User talk:Fram

Under Office action policy, Fram has been banned by the Wikimedia Foundation from editing the English Wikipedia for a period of one year.
Please address any questions to cawikimedia.org.

For the ongoing community discussion about this ban, see WP:FRAM.

For Fram's talk page at meta.wikimedia, click here.

If I have deleted a page you contributed as a copyright violation, but you are also the copyright holder for the original text, you can find more info on how to resolve this at Wikipedia:Donating copyrighted materials#Granting us permission to copy material already online.

Unblocked

I'm assuming you're following the discussion and so knew this was about to happen. I've unblocked, per overwhelming consensus here. I'll remove protection from this page in a minute so you can reply. Don't get too comfortable; there's a non-zero chance the WMF will ignore consensus and reinstate the block. Apologies in advance for my role in what your block log might look like a few days from now. And, of course, I cannot do anything about the desysop (I would if I could). Finally, I do not understand enough about the background of the interaction ban to attempt to rescind that; while it may or may not be valid, I'm not lifting it, and you'd be wise to assume it is still in force until someone conclusively lifts it.

Now is possibly not the right time for this, but I do think you'd be doing yourself, and en.wiki, and me, a favor by dialing back the aggression a couple of notches when dealing with other good faith editors (even Arbs!) with whom you disagree. There's also a non-zero chance that the edits in question will get brought up in a request for sanction at AN, ANI, ArbCom, or somewhere where it actually belongs. No comment, yet, on where I would come down on such a discussion.

I hope this gets resolved in good time. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:50, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

p.s. I guess I had an unnoticed edit conflict with WMFOffice; I'd intended to leave this message at the same time I unblocked. Looks like *they* unblanked your page, which was cool of them. -Floquenbeam (talk) 19:50, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Cool of them? I dunno. I'm not sure if they even noticed that he's unblocked. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 19:57, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Shhhh!!! Don't tell them and it may all blow over! --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:59, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

• Fram, I suppose it's also possible you're "banned but unblocked", whatever that might mean, and whatever it would mean for you if you edit anyway. I'm just enacting a clear consensus to the limits of my userrights and ability; I'm not marketing this as solved. Exhuberant notes on my talk page notwithstanding, I still suspect this is going to end up with you, me, Bish, and possibly other admins (and maybe even crats, though I kind of doubt it) unhappy. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:23, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
  • That is exactly the case. Indeed, if Fram was to edit at this point in time, he would be evading the office ban, likely resulting in the ban being extended. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 20:33, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
    • Hysterical. I'm so glad you're back editing Rob, you add so much love to this place. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:35, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

A (new) barnstar for you!

	The Resilient Barnstar
	Should be obvious enough why you have this... - SchroCat (talk) 19:43, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Welcome back!

Now then, time to get back to your scrupulous checks of a certain main page area. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:45, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Special Barnstar
	Despite your past civility issues, you deserve a barnstar because that’s just the state Wikipedia and the WMF are in now. —pythoncoder (talk | contribs) 05:02, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Request for Arbitration

I've requested arbitration. The details are in the usual place, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Fram

Please don't respond here or there yet. We have to figure out how to let you participate. Maybe email the committee for now. Jehochman ^Talk 05:43, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

ArbCom open letter

Here. Thank you. I don't know if it will help bridge the gap between WMF and enwiki, but it certainly will help bridge the (much smaller) gap between ArbCom and some critical editors (like me). Well thought out, balanced, and clear. Fram (talk) 09:44, 30 June 2019 (UTC)