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It is difficult to find "significant coverage" to cite. Most content is based on primary sources and insider knowledge of the founder-editor. [[User:Yae4|Yae4]] ([[User talk:Yae4|talk]]) 16:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC) |
It is difficult to find "significant coverage" to cite. Most content is based on primary sources and insider knowledge of the founder-editor. [[User:Yae4|Yae4]] ([[User talk:Yae4|talk]]) 16:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC) |
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*<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting|deletion sorting]] lists for the following topics: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Finance|Finance]], [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Business|Business]], and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Software|Software]]. [[User:Yae4|Yae4]] ([[User talk:Yae4|talk]]) 16:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)</small> |
*<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting|deletion sorting]] lists for the following topics: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Finance|Finance]], [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Business|Business]], and [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Software|Software]]. [[User:Yae4|Yae4]] ([[User talk:Yae4|talk]]) 16:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)</small> |
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* nextinpact.com 2017 citation is <b>biased</b>. It ends, translated, "<font color="green">What I hope for Liberapay is that the project reaches its goal: to allow a better financing of free software, not only software but also art and everything else. I also hope that the public will recognize the huge work that a project like Liberapay represents and support its development more" concludes its co-creator. The next evolutions should be detailed during a conference at the Libre Software Meeting (LSM) in Saint Etienne, France, in early July.</font>" It looks based on an embedded Youtube video, which was <b>self-published</b> by Liberapay. Not very independent. Nextinpact Not yet discussed at [[WP:RSN]]. Cited about 40 times. |
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* linuxfr.org 2016 heading says "<font color="green">Posted by Zatalyz (personal website) on 11/30/16 at 08:32. Edited by 7 contributors. Moderated by ZeroHeure.</font>" It appears to be a <b>user-generated group blog post</b>; therefore Unreliable for wikipedia per [[WP:USERGENERATED]]. Not discussed at [[WP:RSN]]; Cited ~27 times. |
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* [[Numerama]] citation is a summary description in a list of 5 similar platforms summaries. <b>Not significant coverage</b>. Not discussed at [[WP:RSN]]; cited ~70 times. |
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* Opensource citation, which I added in [[Special:Diff/1139491501]], is the <b>one</b> apparently reliable source with significant coverage. |
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{{re|Bensin}} There are many more primary sources, including Libera pay Weblate, About (a couple times). Also a Patreon Support post, self-published about Patreon. A few Liberapay Tweets (mea culpa for adding one). |
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{{re|Alalch_E.}} There was no response to my Notability comment at [[Talk:Liberapay]], and I felt getting uninvolved editor opinions would be good. Yae4, Bensin and Alalch_E. are <b>involved</b> at Liberapay.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Liberapay&action=history] -- [[User:Yae4|Yae4]] ([[User talk:Yae4|talk]]) 18:43, 18 February 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Weak keep'''. There are several sources available that should push this to meet GNG, but I'm not entirely sure about the reliability of some of these sources: [https://web.archive.org/web/20170916020622/https://www.nextinpact.com/news/104027-apres-an-dactivite-liberapay-veut-etre-alternative-libre-pour-dons-recurrents.htm][https://linuxfr.org/news/liberapay-plate-forme-libre-de-dons-recurrents][https://www.numerama.com/tech/736954-utip-liberapay-quelles-sont-les-alternatives-a-la-plateforme-tipeee.html][https://opensource.com/article/18/5/open-patronage-liberapay] <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x[[User:0xDeadbeef|<span style="text-transform:uppercase;color:black">'''Deadbeef'''</span>]]</span>→∞ ([[User talk:0xDeadbeef|talk to me]]) 16:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC) |
