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Good afternoon, I had a quick question regarding the sock puppet investigation into me. Apologies if this is a basic question but I'm new here and relatively unfamiliar with the protocol for those investigations.

You responded to the investigation with an image of an X and the phrase "Unrelated." I assume the X means that you have looked into it and I've not been using sock puppets, but what does the "unrelated" mean here? Perpetualgrasp (talk) 12:47, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page watcher)@Perpetualgrasp: It means no technical connection between the users in question. --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:46, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for the explaining that. Perpetualgrasp (talk) 15:49, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

UTRS 43954

A user at UTRS appeal #43954 has requested unblocking. Would it be possible to modify as Tamla suggests? Thanks, --Deepfriedokra (talk) 14:45, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Deepfriedokra: The whois refers to kwdatacentre.com, so it would appear to be a datacenter IP range. Is the user claiming to be an employee of the datacenter trying to connect from their work computer? I don't see any reason to believe the range is residential. ST47 (talk) 21:06, 6 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Vami IV

While I thought a lot of opposes in this now-closed RfA were reasonable, I have to say that "Oppose per other voters who have noted serious concerns with NPOV and extremist views." is quite mean-spirited. Neither the terms "NPOV" nor "extremist" appear anywhere else in the entire discussion in this context, and one might make the reasonable assumption that if Vami IV did hold such views, they would have received Arbcom discretionary sanctions and have a block log to match, as that's where those sort of people end up. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 18:38, 8 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sock acount

user:Ahmet diriand User:Ahmet sami yen.The names and contributions of these two are almost the same and they are creating the same article again.Chief Minister (Talk) 04:42, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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IP address ranges blocked for colocationwebhost also include broadband customers

@ST47: Hello! I am friends with the owner (Mneylon) of a company in Ireland who provides both web hosting AND broadband connections to customers. They are a web hosting provider and an ISP. Unfortunately he and his customers are not able to edit Wikipedia. Looking into it, it seems that network ranges for his ISP business are being blocked from editing with the colocationwebhost template. When I told him this, he indicated that these IP address ranges are for his broadband customers:

78.153.198.0/24 78.153.207.0/24 185.97.236.0/22 194.36.58.0/23 2a01:ac::/32

When I look at the Talk pages for those IP ranges, I can see you were the administrator who added the blocks in either December 2019 or 2020. So I thought I would ask - how can the unblocking of those ranges be requested?

I have read WP:UNBLOCK but that seems to refer to individual user accounts that have been blocked. I have just tried adding the unblock template to one of the Talk pages for the IP address range. Is that what I need to do for the other ones? (He is unable to edit Wikipedia to make the request himself as his IP ranges are blocked.) Thank you for any guidance you can offer - this area of Wikipedia is new to me. - Dyork (talk) 02:06, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Dyork: Okay, those ranges are unblocked. ST47 (talk) 03:42, 11 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Your blocking of 2001:470:8000:0:0:0:0:0/33 was inappropriate

This address range includes IPv6 tunnels (used to provide IPv6 access from otherwise non-IPv6-capable ISPs) served by "Hurricane Electric". This is not 'web hosting' or 'colocation'; it gives me an IPv6 address - 2001:470:82E9:0:5952:71D2:A217:2ED5 - that never changes. In any case, I don't see how such a block should affect me as a legitimate, logged-in user (i.e., not an anonymous 'IP'). With this block in place, I can only edit Wikipedia if I disable IPv6 on my network (as I'm doing right now, in order to write this message). Please remove this block! PatricKiwi (talk) 07:21, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

What you are describing is a proxy or VPN service, which is subject to being blocked from editing to prevent abuse. ST47 (talk) 21:42, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I have had a tunnel from HE since May 2011. Its address has never changed. HE's addresses are if anything more stable than addresses from normal ISPs. Since Wikipedia users have been using these tunnels for over a decade with no problem, nothing has changed at HE, and nothing has changed at the users, what exactly changed last week to merit a block? See https://tunnelbroker.net/ John L (talk) 15:31, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Nonetheless, policies like this (that apply to logged-in users, not just IPs) are going to frustrate lots of legitimate users (like me). (At the very least, I hope this block will no longer apply to me when I eventually become an "extended confirmed user".) PatricKiwi (talk) 23:33, 13 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I must agree with User:PatricKiwi that blocking all of Hurricane Electric is inappropriate. Hurricane Electric provides IPv6 transition network access, which is unlike a VPN or proxy service but more like an ISP allocating address space. In fact, by your definition you could block all ISPs as they do likewise. Hurricane Electric is IPv6 transition tunnelling in many cases is the only way end-users are organisations can obtain IPv6 network access if their own ISP does not provide it natively. My own network allocated by HE is a /48 (and a /64 which in IPv6 terms is the smallest allocatable address spaces).Sejtam (talk) 01:21, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

