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::What an obtuse, intractable standard. This isn't speculative science; these effects are being replicated as we speak. Let's at least allow language on the wiki that acknowledges the preliminary nature of these trials whilst maintaining the central claim that Luvox has demonstrated noteworthy effects. [[User:Frevangelion|Frevangelion]] ([[User talk:Frevangelion|talk]]) 15:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC) |
::What an obtuse, intractable standard. This isn't speculative science; these effects are being replicated as we speak. Let's at least allow language on the wiki that acknowledges the preliminary nature of these trials whilst maintaining the central claim that Luvox has demonstrated noteworthy effects. [[User:Frevangelion|Frevangelion]] ([[User talk:Frevangelion|talk]]) 15:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC) |
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Yes, "reuptake" is a real word. Perhaps we should have an article on neurotransmitter reuptake? Karada 07:26 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Yup yup you guys can write an interesting article on that weird looking word =)) --Poor Yorick
Common-dosage information seems relevant to me. Thoughts? Tarka 07:33 4 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Can this drug safe in pregnancy for a woman with pre existing depression?
- Wikipedia:Medical disclaimer :-) --Michael 11:15, August 24, 2005 (UTC)
Citation needed
This:
"Although its effects are similar to other SSRIs, fluvoxamine has different pharmacological effects. For this reason, fluvoxamine can be of benefit to patients who experience unusual or limiting side-effects from other antidepressants. Fluvoxamine also appears to cause fewer side-effects than other SSRIs, particularly in relation to loss of sex-drive."
definitely needs a citation. Otherwise, this claim is only some PR try for fluvoxamine.--Spiperon 22:00, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
- I searched for this sentence on google and it is present on many pages (67). Don't have anything for definitive citation though. -- Amit 14:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
The primary pharmacological of SSRI are the same but the secondary pharmacological is different among SSRI. Please refer to the citation provided. Uniearth 11:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
- Any chance of getting an online abstract?Trilobitealive (talk) 22:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
"Sales fell, and Solvay withdrew the medication from the U.S. market in 2002 to prevent further investigation which might have revealed that at least one homicide had occurred among participants during Fluvoxamine's Phase III Clinical Trials prior to FDA approval." This also really needs a citation. I've tagged it for now. 98.220.2.29 (talk) 16:08, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
Cleanup, references and WP:NPOV
I've been working on the drug interaction section plus some other cleanup here and there but other sections need attention, especially for references. Please be aware that there seems to be a general tendency to WP:SYN in this sort of article so we do need to take the time to document our sources. I put flagged two sections I think need references the most. I didn't flag the article with a POV notice as the prose could be a writing stylism. Or is it POV?Trilobitealive (talk) 22:47, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
Historical relevance
I removed the historical relevance section, because it didn't cite the key claims (about Columbine and the alleged homicide during a trial). It can be put back with citations to reliable sources. Superm401 - Talk 20:56, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
effect of luvox on the brain
i have a feeling of slight pain and itch left posterior occiput, is this a side effect of luvox? im on 150mgm on is it to much or too small a dose —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.132.68.202 (talk) 10:12, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
SSRI
I took before Venlafaxine and Sertraline. Now Faverin and the Efect is almost the same but may it chnage by use of long term what will be happen by me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.211 (talk) 13:20, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Manufacturers
The article as written seems to imply that Jazz and IVAX are the only manufacturers of both Fluvoxamine and Luvox. However, ANI Pharmaceuticals also manufactures both. [1] --64.77.218.74 (talk) 03:45, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
Ciprofloxacine
Anyone aware of interactions with this antibiotic? Both are strong inhibitors of CYP1A2, and I don't know how they mess with each other. --201.67.57.101 (talk) 13:27, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
Paedophilia
The reference that Fluvoxamine has been used to "treat" paedophilia strikes me as particularly odd. Since paedophilia is not a disease per se, it seems a little strange to say Fluvoxamine is used to treat it. Maybe some sort of qualification is in order. As an analogy, imagine if one were to write in the article on EST that it is commonly used to treat Homosexuailty. I am not questioning that there are paedophiles who are taking Fluvoxamine to try to adjust their psychology and sexuality, just that it seems strange to call it a "treatment" without first making the assumption that paraphilia are treatable medical conditions. 76.105.4.183 (talk) 06:36, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
Longest half-life?
"Fluvoxamine has the shortest serum half-life of all SSRIs, with a mean of 15.6 hours." -- AFAIK, fluoxetine is the SSRI with the longest half-life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.101.2.3 (talk) 18:52, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
Bioavailability inconsistency
The table says 77%, the article says 53%. I'm confused, are these different methods of administration maybe?W3ird N3rd (talk) 00:41, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Chemical name
The infobox gives
(E)-5-methoxy-1-[4-(trifluoromethyl)phenyl]pentan-1-one O-2-aminoethyl oxime
but Sittig gives
5-Methoxy-4'-trifluoromethylvalerophenone O-(2- aminoethyl)oxime maleate (1:1)
Clarification appreciated. Spicemix (talk) 21:47, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Fluvoxamine connected to circadian rhythm sleep disorders, as distinguished from other SSRIs.