*'''Weak keep'''. There are several sources available that should push this to meet GNG, but I'm not entirely sure about the reliability of some of these sources: [https://web.archive.org/web/20170916020622/https://www.nextinpact.com/news/104027-apres-an-dactivite-liberapay-veut-etre-alternative-libre-pour-dons-recurrents.htm][https://linuxfr.org/news/liberapay-plate-forme-libre-de-dons-recurrents][https://www.numerama.com/tech/736954-utip-liberapay-quelles-sont-les-alternatives-a-la-plateforme-tipeee.html][https://opensource.com/article/18/5/open-patronage-liberapay] <span style="font-family:Iosevka,monospace">0x[[User:0xDeadbeef|<span style="text-transform:uppercase;color:black">'''Deadbeef'''</span>]]</span>→∞ ([[User talk:0xDeadbeef|talk to me]]) 16:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' This article has over 100 incoming links from other Wikipedia articles. The 2018 opensource.com article[https://opensource.com/article/18/5/open-patronage-liberapay], along with additional sources, establishes notability. ([[Red_Hat#Opensource.com|opensource.com]] has been publishing for over 13 years, and longer under different names before that.) Primary sources in the article (links to liberapay.com) are used primarily to support statements of which projects and organizations use the platform. --[[User:Bensin|Bensin]] ([[User talk:Bensin|talk]]) 17:12, 18 February 2023 (UTC) |
*'''Keep''' This article has over 100 incoming links from other Wikipedia articles. The 2018 opensource.com article[https://opensource.com/article/18/5/open-patronage-liberapay], along with additional sources, establishes notability. ([[Red_Hat#Opensource.com|opensource.com]] has been publishing for over 13 years, and longer under different names before that.) Primary sources in the article (links to liberapay.com) are used primarily to support statements of which projects and organizations use the platform. --[[User:Bensin|Bensin]] ([[User talk:Bensin|talk]]) 17:12, 18 February 2023 (UTC) |
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It is difficult to find "significant coverage" to cite. Most content is based on primary sources and insider knowledge of the founder-editor. Yae4 (talk) 16:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Finance, Business, and Software. Yae4 (talk) 16:20, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
Responses:
- nextinpact.com 2017 citation is biased. It ends, translated, "What I hope for Liberapay is that the project reaches its goal: to allow a better financing of free software, not only software but also art and everything else. I also hope that the public will recognize the huge work that a project like Liberapay represents and support its development more" concludes its co-creator. The next evolutions should be detailed during a conference at the Libre Software Meeting (LSM) in Saint Etienne, France, in early July." It looks based on an embedded Youtube video, which was self-published by Liberapay. Not very independent. Nextinpact Not yet discussed at WP:RSN. Cited about 40 times.
- linuxfr.org 2016 heading says "Posted by Zatalyz (personal website) on 11/30/16 at 08:32. Edited by 7 contributors. Moderated by ZeroHeure." It appears to be a user-generated group blog post; therefore Unreliable for wikipedia per WP:USERGENERATED. Not discussed at WP:RSN; Cited ~27 times.
- Numerama citation is a summary description in a list of 5 similar platforms summaries. Not significant coverage. Not discussed at WP:RSN; cited ~70 times.
- Opensource citation, which I added in Special:Diff/1139491501, is the one apparently reliable source with significant coverage.
@Bensin: There are many more primary sources, including Libera pay Weblate, About (a couple times). Also a Patreon Support post, self-published about Patreon. A few Liberapay Tweets (mea culpa for adding one).
@Alalch E.: There was no response to my Notability comment at Talk:Liberapay, and I felt getting uninvolved editor opinions would be good. Yae4, Bensin and Alalch_E. are involved at Liberapay.[1] -- Yae4 (talk) 18:43, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Weak keep. There are several sources available that should push this to meet GNG, but I'm not entirely sure about the reliability of some of these sources: [2][3][4][5] 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 16:57, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep This article has over 100 incoming links from other Wikipedia articles. The 2018 opensource.com article[6], along with additional sources, establishes notability. (opensource.com has been publishing for over 13 years, and longer under different names before that.) Primary sources in the article (links to liberapay.com) are used primarily to support statements of which projects and organizations use the platform. --Bensin (talk) 17:12, 18 February 2023 (UTC)
- Keep. There is sufficient in-depth coverage in reliable independent sources about this website, already included in the article. I really don't understand what made the nominator start this. —Alalch E. 17:22, 18 February 2023 (UTC)