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MBB Bo 105[edit]

Hello - with this edit to the MBB Bo 105 article, with the edit summary "update operators list and affixed references WP:WPNOTRS", you removed a large number of reliable sources - i.e. the Flight International World Airforces directory, which is probably one of the MOST reliable sources out there for current air force inventories with a bunch of non-reliable sources such as, and other forums. Please be more careful.Nigel Ish (talk) 10:00, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Your claim that Flight International is one of the "Most reliable sources" is based solely on your opinion. How can I verify this? I would have to buy a subscription, they don't carry this magazine at my library WP:Reliable sources/Cost. Should I just hope you made a "good faith edit "? Maybe you misread part of it. I have read similar articles in Aviation Week & Space Technology and unfortunately they (Aviation Magazines) sometimes recycle their "current military operators" lists from the previous year. (So they may not be as up to date). The sources I provided allows the reader to physically see on-line what is being represented in this article. Clearly this Bo105 sports the title of Canadian Coast Guard Fisheries and Oceans Canada on the side on the it's fuselage. Other sources I used like this this is very specific to the operator, registration number. and last year sold. I realize that some sources, can't relay if the fleets are current. I don't mean to impugn on your work, and I'm sure your very good at what you do here. I apologizes for trampling over you work, and will add my references as a secondary source. RegardsFOX 52 (talk) 19:16, 19 December 2012 (UTC)

Blogs and photographs[edit]

I appreciate it is done in good faith but please stop using blogs and photographs as references neither are reliable sources, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 12:06, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

I must agree; blogs are absolutely unacceptable as sources as they are self-published and have no editorial oversight - thus they have absolutely not guarentee of being correct, and have a reputation for being inaccurate. I would recommend reading over WP:V. Kyteto (talk) 13:16, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
Just for information I have raised it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Aircraft#Images as a source for some opinions/help on the matter, you are welcome to comment, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 11:32, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

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For the cake! Glad my additions were helpful! - Ahunt (talk) 14:28, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

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Eurocopter EC145[edit]

Please, before revert again use the talk. I don't think is useful revert any unreferenced statement and a photo isn't a RO. Please read WP:3RR too. Assianir (talk) 18:20, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

Citing something off Wikipedia is not allowed, per WP:CIRCULAR, and I may challenge it at any time WP:PROVEIT FOX 52 (talk) 19:54, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

a fact is a fact and the photograph it is not a RO or WP:CIRCULAR but a primary source. I tried to explain why the content in question shouldn't require a cited source. Could you do not summarily remove from the page everything which appears to be unsourced? if i'm not enough persuasive maybe we can use WP:3 Assianir (talk) 23:11, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

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image cleanup[edit]

Heya FOX, I saw your edit to 160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment (Airborne) and I was wondering if you do requests for converting images to svg format.. because I know of a few military emblems I've been wondering about. Anywho, Cheers! — -dainomite   03:22, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I'm just starting to dive into it a little bit, so go ahead and send over you've got. - I'll see what I can do FOX 52 (talk) 04:08, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
Oh awesome! I wish I knew how to do it, I'm not sure what makes things easier or more difficult for converting the images. These have always been on my "to-do" list for if I ever figured it out though.
Thanks a ton, I appreciate it! No rush of course. If there's anything I can help you out with please don't hesitate to ask. Regards, — -dainomite   04:35, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Not a problem they look pretty straight forward FOX 52 (talk) 04:59, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you![edit]

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Well Done !!!! Perumalism Chat 19:31, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Thank you![edit]

You do beautiful graphic work! Do you take requests?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:37, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

No problem, if you have any more request you can either noted here, or for a faster response try the Graphics Lab - Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 12:36, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
They're Scouting emblems in need of cleanup. The GL normally doesn't like to take them because they are thought to be akin to logos. Really it's better to have a nice version of the badge than a crude one. Might you be willing? Thanks for the fast reply!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:43, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Ok can you put a link to it here? FOX 52 (talk) 19:01, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
Great, thank you! Uh, the panel under the tailfeathers has now turned the deeper gold, tho'. No rush, when you get a chance.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:50, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
Perfect, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:55, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for Japan, it's perfect!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 05:14, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Really really really really really really perfect, and I mean it this time!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:30, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for Morocco, it's perfect!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:36, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for Central African Republic, it's perfect!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:39, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for Peru, it's perfect, and must have been way harder because of the weird shading!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:01, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for Congo, it's perfect!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:30, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for Greek Orthodox, it's perfect!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 10:10, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for Jamboree 1971, it's perfect!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:02, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for Tuvalu, it's perfect!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 01:02, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for Tonga, it's perfect!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:13, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to have pass on that one, my apologies I have a few other things on right now - Am sure one of the guys from the Graphics Lab can knock it out for you - Regards FOX 52 (talk) 06:23, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Okay, thank you again so much for your help on the others, you do such beautiful work! I have included you in our Recognitions section, and you've helped out so much!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 06:43, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
Thank you so much for having a look at these!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 21:56, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
OK I'll see what I can do FOX 52 (talk) 14:53, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
I appreciate it!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 22:23, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Fox[edit]