Summary: According to the abstract appended below, fluvoxamine usage may induce circadian rhythm sleep disorders (CRSD), unlike some other SSRIs.
Relevance: It is important to include CRSD as a potential side effect due to its debilitating effects and the difficulty of its treatment. Awareness of this study could suggest a simple solution for those affected to try: namely, the substitution of a different SSRI.
Request: My Wikipedia edits have primarily been grammar/punctuation so I don't feel confident editing pharmacology content. Therefore, I'm submitting this information for you to act upon as you see fit.
The Abstract:
Circadian rhythm sleep disorders as a possible side effect of fluvoxamine by Hermesh H1, Lemberg H, Abadi J, Dagan Y. CNS Spectr. 2001 Jun ;6(6):511-3. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15744215/
Sleep problems, day somnolence, and fatigue as a result of psychotropic drugs are very common. Psychiatrists usually consider these effects a result of insomnia and treat them by prescribing sleeping pills or other benzodiazepine agents. We describe here 10 cases of circadian rhythm sleep disorders (CRSD)--and not merely insomnia--as a possible side effect of fluvoxamine (FVA). Two other serotonin reuptake inhibitors, fluoxetine and clomipramine, did not induce CRSD in any of these 10 patients. We speculate that FVA-induced CRSD is caused by the effect of FVA on serotonin and melatonin levels in the central nervous system. CRSD as a side effect of FVA can be treated by replacing the suspected FVA or adding melatonin to a beneficial FVA treatment. Thus, it is important to be aware of possible iatrogenic CRSD in order to treat appropriately. Prospective studies are needed to confirm our observation and to study the influence of other psychotropic drugs on sleep-wake schedule.
Cited in:
World Psychiatry. 2007 Jun;6(2):108-11. A prospective study of delayed sleep phase syndrome in patients with severe resistant obsessive-compulsive disorder. Turner J1, Drummond LM, Mukhopadhyay S, Ghodse H, White S, Pillay A, Fineberg NA. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18235868
Dialogues Clin Neurosci. 2005;7(4):357-65. Behavioral and psychiatric consequences of sleep-wake schedule disorders. Dagan Y1, Borodkin K. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16416711
SoSaysSunny (talk) 09:52, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
Five healthy volunteers ingested a single dose of 5 mg melatonin. One week later they were given a single dose of 50 mg fluvoxamine with or without an additional dose of 5 mg melatonin after three hours. Coadministration of fluvoxamine led to a 23-fold higher (p<0.05) area under concentration-time curve (AUC) (6.2 to 141.3 mg/h/L and a 12-fold higher (p<0.01) serum peak concentration (Cmax) (2.18 to 25.1 ng/mL) of melatonin (1).
Serum profiles of melatonin were studied in a 51 year-old patient, without drugs, under separate administration of fluvoxamine and melatonin and under combined treatment. Administration of 75 mg fluvoxamine and 5 mg melatonin increased the availability of melatonin 20-fold (2).
References
(1) Härtter S, Grözinger M, Weigmann H, Röschke J, Hiemke C. Increased bioavailability of oral melatonin after fluvoxamine coadministration. Clin Pharmacol Ther. 2000;67:1-6.(PubMed Id: 10668847) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10668847
(2) Grözinger M, Härtter S, Wang X, Röschke J, Hiemke C, Rose DM. Fluvoxamine strongly inhibits melatonin metabolism in a patient with low-amplitude melatonin profile. Arch Gen Psychiatry. 2000;57:812-3.(PubMed Id: 10920471) https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10920471
--ee1518 (talk) 01:05, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Abstract: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15744215/
Title: Circadian rhythm sleep disorders as a possible side effect of fluvoxamine. 2001 June.
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Full text can be downloaded via Sci-Hub:
- Melatonin therapy of 5 mg/day taken simultaneously with FVA=Fluvoxamine restored the sleep-wake cycle to its normal rhythm in 2 out of 4 therapeutic trials
- The lowest dose of FVA that was associated with delayed DSPS = sleep-phase syndrome was 100 mg/day. (So use 50mg/day).
- FVA was withdrawn. 10 days later, the DSPS completely disappeared; however, a mild depression was apparent and her OCD was significantly exacerbated. Readministration of FVA 100 mg/day resulted in a similar delayed sleep-wake phenomenon within a week from commencement.
