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[[WP:BLP]], referenced solely to a [[WP:PRIMARYSOURCES|primary source]] profile on the self-published website of his own political party rather than any evidence of [[WP:RS|reliable source]] coverage in real media, of a person notable only as a former chairperson of a political party's youth chapter. This is not an automatic free pass over [[WP:NPOL]] just because he exists, but would require him to pass [[WP:GNG]] on depth of media coverage. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC) |
[[WP:BLP]], referenced solely to a [[WP:PRIMARYSOURCES|primary source]] profile on the self-published website of his own political party rather than any evidence of [[WP:RS|reliable source]] coverage in real media, of a person notable only as a former chairperson of a political party's youth chapter. This is not an automatic free pass over [[WP:NPOL]] just because he exists, but would require him to pass [[WP:GNG]] on depth of media coverage. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC) |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Politicians|list of Politicians-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)</small> |
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Politicians|list of Politicians-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)</small> |
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:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Germany|list of Germany-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)</small> |
:<small class="delsort-notice">Note: This discussion has been included in the [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Germany|list of Germany-related deletion discussions]]. [[User:Bearcat|Bearcat]] ([[User talk:Bearcat|talk]]) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)</small> |
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*'''Delete''' - fails GNG. [[User:Atsme|<span style="text-shadow:#F8F8FF 0.2em 0.2em 0.4em,#F4BBFF -0.2em -0.3em 0.6em,#BFFF00 0.8em 0.8em 0.6em;color:#A2006D"><sup>Atsme</sup></span>]] <sub>[[User talk:Atsme|<small>Talk</small>]]</sub> [[Special:EmailUser/Atsme|📧]] 05:15, 12 May 2019 (UTC) |
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*'''Keep''' The biography is a stub, but the claim that the only notability notability comes through his chairmanship of the youth chapter isn't true. He's still today a member of the board of the SPD (Parteivorstand) on the national level, which happens to be one of the ruling parties federal level in Germany. |
*'''Keep''' The biography is a stub, but the claim that the only notability notability comes through his chairmanship of the youth chapter isn't true. He's still today a member of the board of the SPD (Parteivorstand) on the national level, which happens to be one of the ruling parties federal level in Germany. |
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:Additionally, there are plenty of news articles that talk about him. I added six links to mainstream media sources but it would be easy to add more. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style='color: #0000EE;'>'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 14:17, 12 May 2019 (UTC) |
:Additionally, there are plenty of news articles that talk about him. I added six links to mainstream media sources but it would be easy to add more. [[User:ChristianKl|<span style='color: #0000EE;'>'''ChristianKl'''</span>]] ❪[[User talk:ChristianKl|✉]]❫ 14:17, 12 May 2019 (UTC) |
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<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Sandstein '''</span>]]</span></small> 09:12, 19 May 2019 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist --><noinclude>[[Category:Relisted AfD debates|Sascha Vogt]]</noinclude></div><!-- Please add new comments below this line --> |
<small>Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, <small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Sandstein|<span style="color:white;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Sandstein '''</span>]]</span></small> 09:12, 19 May 2019 (UTC)</small><!-- from Template:Relist --><noinclude>[[Category:Relisted AfD debates|Sascha Vogt]]</noinclude></div><!-- Please add new comments below this line --> |
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*'''Delete''' this refbombed blurb of triviality. Refund when actual notability happens. [[User:Trillfendi|Trillfendi]] ([[User talk:Trillfendi|talk]]) 14:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC) |
*'''Delete''' this refbombed blurb of triviality. Refund when actual notability happens. [[User:Trillfendi|Trillfendi]] ([[User talk:Trillfendi|talk]]) 14:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC) |
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*'''Move to draft''' - if there are other noteworthy facts about him that can be properly sourced, let's see them and then we can reconsider. [[User:Greenrd|greenrd]] ([[User talk:Greenrd|talk]]) 19:14, 19 May 2019 (UTC) |
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*'''Move to draft space''' per suggestiong by [[User:Atsme]] Subject may be notable but the article is a stub and I cannot be bothered to work on it. The references should be formatted properly and the article developed. <small><span style="border:1px solid blue;padding:1px;">[[User:Lubbad85|<span style="color:white;background:red;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Lubbad85 '''</span>]]</span></small>([[User talk:Lubbad85|<b style="color:#060">☎</b>]]) 16:54, 19 May 2019 (UTC) |
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WP:BLP, referenced solely to a primary source profile on the self-published website of his own political party rather than any evidence of reliable source coverage in real media, of a person notable only as a former chairperson of a political party's youth chapter. This is not an automatic free pass over WP:NPOL just because he exists, but would require him to pass WP:GNG on depth of media coverage. Bearcat (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 04:47, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete - fails GNG. Atsme Talk 📧 05:15, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- Keep The biography is a stub, but the claim that the only notability notability comes through his chairmanship of the youth chapter isn't true. He's still today a member of the board of the SPD (Parteivorstand) on the national level, which happens to be one of the ruling parties federal level in Germany.
- Additionally, there are plenty of news articles that talk about him. I added six links to mainstream media sources but it would be easy to add more. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 14:17, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
- You have to use references to support content, not just factoids in the infobox, before they actually constitute support for notability. Bearcat (talk) 15:52, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
- @Bearcat: What existing Wikipedia policy rules that what's in the infobox isn't content?
- The policy says "If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". The election of a new JUSO chairperson is an event that receives "significant coverage in reliable sources". The sources I linked indicate so. ChristianKl ❪✉❫ 09:46, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- A single statement that the person exists, paired with an infobox but no substantive body text, is not a proper Wikipedia article. Articles need to be substantive to have any encyclopedic value. Bearcat (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- Bearcat - perhaps a move to DRAFT would work? That will give the article creator time to actually make it a WP article with proper sourcing. Atsme Talk 📧 16:57, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- A single statement that the person exists, paired with an infobox but no substantive body text, is not a proper Wikipedia article. Articles need to be substantive to have any encyclopedic value. Bearcat (talk) 16:26, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
- You have to use references to support content, not just factoids in the infobox, before they actually constitute support for notability. Bearcat (talk) 15:52, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:12, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 09:12, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Delete this refbombed blurb of triviality. Refund when actual notability happens. Trillfendi (talk) 14:55, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
- Move to draft - if there are other noteworthy facts about him that can be properly sourced, let's see them and then we can reconsider. greenrd (talk) 19:14, 19 May 2019 (UTC)