  • There may be compatibility problems between the Wikipedia / Media rendering engine and Inkscape:
  • Select everything (Ctrl-A) and choose the Path>Object to Path command.
  • Select everything (Ctrl-A) and choose the Path>Stroke to Path command.
  • In the File>Save As.. dialog look for the drop-down menu just above the Save button and save as a Plain SVG.
This is what I did ---- Face-smile.svg Perumalism Chat 05:29, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
OK got it Thanks very much - FOX 52 (talk) 15:18, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Updating images[edit]

Thanks for the image work. When replacing a non-free image, would you tag the old file page using {{Di-orphaned fair use}} so it doesn't have to get tagged as unused. The easy way to do this is to use:

{{subst:or-fu-re|xxx}}. replacing xxx with the new file name. --  Gadget850 talk 18:26, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Why did you undo an edit?[edit]

Why did you undo an edit I made to the List of Mil Mi-8/17 operators article? It was factually correct. An explanation would be appreciated. Dreddmoto (talk) 12:15, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

An explanation was given in the edit summary - Adding or changing content should be verified by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources. If you do not cite a change, I may challenge it per WP:PROVEIT - cheers FOX 52 (talk) 12:53, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Does wikipedia itself count as a reliable source? Dreddmoto (talk) 22:19, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

Unfortunately no you cannot use Wikipedia - see: WP:CIRCULAR for more help - FOX 52 (talk) 22:50, 14 October 2013 (UTC)

The content of the edit is easily verified.

First, the Iran section lists an Islamic Republican Army as an Mil Mi-8/17 operator. I simply modified this to the name that is generally known and accepted, "Islamic Republic of Iran Army". There is nothing questionable or controversial about that. Even wikipedia's own article about Iran's army, clearly gives "Islamic Republic of Iran Army" as the name of that particular, armed force. Here I do not see anything wrong with making an edit to show that. Secondly, the only other part of my edit was to add the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy as an Mil Mi-8/17 operator. This is true and hardly a secret. Even wikipedia's own article about the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy, mentions this, here If you look at the section of it titled Islamic Republic of Iran Navy Aviation, you can see that it includes Mil Mi-17. If you look at the section of it titled Procurement of naval equipment, it has a paragraph that starts with During 2000 Iranian Naval Aviation significantly improved its capability by taking delivery from Russia, of a number of Mi-8 AMT (Mi-171) transport/attack helicopters. It is a fact that Iran's navy is also an operator Mi-17s.

If you did not know these things, that's okay. You can just ask about them. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort so, different people each contribute to it and work together on articles. If you did not know whether my edit was factually correct, you could just have asked. I would be willing to answer such a query. I have no problem doing so. Is all this enough now, to accept the edit? --Dreddmoto (talk) 13:53, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Again you cannot use Wikipedia as a source - please read WP:CIRCULAR. Also just because you tell me something is true, doesn't make it so. - We call that Original Research which is not a source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources - FOX 52 (talk) 03:44, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

It's not just because I say so, it's because you can see it for yourself, if you look. If I find other sources, where exactly should I post them? In the edit summary? In the article? --Dreddmoto (talk) 10:09, 16 October 2013 (UTC)


Hi, thanks a lot for the swift help with the FSP logo, it really looks great. --Soman (talk) 02:18, 28 October 2013 (UTC)


It seems when you reduced it to a smaller size, the left side of the image seems to be out of place, as of there is a purple blurry line (in which you will notice when you look at the article), in which I can't see if that is eligible to be fixed manually. Could you make the image a little bigger, like a 200px, so it could get rid of the line? Blurred Lines 14:28, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Ok I'll re-size it FOX 52 (talk) 18:30, 5 December 2013 (UTC)


Found the logo in far better resolution on the official Facebook page of the Tallinn Airport

Also, the neck of the current svg-version is obviously too long. Could you please remake the logo using the given image above? Anyway, thanks for the work. (talk) 06:26, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done - FOX 52 (talk) 17:03, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Bell 212[edit]

