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Warning notices

It's probably not a good idea to use red warning triangles with newbies who are not malicious, just not quite "getting" it :) A friendly note with advice on how to move forward can be preferable, where the former risks frightening them off (WP:BITE is, of course, the relevant policy - I'm not accusing you of being Bite-y, but it expresses the sentiment) --Errant ^(chat!) 09:57, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I just noticed your note. Point taken. Thanks. - DVdm (talk) 10:00, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. I regularly need a reminder myself... --Errant ^(chat!) 10:02, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I had a look again and only now noticed your remark about a possible mistake — wp:AGF at its best. So I decided to remove the signs. Cheers - DVdm (talk) 15:49, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

AIV report

Thanks for the AIV report for 212.85.28.40. That IP has a long block log, and I've just added a year-long stretch to it. —Tom Morris (talk) 15:29, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A stretch it is :-) Cheers. - DVdm (talk) 15:39, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia organization

A description of WP organization is in this draft. Please look it over and make changes with accompanying discussion on its Talk page. Brews ohare (talk) 17:34, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have seen it and, from a great distance, it looks pretty good. It would be nice to have an article with this kind of content. However, I don't think that I'm sufficiently competent in the material to make (or even suggest) changes. I commented on the earlier RFC at Talk:Wikipedia because, as you probably have noticed, I am interested in the "correct" interpretation of wp:CIRCULAR under/over wp:PRIMARY. I will certainly keep an eye open and I wish you good luck. Cheers & keep cool! - DVdm (talk) 18:17, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now moved to this location. Brews ohare (talk) 15:34, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I had noticed and had put it on watchlist already. Looks good. I hope it will root. - DVdm (talk) 16:22, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A Star, for you

		The Userpage Shield
		Thanks for taking care of that vandalism on my page. Achowat (talk) 20:46, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

My pleasure. Thanks and cheers! - DVdm (talk) 21:24, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edgardo Mortara