--ee1518 (talk) 01:44, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
Countries
"although in other countries", says the Medical Uses section. Countries other than what? I assume this is a reference to the FDA thing, and I also assume that the FDA thing is North American, but it's a bit unclear. —Vom (talk) 15:08, 5 May 2016 (UTC)
Vom: The FDA stands for the "Food and Drug Administration" and is actually referenced earlier in the article when discussing the black box warning. It is an agency of the United States government which regulates and categorizes (we use the term "Schedule" to describe categories of) pharmaceuticals. So yes, it's "North American" but specifically the United States of America. I think because this is the English Wikipedia page, it may have been written by an American, and this reference is for American readers. If you think we should change this, perhaps we should make it something like, "While the United States FDA has only approved this drug for the treatment of OCD, it is approved for use by *insert other nations' regulating agencies* (in Austrailia, the Russian Federation, and UK respectively) for also treating major depressive disorder." RedDarling (talk) 04:15, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
Largest manufacturer
First of all this source is very hard to access.[2]
Which text specifically says it is the most common manufacturer? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 14:56, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
Fluoride content and bioavailability of Fluoride from Fluvoxamine, compared to fluoride from drinking water and food?
I calculated that 50mg tablet of Fluvoxamine contains the following amount of fluoride:
https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/Fluvoxamine
- Molar mass of Fluvoxamine = 318.33
- Molar mass of Fluoride = 19
- Number of Fluoride atoms in Fluvoxamine = 3
(3*19)/318.33*50mg = 9mg fluoride.
Or less, if Fluvoxamine is salt of something that pubchem doesn't include in molar mass?
In Finland the average total intake of fluoride from water, food and toothpaste is only 0.6mg/day, although it is higher in areas were drinking water contains more fluoride. 80-85% comes from food. 90% of ingested fluoride is absorbed from gut:
Intake of Iodine should be increased somewhat when taking Fluvoxamine, because Fluoride and Iodine are both in group 17 of periocal table of elements, but I don't know the details. So I would supplement with at least 100% RDA of Iodine with FluvoxAmine.
Iodine and some medicines containing fluoride are mentioned here without scientific references: https://www.sun-sentinel.com/health/fl-xpm-2013-12-27-fl-suzy-cohen-122913-20131219-story.html
See elements 9=F and 53=I: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periodic_table
--ee1518 (talk) 11:36, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
Information on use for treating COVID
All the information I added on the FLV use in COVID on December 23 was removed shortly thereafter. Yet the information was all based on reliable sources including a JAMA article which has been viewed over 120,000. How is that not relevant medical information? All the other sources are reliable medical information, or are directly from recognized experts, and nothing there was not supported by solid scientific evidence. This is a huge disservice to the world to remove this, so I am baffled by the removal. Please explain the benefit to removing this lifesaving information. Thanks!
Stkirsch (talk) 08:36, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- We need WP:MEDRS sources. PMID 33180097 is primary research. Alexbrn (talk) 08:42, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- What an obtuse, intractable standard. This isn't speculative science; these effects are being replicated as we speak. Let's at least allow language on the wiki that acknowledges the preliminary nature of these trials whilst maintaining the central claim that Luvox has demonstrated noteworthy effects. Frevangelion (talk) 15:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
- Could we, perhaps, treat it as a media phenomenon and reflect in the Society and culture section? Something along the lines: media promotes fluvoxamine for the treament of COVID-19, while not a single double blind trial has been tun.
- What an obtuse, intractable standard. This isn't speculative science; these effects are being replicated as we speak. Let's at least allow language on the wiki that acknowledges the preliminary nature of these trials whilst maintaining the central claim that Luvox has demonstrated noteworthy effects. Frevangelion (talk) 15:19, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
Whoops, my mistake. Boy, that's a real shame. Stkirsch (talk) 20:01, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
- [3] Another study, primary source yada yada. Abstract: "We report a real-world experience using fluvoxamine for coronavirus disease 19 (COVID-19) in a prospective cohort in the setting of a mass outbreak. Overall, 65 persons opted to receive fluvoxamine 50mg twice daily and 48 declined. Incidence of hospitalization was 0% (0/65) with fluvoxamine and 12.5% (6/48) with observation alone. At 14 days, residual symptoms persisted in 0% (0/65) with fluvoxamine and 60% (29/48) with observation." 2602:24A:DE47:BB20:50DE:F402:42A6:A17D (talk) 04:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
Contradictory information on the strength of Fluvoxamine's inhibition of CYP2D6
Hi there, this page cites this paper (Full text available via scihub.) for Fluvoxamine being a moderate CYP2D6 inhibitor meanwhile the page for CYP2D6 cites this link stating it's a weak CYP2D6 inhibitor.
Could someone assist in ironing out this discrepancy? 203.54.35.151 (talk) 12:02, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
Done. Alexbrn (talk) 12:30, 25 December 2020 (UTC)