I know from my sources that the Serbian police uses Bell 212 helicopter it even says so in the Serbian police wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Weljash (talkcontribs) 22:05, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Then cite your sources as per WP:V. - Ahunt (talk) 22:29, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

A beer for you![edit]

Export hell seidel steiner.png Thank you for the work you did on the Inchdrewer Castle floor plans! I don't know how I stumbled across the Graphics Lab but I'm sure I'll be using it again at some point as the assistance given has been brilliant! SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:19, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

Thank you#2![edit]

Azerbaijan is great! It may be my browser, but does the emblem seem slightly left-of-center in the ring?--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:49, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

I'll have a look and adjust accordingly - FOX 52 (talk) 04:51, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
OK you were right, it needed a kick to the right - sorry for the slip up - FOX 52 (talk) 04:57, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
Thanks and no problem! You're making these so much better! Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:59, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

a favor if you can[edit]

If/when you have time, can you merge the two images at Fédération du Scoutisme Tchadien into a single graphic? Thanks for looking!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:17, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Yeah in a SVG? - FOX 52 (talk) 03:35, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Please! Thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 03:58, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
Wow! Both are great! Purple is what I had in mind! Thank you so much!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 04:51, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
It looks like the Jack Bauer font from 24. ;) I say it looks just as nice without it, and most emblems don't have text.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:44, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
Fantastic, thank you so much! Forgot to tell you at the time...--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 09:54, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

3 PDF Media Kits - See the Graphics Lab[edit]

I have submitted three PDF Media Kits (for a total of two companies) (Two Here and One Here) into the Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop page. Both these sections refer to Media Kits that are in a PDF format and an alphabetized list of stations featured in the corresponding Media Kits.

The Bottom-Line is that I wish for the logos for the TV Stations covered by those Media Kits to be Vectorized.
Whenever you Vectorize a Station Logo, please leave me a message on my (talk) page.

DizzyMosquitoRadio99 (talk) 04:20, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I have no idea why you are telling me this? - FOX 52 (talk) 04:46, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm telling you this, because you appear to be very good at Vectorizing things (I deduced this by skimming through the Graphics Lab page and seeing a lot of requests that you'd granted to Vecorize things). I had the hopes of you Vectorizing the logos for some of the TV Stations listed. I recollect you telling me in the past that you could not Vectorize some of the other TV Station logos I wished to have Vectorized, because you'd need a PDF or some sort of Adobe Photoshop file to work with. Bearing that advice in mind, I sought out some Media Kits that are in a PDF format. The Bottom-Line is that the motive of that earlier message today was to request that you Vectorize some logos for some of those TV Stations I've listed in those mentioned request entries. DizzyMosquitoRadio99 (talk) 07:05, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

I apologize, it appears that Orionisttalk was the editor who advised me here that "As for the other logo requests above, I searched the different stations' websites and couldn't find any vector resource of the logos in PDF or Eps files, without which it's better to leave them as is…" (not you). I will request that the other editor Vectorize the logos, if that is more of a specialty of that other editor. DizzyMosquitoRadio99 (talk) 07:15, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Not a problem - keep mind because most logos are not free, a substitute may not be aloud if the resolution on the original is sufficient. -FOX 52 (talk) 07:26, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
Yes, and I have mentioned multiple examples logos where I feel that the currently-uploaded logo is of sufficient resolution. Some such examples where I feel that the logo featured in the PDF-formatted Media Kit is of a lower clarity than the logo already being featured are as follows: WISH-TV, WNAC-DT2, WAPT, WDSU, WISN-TV, WMTW, WPBF, WTAE-TV. Such examples where I feel that the logo featured in the PDF-formatted Media Kit is an outdated logo are as follows: WIVB-TV, WLFI-TV, WLUK-TV, WNLO, WOTV, WPMT, KETV, KITV, WBAL (AM). For most of the stations featured in both of those lists, I submitted "Upload Requests" here of the Highest-Quality copies of the most recent versions of the station logos, to be uploaded as PNG Image files with Transparent Background. Some of those logos, I just left alone and am allowing the currently-uploaded logo to remain (such as with WNAC-DT2 and WMTW). Correct, such a method is perfectly and legitimately acceptable for stations where no decent-quality PDF version of their logo exists (and/or where permission and/or copyright concerns apply). DizzyMosquitoRadio99 (talk) 17:45, 23 March 2014 (UTC)

Crimea recognition map[edit]

i updated your map as per request on Graphics_Lab please check for errors. thank you.--DLommes (talk) 20:57, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

looks fine to me - FOX 52 (talk) 02:14, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

Sources for PLAAF low visibility roundel[edit]

