User talk:Aron Manning

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 Aron M contrib📤 🍂 talk 01:35, 14 May 2019

May 2019

Your recent editing history at Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Andrewgprout (talk) 05:18, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

4 reverts in 3 days is not a 3RR violation. Andrewgprout (talk · contribs) made a mistake choosing the wrong template. He has been warned with the proper Template:Uw-ew at his talk page. —Aron M🍂 (🛄📤)   15:44, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

To editor Andrewgprout: It takes two to tango. Thank you for inviting me to the dance, it's always pleasure to follow an "experienced" dancer. —Aron M🍂 (🛄📤)   05:53, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

As a reminder, here's an album of your previous dances:

• User_talk:Andrewgprout#November_2014
• User_talk:Andrewgprout#October_2016
• User_talk:Andrewgprout#November_2016
• User_talk:Andrewgprout#November_2016_2
• User_talk:Andrewgprout#Recent_disruptive_editing_on_Rhinelander–Oneida_County_Airport
• User_talk:Andrewgprout#Disruptive_edits_Phnom_Penh_International_Airport
• User_talk:Andrewgprout#Groundings

Tonight's dance: WP:ANI#Marc Lacoste, Andrewgprout: multiple repeated reverts that resulted in page protection, then continued on related page.

—Aron M🍂 (🛄📤)   05:53, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Marc Lacoste (talk) 16:35, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Block

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 24 hours for edit warring. You can't keep reverting against multiple editors, even if you don't technically violate 3RR. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.

El_C 18:40, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

To editor El C:

This user is asking that his block be reviewed:

Aron Manning (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Marc made mistakes in filing the EW report. Diff 1 was not a revert, but my actual contribution, which Andrew and Marc warred together. The remaining 4 reverts happened in 3 days, that's standard content dispute. It took 2 reverts, before Andrew followed policy, and replied on the talk page. Marc himself made 8 reverts to 2 editors in the last week, 3 of which in one day, and engaged in 3 "edit wars". The ANI report also lists the diff that shows Andrew hounded my edit. They demonstrated hostilities, a threat, disruptive editing. Please review the AN/I report, which lists 11 reverts in 3 edit wars, opposing 4 of my reverts on the AN/EW report. It is clear they initiated the edit wars in all cases. Thank you.

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. —Aron M🍂 (🛄📤)   20:40, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, but if multiple editors revert you, the thing to do isn't to revert them back multiple times. Even if you don't technically violate 3RR — I'm not gonna allow it to be gamed. El_C 20:48, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

@El C: Although I was very far from breaking the rules, this is not about the technicality of 3RR. Andrew started the edit war by reverting my useful contribution 3 minutes after I edited, on a page that he never edited before. For 3 days he did nothing else, but revert my edits. After his first revert I initiated dispute resolution on the talk page, which he did not reply to for 2 reverts. When he replied, he made a threat. This is a clear case of hounding.

Please reopen the AN/I report, and punish the real perpetrators. The "multiple editors" were Marc and Andrew only. Both of them reverted my edits days before, it seems they are holding a grudge. The fact that Marc supported Andrew in this edit war, which he had nothing to do with, just makes the case worse. Marc had engaged in 3 edit wars in the last week, doing 3 reverts just in 24 hours on one occasion. That's more serious violation than my 4 reverts in 3 days. Marc and Andrew both have been blocked before, and have multiple warnings to refrain from edit warring and disruptive edits. It is clear, they disregard WP policies of WP:CONSENSUS, WP:5P4, WP:BITE, WP:HOUND, WP:!HERE.

Thank you. —Aron M🍂 (🛄📤)   21:19, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

They are not hounding you. Those two are editors in good standing and clearly experts in the field — those articles are almost certainly on their watchlists. And yes, they object as to the manner in which you edit those articles. They are entitled to do so. No, I will not reopen the ANI request, which I admit freely I did not review as it seriously lacked concision. All these walls of texts are too much. Nobody has time to read for all that. Please learn to condense. Anyway, you do not seem to acknowledge what you did wrong, and to me, that's a problem. El_C 21:34, 26 May 2019 (UTC)