D, thanks for the slack you picked up at the article. I'm afraid I did that in a stupid moment of multitasking and did not bother to try to fix it. I'm glad you went in and straightened it - also I see that I misunderstood the Dawkins ref. So thanks for that. Djathinkimacowboy 21:38, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Without screwing up the flow or altering further, I did clean up some of that grammar, which I see you simply reverted to; it did not reflect the correct expression of what occurred. For example, it was accurate but it sounded as if Edgardo had been automatically or magically made Catholic through this rite of baptism. It needs to express that it is the Catholic belief and not just stated as a fact. Also I made improvements regarding Canon Law, which is the Code of Canon Law of the Church and guides it. It needs to be emphasized that it was also the law of the land in the Papal States - and even that is incorrect because Canon Law deals exclusively with the Church, not so much with civil, common law. Djathinkimacowboy 21:45, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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-== list of cold fusion researchers ==
-We obviously cant describe each researchers contribution in the cold fusion article. Rothwell's first list has 4500 names on it. A later version only lists the 350 peer review published researchers. We cant list this on the cold fusion article but it does show how active the field exactly is. Currently people believe Rossi is doing all the work. This while he hasn't even published anything. Nothing on Wikipedia contradicts this flawed assumption.
-I'm not sure about the exact criteria at this stage but before adding them to a Wikipedia ''list of researchers'' each list item should have the credentials checked out. This is going to take some time. People who have a wikipedia article that already identifies them as a cold fusion researcher would obviously be the first to approve. The gray areas need a bit of debate first.
-If you cant wait you can put the article live with 4 or 5 of the 350 names on it but I thought that was a bit of a silly approach. The list on the talk page is suppose to be a photo-negative of the one on the article so that editors can easily help expand it.
-If in doubt, we also have [[List of quantum gravity researchers]] and one for [[List of loop quantum gravity researchers]] etc etc
-[[Special:Contributions/84.106.26.81|84.106.26.81]] ([[User talk:84.106.26.81|talk]]) 17:13, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
-:I obviously cant continue now that you took over the page so I'm going to do something else. My apologies if my response is a bit slow. [[Special:Contributions/84.106.26.81|84.106.26.81]] ([[User talk:84.106.26.81|talk]]) 17:24, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
-::Now that I have had a quick read of the serious [[wp:BLP]]-related objections at [[Talk:Cold fusion#List of cold fusion researchers]], I ''strongly'' suggest you remove that long list ASAP and try to get a solid [[wp:consensus]] with the other editors over there. I will not touch anything further. [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 17:40, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
-:::I can see you are reverting IP edits. I also see in this process you ended up falsely accusing me of BLP violations, suggesting Cold fusion is a dirty word in the eyes of cold fusion researchers. I would like you to substantiate the claim or withdraw it.
-:::Thanks ;) [[Special:Contributions/84.106.26.81|84.106.26.81]] ([[User talk:84.106.26.81|talk]]) 20:30, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
-::::Well, I don't see any BLP-accusation or claim from my part, so I wouldn't know what I possibly could substantiate or withdraw. The BLP-related stuff that I do see, are objections and concerns by {{diff||459802973|459801847|Stephan Schulz}}, {{diff||next|459802973|SteveBaker}}, {{diff||next|459804959|again}}, and {{diff||next|459805648|TenOfAllTrades}} on [[Talk:Cold fusion#List of cold fusion researchers]], and it would be very wise to listen to these guys. Consider it a friendly, but well-informed little piece of advice. Good luck. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 22:11, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
-I didn't even understand their point. lol Apparently they got the impression I wasn't going to source anything. What would be the fun in that? It's such a strange assumption I really didn't get it. Now it all makes sense. I just have to get used to the idea of being treated like an idiot and all will be fine. haha [[Special:Contributions/84.106.26.81|84.106.26.81]] ([[User talk:84.106.26.81|talk]]) 03:04, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
-:It looks like you still don't get the point. It is not about sourcing, but about ''interpreting sources'' the wrong way (see [[wp:SYNTH]], [[wp:NOR]], [[wp:BLP]]). The point is that having XYZ's name in the list of authors of a publication in PQR's list of UVW-related publications, does not warrant labeling XYX as a UVW-researcher with PQR's list as a source. Try re-reading their comments with that in mind. Understand ''that'' and all will be fine. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 08:10, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
-::Stephan Schulz, Steve Baker and TenOfAllTrades make the point that scientists who will be listed on a list of LENR researchers might lose a job/grant/tenure/Nobel Prize or might sue wikipedia.
-::I notice that cold fusion is avoided like the bubonic plague. This is 100% in line what the researchers in the field have been saying all along. The social pressure in the scientific community to dismiss cold fusion is so strong, [[Beak_doctor_costume|mainstream scientists]] will flee town if a cold fusion symposium is held there in fear of catching the disease and lose their scientific life.
-::Of course we cannot copy/paste any external list over to the WP-list. I have already proposed criteria
-::<b>Criteria for inclusion:</b>
-::*Has published a peer reviewed paper clearly on cold fusion / LENR