Hi FOX 52, the actual photo of Xian H-6 bombers with PLAAF low visibility roundel can be seen from here: [1] [2] [3] [4] [5]. --Ericmetro (talk) 07:32, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok that'll work, in the future it's a good idea to include a image source - FOX 52 (talk) 14:36, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

I got the message[edit]

Hey FOX 52, I've seen the image, it's good I see you have placed (L to R) maroon, black and green. The text isn't similar to the one on the album cover, so it could be possible to make it similar. ///EuroCarGT 20:16, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, that's just a sample - I basically took a letter from MS WordArt, pasted it to inscape and sliced it with thin boxes - just need to know what front that is (I'm not sure of the name) - Any Ideas? - FOX 52 (talk) 23:02, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Well it's line art, probably not a font. A best bet is to find a regular font similar to it then slicing it in Inkscape. I'll see what fonts could be used. ///EuroCarGT 23:17, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Awesome - let me know FOX 52 (talk) 23:21, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Well font detection programs didn't work, it detects each line as an I or L. Guess it's really line art. Best, ///EuroCarGT 00:42, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
Ugghhh OK I'm checking some of my usual sources, I'll see if anything turns up - FOX 52 (talk) 02:29, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Central Reserve Police Force emblem.svg[edit]

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Bell AH-1 SuperCobra[edit]

Please see 15 Iran at Dreddmoto (talk) 14:14, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

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A barnstar for you![edit]

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Italian HH-3F phase out[edit]

Sorry for that. I now added sources from ITAF supporting that HH-3Fs have been retired from Italian service. Hoping it will be ok now. Regards. --EH101 (talk) 13:56, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Flying ace[edit]

No objection to the Rickenbacker picture in itself - just that if every illustration in a long article had to be "the most notable" we'd replace every picture in the WWI section of the article with one of Richthofen - and make sure that each picture was one of his most famous portrait at that! A bit of variety, and the odd unexpected (and for that very reason more interesting) picture never hurts. Still, it's also nice to "cycle" illustrations a bit - so I won't argue or edit war over it. Hang in there. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 22:25, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Why undo Bell H-13 Sioux edits?[edit]

Why did you undo the latest edit to that article? 3 Commando Brigade Air Squadron of the Royal Marines, was an operator of the type. You can see for yourself at the 3 Commando Brigade Air Squadron article Dreddmoto (talk) 19:02, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

The word an should be used before all vowel sounds (a, e, i, o, u) - And as for 3 Commando Brigade Air Squadron you need to provided a reliable source, per WP:PROVEIT - unfortunately you can not use Wikipedia as a source; see WP:CIRCULAR for more information - FOX 52 (talk) 19:48, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. It would have been helpful if you had mentioned that at the time of your edit. --Dreddmoto (talk) 15:42, 7 December 2014 (UTC)

hence my edit summary "grammar fix" - FOX 52 (talk) 17:14, 7 December 2014 (UTC)


Hey mate, I saw your edit at I-League and honestly I am still very confused? I just simply just want to update the logo to include the sponsorship, I've never had a problem before. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 05:17, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

not a problem this was a graphics lab request from Perumalism, I didn't see the point in taking out the vectored, for a more grainier logo. - cheers FOX 52 (talk) 06:54, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
Oh, I guess that makes sense. I simply just copied from the official All India Football Federation page. Cheers. --ArsenalFan700 (talk) 12:42, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

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McDonnell Douglas MD 500 Defender[edit]

>15:18, 22 January 2015‎ FOX 52 (talk | contribs)‎ . . (14,834 bytes) (-210)‎ . . (under variants)

What do you mean? (talk) 13:10, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Version information should be placed Operational history or Variant section, operators list is just for notable users - per WP:AIRCRAFT-OPERATORS FOX 52 (talk) 06:19, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

What you have claimed was not written in WP:AIRCRAFT-OPERATORS. Anyway, I don't think my edit[6] was useless because many forces which listed there operate unarmed or civil MD500, not the Defender. Not to confuse the readers, necessary information should be noted there. Some other major aircraft articles such like McDonnell_Douglas_F-15_Eagle#Operators and List_of_Boeing_747_operators also place more informations on the Operators section but there are no problem. (talk) 12:43, 26 January 2015 (UTC)

No that's exactly what it says "a collection of links to airlines or individual air force squadrons that are using the type". We're not here to inundate the reader to much technical information, that's why we apply specific information to specific sections. - FOX 52 (talk) 20:55, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

Tajik Air Force Roundel[edit]

Hey Fox52, There's a thread on the Aircraft Resource Center about the roundel of Tajikistan's Air Force:

