Talk:Howrah railway station

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This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 18:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Organized article in sections. Needs further work to bring it in line with other articles on stations (jis (talk) 15:36, 2 February 2008 (UTC))

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I think a Start rating is quite harsh here, doesn't this article classify for at least a C, if not a B? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 183.83.51.3 (talk) 11:49, 17 October 2017 (UTC)

Interesting image

Howrah Junction: The Calcutta Terminus of the East Indian Railway, 1912

There's an interesting image on [1] and its *probably* public domain.Djm-leighpark (talk) 22:32, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

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Junction or Terminus

I commuted frequently to Howrah in the 90s. All the platforms were styled like a terminus. If is if a Junctions, which lines cross here? If not, the article name should be changed. Hydman (talk) 19:36, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

@User:Hydman - curiously I agree with you. I always took other to face value that it was officially called Howrah Junction, although I can't see a single bit of evidence or photo to suggest this. All the photos have it as just Howrah. I note that page was originally created as Howrah station in 2005 - there's an edit from 20 August 2014 that moved it to Howrah Junction. It also strikes me as a terminus. Do you know anywhere to cross check the information? Eastern Railway website is currently down. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 21:46, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

So looking into this further there's not a mention of Howrah Junction at all in the ER website. It is just Howrah Station, and there are no pictures on their website suggesting it is a junction. All the timetables just state Howrah. Googling does not help as I suspect a lot of travel website have taken the naming from Wikipedia. The station perhaps used to be a junction in the past but again there is no evidence I can find for this. The user who changed the name, was also involved in a dispute over doing the same at Talk:Asansol Junction railway station, however in that case there are photos to suggest that it is actually names as a junction. I'm tempted if consensus just to rename as you suggest. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 22:01, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

I believe [2] is the official Indian Railways train enquiry system. Enter train 02303 for example (as at time of this post). It shows start point as HOWRAH JN (HWH). Conflicting evidence is available on a claimed India tourism channel, especially at 0.57s [3]. Not quite clear cut. Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 19:56, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Point taken. It's interesting though that Eastern Railways maps and timetables speak of it as just Howrah rather than Howrah Junction. I have never seen a Howrah Junction sign, and the physical station is a terminus. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 20:49, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

In addition Eastern Railways official timetable [4] the station is just called Howrah, despite many other junction stations. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 20:54, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Looking at maps the station is just beyond at junction of the line from Lilua and Bariupara (created 1900?) and perhaps that is where the concept of junction comes from; and perhaps the centre of the centre of the town of Howrah was more to the east of the station. But this WP:ORIGINAL conjecture has no basis in and DB:V source. I also notice [5] dated 1906 ish refers to the station as "Howrah Station" and not "Howrah Junction". But I would image it is a station that upon arrival it might be likely often necessary to get a further train/tram to get where one is going. This 1987 ticket also mentions Howrah Jn : [6]. I feel a Toponymy section is possible ... at some point.Djm-leighpark (talk) 23:30, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

Interesting. The national sources suggest it is Howrah Junction, but the local Eastern Railway say it's not. I plan to try and email Eastern Railway and ask, although that also falls into original research as well! A naming section would be good actually. I shall get round to it as some point if no one else does. - Master Of Ninja (talk) 10:59, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

The Eastern Railway run Rail Museum, Howrah has a exhibition dedicated to the section so their curator might be a good start point. Its also worth checking out what the Wikipedia Junction station says and also List of railway junction stations in India. There is also a little in this book, junction is not mentioned but the confluence of several lines are:[7]. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 14:49, 16 June 2020 (UTC)