-::**Co-authors should not be included automatically, but can be if they have consistently co-authored similar papers by the author, ie are in his research group.
-::**Rossi's blog obviously doesn't count as peer reviewed
-::*or has submitted papers/presentations for the annual "International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science" visible in the proceedings
-::*or has authored a book clearly propagation the CF/LENR science.
---[[User:POVbrigand|POVbrigand]] ([[User talk:POVbrigand|talk]]) 09:03, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
-Please have a look on the current status of the list [[User:POVbrigand/list#List_of_LENR_researchers]] (only the first bit, the rest is just working sheet) and let me know what you think. Thanks --[[User:POVbrigand|POVbrigand]] ([[User talk:POVbrigand|talk]]) 14:56, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
-:I had a glance, but I'm not going to scrutinize it, if that is what you would like me to do. I'm not interested in the subject, and even less (!) in ''List-of-Pokemon-characters'' type articles. If you have made sure that ''every single person'' in your list would personally wholeheartedly agree that they ''are indeed'' a Pokemon character, then you ''might'' have nothing to fear, unless of course someone objects to your list as a severe case of [[wp:BLP]]-related [[wp:synth]] and [[wp:original research]]. Good luck with your list. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 15:43, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
-::ok, thanks --[[User:POVbrigand|POVbrigand]] ([[User talk:POVbrigand|talk]]) 16:25, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
-Just to let you know, the list was challenged for BLP while still in my userspace. Nobody responded, so I guess I did everything right. --[[User:POVbrigand|POVbrigand]] ([[User talk:POVbrigand|talk]]) 20:16, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
-:Glad that it works out so far for you. Cheers - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 21:36, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
-== [[Nikola Tesla]] issue ==
-DVdm, I need help. [[Talk:Nikola Tesla|Nikola Tesla discussion page]] Would you come to the section "The lead photo's date" and mediate this? I'm not going to allow the likes of user DIREKTOR to get me in trouble! There's a history there, I'm sure you know it. He's at it again, and after this moment I am not going to acknowledge or respond. Which I ought to have done so much earlier! If you can lend a hand, I would be so obliged. [[User:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#800080">'''Djathink'''</span>]][[User talk:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#FF00FF">'''imacowboy'''</span>]] 19:30, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
-: Sorry, this has been sorted out and no need to worry about the matter. My apologies, but frankly you were the first person I thought of asking. My apologies. [[User:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#800080">'''Djathink'''</span>]][[User talk:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#FF00FF">'''imacowboy'''</span>]] 21:38, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
-== cjt ==
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-Hah. I wish I could say that cjt is code for [[WP:CITEKILL]], but the fact of the matter is that misspelled "'''cit'''ation" and accidentally hit Enter while reaching for Backspace :) --[[User:Anders Feder|Anders Feder]] ([[User talk:Anders Feder|talk]]) 23:02, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
-:Ah... now the edit makes sense. I notice that {{diff||next|462316245|someone undid the edit}} though. Thanks and cheers. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:44, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
-== Hello ==
-Just in case you havn't noticed (don't worry) on [[User talk:F=q(E+v^B)|my talk page]], the [[talk:lorentz transformation|lorentz transformation talk page]] or the [[talk:real and imaginary parts|real and imaginary parts talk page]], I wrote stuff in response to you're welcome. Thanks again, --[[User:F&#61;q(E+v^B)|F&#61;q(E+v^B)]] ([[User talk:F&#61;q(E+v^B)|talk]]) 00:14, 26 November 2011 (UTC).
-:Ok. I made a comment {{diff||prev|462554580|here}}. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 11:59, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
-== [[Harry Houdini]] help ==
-Sorry, just asking everyone I can think of to please come and help me with a small editing issue at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Harry_Houdini#Exhumation_edit and I do respect your views. [[User:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#800080">'''Djathink'''</span>]][[User talk:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#FF00FF">'''imacowboy'''</span>]] 10:38, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
-:Be careful about [[wp:canvassing]]. I made a comment {{diff||462557679|462548014|here}}. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 12:00, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
-:: Oh, I certainly will be careful; as I do not think asking for help personally amounts to canvassing, I thought I was safe. Anyway I came to thank you for the input. Oh, I'm sorry...am I still "canvassing"? [[User:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#800080">'''Djathink'''</span>]][[User talk:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#FF00FF">'''imacowboy'''</span>]] 12:23, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
-:::The canvassing remark was more in light of some of your previous calls for help here, and some comments made [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&oldid=462523365#Weird_defamation_campaign in this ANI incident]. Just be careful and you'll be okay. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 12:33, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
-Aha, you mean ''that''. Well, point well taken, and I appreciate the warning. In fact, I went about deleting my couple of other posts to those who had not responded. Hope that does not end up looking bad too.