(talk page stalker) @Sejtam: I think the best thing to do is to raise this on a more higher-profile noticeboard, such as Village pump - technical. A single administrator is unlikely to be familiar with the IP allocation policies of a random ISP. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 20:21, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I seem to recall this coming up before, and the block log for the /32 range is most telling - including a CU undoing a soft block. Looking at the contribs, since I can't be bothered to delve into the archives right now, the previous discussions probably mostly related to this /33. I think we should at least throw around some IPBE, though looking at the CU log - it's not that bad - I probably wouldn't want to maintain a hard block. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 20:48, 16 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

my account is globally locked

hi,
i am Al-Hussein S.M which was locked 2-3 days ago
you left in my talk page a block message and i didn't do anything then i am locked
you mentioned that my account was sockpuppet (i don't know what is that)
so please if you have a reliable reason to lock me mention it if not please return my account
thanks in advance--197.39.39.214 (talk) 17:22, 12 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Block of 103.5.140.170

Hello ST47 could you please remove the block on the IP above. It is a closed network for Starbucks patrons in Japan. I primarily edit from their service since my home internet is seriously outdated. Thanks. ❯❯❯ Mccunicano ☕️ 00:37, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sock

Please check User:PhotographyEdits,user:Wingwatchers The contributor looks like these two are the same people Chief Minister (Talk) 17:38, 14 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

How can I ever be a sock of Photograph? Wingwatchers (talk) 01:41, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Vedbas:, that makes no sense, come and please check it then. Wingwatchers (talk) 01:43, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Vedbas: it's considered quite serious to accuse someone of sockpuppetry here. We expect that if you suspect that two accounts are being used by one person in a way which goes against the sockpuppetry policy, then it is up to you to provide evidence. This is usually in the form of diffs comparing one account's edits with the other account, and explaining why you think that the edits show that the policy is being violated. Accusing someone of sockpuppetry without any evidence can be considered a personal attack. Please explain what you mean. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 01:55, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Ivanvector: I have not made this complaint about the attitude of personal attack. I think I'm wrong to make this complaint. I saw some contributions and thought these two people were the same. I am getting acquainted with something new on Wikipedia slowly. Forgive if it's wrong. And. I'll be more careful later.i very Realy Sorry.Chief Minister (Talk) 02:04, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for Guide Line sockpuppetry policy I will follow this guideline.Chief Minister (Talk) 02:07, 15 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Oshwah requesting you to Confirm you CU blocked DisneyFan6

Come to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/LukeAwesome93#Comments by other users. LooneyTraceYT comment • treats 00:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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 This address range includes IPv6 tunnels (used to provide IPv6 access from otherwise non-IPv6-capable ISPs) served by "Hurricane Electric".  This is not 'web hosting' or 'colocation'; it gives me an IPv6 address - 2001:470:82E9:0:5952:71D2:A217:2ED5 - that never changes.  In any case, I don't see how such a block should affect me as a legitimate, logged-in user (i.e., not an anonymous 'IP').  With this block in place, I can only edit Wikipedia if I disable IPv6 on my network (as I'm doing right now, in order to write this message).  Please remove this block! [[User:PatricKiwi|PatricKiwi]] ([[User talk:PatricKiwi|talk]]) 07:21, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
 :What you are describing is a proxy or VPN service, which is [[WP:OP|subject to being blocked from editing]] to prevent abuse. [[User:ST47|ST47]] ([[User talk:ST47#top|talk]]) 21:42, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
+:I have had a tunnel from HE since May 2011.  Its address has never changed. HE's addresses are if anything '''more''' stable than addresses from normal ISPs. Since Wikipedia users have been using these tunnels for over a decade with no problem, nothing has changed at HE, and nothing has changed at the users, what exactly changed last week to merit a block? See https://tunnelbroker.net/ [[User:Jrlevine|John L]] ([[User talk:Jrlevine|talk]]) 15:31, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
 ::Nonetheless, policies like this (that apply to logged-in users, not just IPs) are going to frustrate lots of legitimate users (like me).  (At the very least, I hope this block will no longer apply to me when I eventually become an "extended confirmed user".) [[User:PatricKiwi|PatricKiwi]] ([[User talk:PatricKiwi|talk]]) 23:33, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 ::: I must agree with [[User:PatricKiwi]] that blocking all of Hurricane Electric is inappropriate. Hurricane Electric provides IPv6 transition network access, which is unlike a VPN or proxy service but more like an ISP allocating address space. In fact, by your definition you could block all ISPs as they do likewise. Hurricane Electric is IPv6 transition tunnelling in many cases is the only way end-users are organisations can obtain IPv6 network access if their own ISP does not provide it natively. My own network allocated by HE is a /48 (and a /64 which in IPv6 terms is the smallest allocatable address spaces).[[User:Sejtam|Sejtam]] ([[User talk:Sejtam|talk]]) 01:21, 15 June 2021 (UTC)