In that thread, Linden Hill's research says Tajikistan still uses the old Soviet-style red star, and sometimes their air force crest (which I think you can see in the blue and white Mi-8 in the first photo in that thread), and Tajikistan's flag - which you can see there on an AN-2 and a rather large example on another of their Mi-8s. Not sure if any of that merits a change in the actual article, but as you can see it looks like it's definitely not a green star or was ever a green star. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Beingthehero (talkcontribs) 19:29, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

That's a start in the right direction, now if we can get conclusive evidence aside from the forum (they fall under unreliable sources) we’d be in good shape ♦ Thanks FOX 52 (talk) 21:31, 29 January 2015 (UTC)

Mongolian Air Force[edit]

Hello, why you editing Mongolian Air Force ? Flightglobal's information is wrong. First they are not listed Mi-24 ( ), second you have to read military balance and other internet sources. Buuhai 06:06, 07 February 2015 (UTC)

Problem is photo-blog(s) are not a reliable source per - WP:SPS and if Mongolia had Mi-24's are they still current? Flightglobal is a verified news source and is current to 2015, military balance is 3 years old (2012). Lasty over use of images is not permitted - WP:IMAGEMOS - FOX 52 (talk) 06:44, 7 February 2015 (UTC)

• Yes Mongolia is still using Mi-24 helicopters, - On 19th of January (2015) Mongolian Minister of Defense met with 337th airborne unit. First photo is Mongolian Mi-24. - Look at those helicopter numbers. - Mongolia had 11 Mi-24s. BTW read the Flightglobal 2011 World Air Forces 2011/2012. There wrote that Mongolia had 25 Mi-24 and 25 Mi-8. Buuhai 07:58, 07 February 2015 (UTC)

Your ministry of defense page showing a picture of a Mi-24 does not provide written proof to their current use. A photo alone is consider “original research” therefore cannot be used. - states partial sourcing which includes “Wikipedia” and that not allowed per WP:CIRCULAR, and the has no sources of any kind, and refers to the “Mongolian Army” but the article in question is the Mongolian Air Force. Having said that we will leave it in for now per Flightglobal World Air Forces 2011/2012 - FOX 52 (talk) 20:10, 10 February 2015 (UTC)


Re: List of Vietnam War flying aces - Why did you remove Ritchie from the list? - theWOLFchild 05:34, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

Must have been an accident - restored now, thanks for the heads up FOX 52 (talk) 07:01, 20 February 2015 (UTC)

IAC equipment template[edit]

Given that there's been a little to-and-fro on this template, I've opened a topic on the relevant talk page. Would be delighted to get your input - to better coordinate efforts. Guliolopez (talk) 13:43, 25 February 2015 (UTC)

Bell 222[edit]

Hi, I changed the position of the File:Bell 222 as the image covers the specification table, at least on my monitor. Chesipiero (talk) 16:39, 12 March 2015 (UTC)

you managed to place it under the "See also" section, which should remain clear of images - the orthographical image is better suited for the "Specifications" section cheers FOX 52 (talk) 17:17, 12 March 2015 (UTC)


Gday - re my revert on the RAAF article. My edit summary doesn't make sense I realise, sorry I misunderstood your edit. I still don't agree with your reversion of IP 101's edit but I now understand your second edit summary "remove speculative wording per WP:CBALL". Apologies. I'll explain myself re the revert on the talk page ASAP. Anotherclown (talk) 14:07, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

not a problem - FOX 52 (talk) 19:31, 19 March 2015 (UTC)

bell 412,212,206[edit]

these bell avilabla in thai police aviation divition so you can read thai language สำนักงานตำรวจแห่งชาติ at these bell so it's real because when i have seen these bell with my eye already and that link is wedsite of thai police and show what they have and it's reliable source this!!! is real link of thai aviation divition you can check it if you cannot read thai language go lean now because thai word is beside of these bell okeyyy

that's the source you should have used in the first place - FOX 52 (talk) 18:54, 17 April 2015 (UTC)

Czech Air Force[edit]

Hi, your revert of Yak-40 retirement and replacement is IMHO inadequate, since it is an important information. Moreover, similar information are common there. For example, in Royal Air Force article: "Tornado GR4 is due to retire in March 31, 2019" or "All C-130s will be withdrawn by 2022" or "This is a potential candidate to fulfil a requirement for an ISTAR UAV to enter service after 2015".--Mossback (talk) 21:35, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