-You know, I feel I can tell you, I have just about had all I can take from exerting myself here. Look what happens: the air is full of chisels. Even you felt the need to present my appeal to you on the Houdini talk page.
-This niggling (not you!) and name-calling is making me ill. And please don't tell me to take a vacation. ;) This stupid Wikipedia editing used to be a hobby I liked. [[User:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#800080">'''Djathink'''</span>]][[User talk:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#FF00FF">'''imacowboy'''</span>]] 13:19, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
-:Do take a vacation. It ''does'' help, specially when you begin to dislike the hobby of "stupid Wikipedia editing". - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 14:51, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
-:: Sort of vacationing and idly observing Wikievents. I want to apologise to you, because I have been unnecessarily testy, because I have been rude. My statement about regretting the star I awarded you was totally out of line. Won't happen again, my word. You were helpful at the article and I was just being petulant about that as well. Back to vac![[Special:Contributions/75.21.96.166|75.21.96.166]] ([[User talk:75.21.96.166|talk]]) 07:16, 29 November 2011 (UTC)SORRY! [[User:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#800080">'''Djathink'''</span>]][[User talk:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#FF00FF">'''imacowboy'''</span>]] 07:27, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
-::: Ok, enjoy the time off. Don't forget to take '''deep''' breaths! - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 08:32, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
-::: ... and when you return, stay as close to Alpha Quadrant as you possibly can. Trust! - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 17:57, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
-:::: Wise and appreciated words. [[User:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#800080">'''Djathink'''</span>]][[User talk:Djathinkimacowboy|<span style="color:#FF00FF">'''imacowboy'''</span>]] 14:33, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
-== Thanks... ==
-...for your recent [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Tide_rolls&diff=463672145&oldid=463672066 help].  Keep up the good work.  [[User:Tide rolls|'''<span style="color:White;background:darkRed">Tide</span>''']][[User talk:Tide rolls|'''<span style="color:darkRed">rolls'''</span>]] 08:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
-:No problem. Looks like they got the message — for now... - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:46, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
-== Behindwoods news template ==
-This is a template to generate a link to Behindwoods news article in your edits.
-{{[[Template:Behindwoods|Behindwoods]]}} {{unsigned|Yjenith}}
-:Thanks, but I have no idea what I could do with this. Anyway, please sign talk page messages with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). Thanks. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 18:00, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
-::You can use this as External links (not inline links/cite) when you want to refer the articles published in Behindwoods--[[User:Yjenith|Jenith Michael Raj]] ([[User talk:Yjenith|<font color="green">talk</font>]]) 18:11, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
-:::Yes, I had figured that out, but ''why'' would I do that? I have never heard of Behindwoods. What made you decide to let me and a handful of other contributors know? Are we somehow interested in Behindwoods? - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 18:19, 6 December 2011 (UTC)
-::::Hello, sorry but I stumbled upon this and couldn't help but try to clear the confusion. The above editor is seriously confused. He means to use that template in articles pertaining to [[Cinema of India]] or [[Tamil cinema]] (perhaps you edited such an article which is why he chose to inform you about this). Anywho, that template is actually useless because it the purpose of that template does not conform to [[WP:EL]]. [[User:Eelamstylez77|EelamStyleZ]] ([[User talk:Eelamstylez77|talk]]) 04:28, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
-:::::I have put a few warnings on this user's talk page ({{diff||464543732|464539974}} and {{diff||next|464543732}} ). Cheers - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:54, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
-::: Hi, [[User:DVdm]]  I have seen as you contribute to [[Cinema of India]]/[[Tamil cinema]], so I thought it maybe useful for you. Behindwoods is local cinema news provider. This template will help generating links for the artciles published in Behindwoods. The page author can use it whenever they want to provide references from Behindwoods. Sorry for the spamming in your talk page and late reply.<br> [[User:Eelamstylez77]], it is for you, if you are not able to clear about the template, you should ask me instaed of giving false impression about other authors. It is not at al any polite manner you replied without any deep looking.  <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Yjenith|Yjenith]] ([[User talk:Yjenith|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Yjenith|contribs]]) 09:48, 7 December 2011 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
-:::: Yjenith, just stop it please. You will get yourself blocked if you continue like this. - [[User:DVdm|DVdm]] ([[User talk:DVdm#top|talk]]) 09:54, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
-== Twitter status message Template ==
-This is a template to generate a direct link to the Twitter status message. You can use this template to navigate directly to the Tweet or to refer someone directly to any Tweet in your wiki. You can use this template freely wherever you need to refer any tweets/twitter users of [[Twitter#Features]] for your external references or some other places. --[[User:Yjenith|Jenith Michael Raj]] ([[User talk:Yjenith|<font color="green">talk</font>]]) 06:24, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Twitter_status
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