And those two examples are skating the line of speculation as well, and that doesn't mean go ahead and do it cause you see it somewhere else on Wikipedia. More specifically tables should be void of such statements, just informational notes. - FOX 52 (talk) 22:03, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
Well, it was in the article and not in the table after your first revert (yes, it was my fault to include this information in the table for the first time). The most important thing is that the date of retirement based on actual service life is not a speculation at all. Finally, my RAF example is just an example, not an inspiration for me.--Mossback (talk) 22:15, 22 April 2015 (UTC)

A cupcake for you![edit]

Choco-Nut Bake with Meringue Top cropped.jpg Thank you for your edits! CookieMonster755 (talk) 03:28, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
Much Appreciated – Thanks FOX 52 (talk) 03:30, 24 April 2015 (UTC)

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Regarding World Airforces 2015 / Romanian air force[edit]

I have stated this thing again. World airforces 2015 is not complete.For example Alenia C-27J 6 (1 on order) . The last one has been recieved at the beginning of the year (which is referenced in the equipment of the romanian armed forces).UAV RQ-7 Shadow , none of the new ones are there(which have been referenced even in this article before),more specifically Northrop Grumman RQ-4 Global Hawk and ScanEagle . The MIM-23 Hawk is not mentioned at all even though it is mentioned on the government website..and most of the AA as well while ZSU-57-2 has been added , a vehicle that has not been used by romania since the 1990's . IAR 316 is not even added at all. The radars are also not mentioned at all. Romdwolf (talk) 17:04, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

because you say a source is not complete doesn't make it so - per original research - You need your provide reliable source(s) for all you entries regarding and UAV's and radars, and I may challenge any non-sourced content WP:PROVEIT - FOX 52 (talk) 20:32, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

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Moldovan Air Force[edit]

The Transnistrian armed forces is not part of the moldovan air force and thus their aircraft do not belong there.

Regarding the other things i added. This is the article i used to source it : and this is the video from moldova army's official youtube. one of the pilots clearly stating an-2 being part of the military(although not in english) The videos also show the an-2 being operational. I'm not exactly sure how the youtube sourcing works if you can use youtube to reference things at all . The Mil Mi-2 is seen operational and since it was listed as a military aircraft last year I don't see why it wouldn't see why it would by any other. Regarding the other aicraft in the article (including the sting aircrafts) no other information is being shared about them neither in the article nor in the clip and that's why I didn't even add them.

Again, I'm not sure how youtube referencing works so I'm going to leave it up to you.Romdwolf (talk) 16:51, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Royal Australian Air Force[edit]

Hi, You restored the eye candy that I had deleted from the list of current inventory at Royal Australian Air Force. I thought the WikiProject discussion had made it clear that this stuff was not wanted. May I ask why you restored it? — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 20:26, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Yeah I was on board with keeping images out of tables, not out of articles - few images pertaining to types used by an Air Force I think should be provided - FOX 52 (talk) 20:46, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
The rest of the article already has a few images, I thought there were too many in the list section to simply move in with them. As I see it, a list is a list whether it is a dedicated page or just a section in another article. Do we need to get this clarified? — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 07:15, 16 July 2015 (UTC)

Usage of World Air Forces 2015 from Flight Global[edit]

Hi, I noticed that you have been going around almost every air force article in the region, massively editing the aircraft listing, and all basing too much on Flight Global's WAF 2015. Why you rely too much on a single source without even considering the sources previously indicated before you made those edits? You did it with the Philippine Air Force article, and you just did the same with the Royal Malaysian Air Force article too. Instead of helping, I think you are actually making more issues with other contributors who are trying hard to keep those articles as accurate as possible but you just overwritten with your own edits. Phichanad (talk) 05:32, 31 July 2015 (UTC)

OK @Phichanad: let’s review one of your accurate entries in the PAF article - SIAI-Marchetti S.211 In Service: 5 there are two sources, one from World Air Forces 2014 which show they have five, and the other source states near the bottom “The PAF still has six of the S-211 jet trainers …” So an editor went with FG? In the Notes section it says: “Locally upgraded to AS-211 "Warrior" standard to do air-to-ground missions. 7 more airframes stored, waiting for reactivation”, and the source provided, makes no mention of what’s stated. Then adding to the confusion this source quotes "So far, we have three (S-211) operational and we are requesting..." - As you can see they're some discrepancies just in that one alone - FOX 52 (talk) 19:59, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Ok, I got your point. Obviously the article's sources are not updated, although you have been successful in pointing that to us. We'll be doing the corrections one at a time, as I said before, publicly open sources are not that plentiful for PAF asset numbers. If you noticed, the S-211 numbers were updated yesterday. Its now down to 3, straight from the horse's mouth. So WAF2015 has one point for that, but that didn't mean WAF2015 is also correct. It wasn't written there what variant of S.211 are in PAF service, and it was not even considered as a combat aircraft when the S.211 (AS.211) are now more considered as combatants that trainers since the exit of the F-5A/B. But our point is, do not just overwrite everything by editing based on a single source, without considering other sources that are are probably more accurate that what you use. I am not saying WAF2015 is 100% inaccurate, but it is also not 100% accurate. Take time to look at other sources to know what I mean. Thanks. Phichanad (talk) 02:19, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
@Phichanad: And that is not a problem, just if you'd please try to adapt your source(s) and changes to the sub-headed table (with holding image) as we are trying to unify all the tables under one model. I'd appreciated greatly -Maraming salamat FOX 52 (talk) 04:48, 1 August 2015 (UTC)

Algerian Air Force[edit]

Please avoid biting the newbies if possible. We're trying to retain them, not force them out. If someone has just come onboard, please do not threaten them immediately with being blocked from editing for not conforming with the IMAGEMOS. Buckshot06 (talk) 09:02, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Mess in my lap[edit]

You left a beer open and now it's all over me. DMacks (talk) 20:33, 12 August 2015 (UTC)


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For excellent work on the RMAF article. LavaBaron (talk) 00:39, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Thank you, much appreciated - FOX 52 (talk) 01:22, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

Kenya Army Mi-28 Havoc[edit]

You claimed the source didn't list them as being in service HOWEVER, if you had taken time to read the source, you would note the following:"Flight International’s World Air Forces 2013 also lists 16 Mi-28s ordered by Kenya, with 5 DELIVERED".I suggest int the future you read a source rather then simply adding or subtracting from an topic you clearly lack knowledge in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nurse2Be (talkcontribs) 06:16, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Note that the helicopters in question have disappeared from the 2014 version of World Air Forces, which suggests that the 2013 entry was incorrect.Nigel Ish (talk) 10:05, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
As well in the 2015 WAF report, no Mi-28's for Kenya, so more than likely a incorrect entry - FOX 52 (talk) 13:55, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Vietnam People's Airforce[edit]

Dear FOX 52. Regarding the Vietnam People's Air force’s aircraft inventory, my friends who working in Vietname Air force Command Center have been confirmed that we have 36 Sukhoi MK2V and 12 Sukhoi SK/UBK. I added 2 foreign websites and 1 Vietnamese website to confirm this information. Best regards! (talk) 19:55, 23 September 2015 (UTC+9)

Cold War Air Museum Operator in Texas, USA[edit]

FOX 52, You have removed, at least twice, a reference to the Cold War Air Museum operating two Mi24s in Texas, USA. Your 07Mar2013 removal appeared to be a part of a bulk "Operator" section reorganization to your referenced liking. Your 15Jul2014 removal is much more targeted in that you completely removed our provided reference/subsection and commented: (remove promotional webpage link). Two questions: (1) what is your definition or "promotion" versus "citation" and (2) why would not you simply remove the questionable or controversial "promotional webpage link" rather than deleting the entire subsection? I login to Wiki infrequently so it may be a while before I respond to your answers. Looks like you put a great deal of effort into overseeing your chosen topics, thanks for your time.Supporter of truth and logic (talk) 23:07, 15 December 2015 (UTC)

My graphics lab request[edit]

Could we leave it open for now? I actually have a bunch more that need done if you'd be willing or another volunteer is available. Abyssal (talk) 04:15, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

@Abyssal: It would be best to close this one, as it may lead to confusion on whether it's filled or not - And when your ready throw in a new request (from experience, it usually ends up taking longer for editor(s) to add new parts to a current request) - Cheers
OK Abyssal (talk) 04:59, 11 January 2016 (UTC)

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Military aircraft insignia[edit]

Hi Fox, may I please ask why have you reverted my edition at Military aircraft insignia if it's properly sourced (and common knowledge)? Just in case, here you have it in English too, quoting the original source: Best regards, --MaeseLeon (talk) 04:41, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

@MaeseLeon: We've seen this report before but there nothing to support its reliability as true source. Furthermore there are plenty of images from 2015, that contradict this claim from 2013. - [7] [8] [9] [10] [11] [12] - Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 05:16, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes, they haven't still repainted all of them. Oh well, i guess we'll have to wait until they do to write down here what is known right now in Russia and in every air force in the world, which is exactly as reported in those articles, not to enter an edition war. I actually don't mind, honestly. Have a nice day. MaeseLeon (talk) 05:28, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

rv in List of Mil Mi-8/17 operators[edit]

(diff) What was wrong in the edit you reverted? Please use edit summaries when reverting edits. --Z 07:26, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

@ZxxZxxZ: Please provide a reliable source for your entry, without one it may be challenged and removed per WP:PROVEIT - Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 07:33, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

The H225M caracal for Kuwait air force[edit]

it was confirmed that kuwait signed a 2.5 billion dollar deal with france for (24 armed H225M caracal / and 120 renault shepra) the deal was confirmed from both Kuwait and France,, i can give you sources IHardned (talk) 19:27, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

it be should close to near-term production and confirmed WP:AIRCRAFT-OPERATORS - And always supply a reliable source when adding new content - FOX 52 (talk) 22:59, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

sources of kuwaiti air force H225M caracal[edit]

this is the link with pic of kuwait and france signing of the H225M and the renault sherpa — Preceding unsigned comment added by IHardned (talkcontribs) 15:36, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

so after i send you the official links and picture of the Kuwaiti signing the H225M heli's should i add them ?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by IHardned (talkcontribs) 08:13, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done - FOX 52 (talk) 02:59, 12 February 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for archiving Graphics Lab[edit]

Hi, thanks for your contributions and archiving old/stale/resolved requests on the Illustration Workshop. I've created January 2016 and February 2016 archive pages and moved the requests that came in during those months from the December 2015 archive page to the corresponding archive pages. Cheers, Mliu92 (talk) 17:32, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Most welcome, thanks for your help there as well - FOX 52 (talk) 17:42, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Prove your claims FOX 52[edit]

Prove your claim that air force world is a blog or self published website Also prove that air force technology is a superior or more reliable source on F-7 jets than air force world. I might soon take this matter up with the CEO of wikipedia, seems some 'admin editors' have given themselves the sole right to post content and deliberately discredit superior edits stating flimsy excuses. Someone's 'job' might soon be on the line. Your two proofs awaited. Sapong (talk) 20:00, 21 March 2016 (UTC)

OK first off we don't have CEO's here at Wikipedia nor do we have paid positions like a job, it's all volunteer. Now if you had read the Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources, and Wikipedia:Citing sources (which I posted on your talk page twice) you might have a better understanding of proper sources to use. A source like "" which you used is a dead give away that BlogSpot in the address is blog - Thank you FOX 52 (talk) 22:13, 22 March 2016 (UTC)

"Double V campaign" emblem[edit]

Hey FOX 52, I was checking on my Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop query and discovered you had swepted it into the March archive without explanation. What happened? Mitchumch (talk) 17:02, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

sorry about that, accidentally got grouped in with the other two "resolved" requests - I've reinstated your request - Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 02:20, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
No problem. Thanks. Mitchumch (talk) 05:37, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

A kitten for you![edit]

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Thanks for the Missile Wing images!

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"Double V campaign" emblem[edit]

My "Double V campaign" emblem" post to Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop was marked as stale and archived on 22:45, 16 May 2016. How do I get this image produced? Mitchumch (talk) 15:00, 17 May 2016 (UTC)

@Mitchumch: Unfortunately your request is quite intricate, and at this point you'll have to wait for an editor to check the archives, and see if it gets pickup up then. - Apologies FOX 52 (talk) 19:27, 17 May 2016 (UTC)



Why did you remove the SU-24's from the current inventory list of IRIAF article?

Also, IRIAF does not have SU-27's. None have been seen in IRIAF markings. If IRIAF had SU-27 they would certainly have been in operational service and spotted in pictures. — Preceding unsigned comment added by PersianFire (talkcontribs) 14:59, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

Must have been a typo, its fixed - FOX 52 (talk) 16:45, 6 June 2016 (UTC)

SVG help[edit]

FOX 52, I know you do a lot of SVG work and I need your help! I'm in the learning phases and I'm having issues with File:FHSU Tigers logo.svg. I need to add a white background behind the actual tiger itself (much like the one at I have Inkscape, and I can't seem to figure this out. If you would be willing to guide me through it, I'd appreciate it! If I can't seem to get it, would you mind doing it? Thanks, 🎓 Corkythehornetfan 🎓 06:50, 11 June 2016 (UTC)

@Corkythehornetfan: - You'll need to trace the area you want in white (white fill only, no stroke), and then lower that layer to the bottom. Here a inkscape tutorial on layers that should help. Any problems drop me line - Cheers FOX 52 (talk) 17:42, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
FOX 52: Thanks for the link! For right now, if you don't mind, would you fix this? I'll practice with it, but right now I'd prefer an expert fix this file... Also, the code might need cleaned up, too... not sure why gradient is in there when there isn't any. Lol Thanks, Corkythehornetfan 🎓 05:30, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
Yes check.svg Done- @Corkythehornetfan: FOX 52 (talk) 05:59, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

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