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Romance ignored?

The description of plot form (exposition to crisis to climax) is not applicable to most romance. Romance is about 70% of today's fiction.

This article could be expanded to include 'pinch points' (wherein the strength of the antagonist is revealed) but these are entirely the domain of action adventure, science fiction, mystery, etc.

Let's do a QD Pride and Prejudice (Goodreads greatest romance of all time). Darcy alienates Elizabeth at the assembly. Darcy (good looking, very rich) proposes in Kent. Elizabeth rejects him. Elizabeth visits Pemberley. Hears housekeeper's praise of Darcy. Revises opinion. Darcy arranges Lydia's marriage. Asks Elizabeth for hand, again, and is accepted. Crisis? Climax? One can force-fit this into an Ivanhoe mold, but not by remaining true to Austen.

In the interest of full disclosure, I am trying to write romance, and am extremely frustrated that the theories around plot generally don't apply. One would think that (hope that?) the 70% majority would be better served.

MartinRinehart (talk) 20:00, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

• Interesting point. I'm not sure that romance is ignored as distinguished from not being included. Wikipedia will always be in draft. Is Pride and Prejudice a short story? In the article, we're calling it a novel.--Georgia Army Vet Contribs Talk 21:06, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

Too many sections

The contents of the section "1 Today" would be more appropriate in the "1945 to modern day" subsection of "7 History."

If short story salons are as relevant as they would appear (as they have been given their own section), than a more thorough history should be given. If they are only relevant in modernity, then they belong under "7 History: 1945 to modern day". Alternatively, they could appear in the subsection of "History" during which they became prominent.

"Nobel Prize in Literature" could be consolidated with "Short story awards"

The statement in the section "Length": "Interpreting this standard nowadays is problematic, because the expected length of "one sitting" may now be briefer than it was in Poe's era." requires a source.

Overall, the article could use some cleaning up of all the examples of short stories given. It is necessary to choose notable short stories to list as examples, else this article becomes "List of short stories" AntiImperialPlanetologist (talk) 21:31, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Rereading the History section, I think the main issue lies in the notability of the authors versus their impact on the form of short stories. For example, I do believe the inclusion of Borges contributes positively to the article, since his most notable works are short stories. The inclusions of authors such as Mishima and Murakami only serve to clutter the article. They are certainly influential, but their influence does not come from the short story medium. In the future, I plan to work on this article, but before then, I recommend others to reduce the number of authors listed by such standards. AntiImperialPlanetologist talk 03:34, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

I also believe the /* History */ section should include reference to the rise in popularity of the Pulp magazine as an important medium through which short stories were distributed. The Wikipedia article for pulp magazines include the sentence:

"The collapse of the pulp industry changed the landscape of publishing because pulps were the single largest sales outlet for short stories."

Additionally, the article could use reference to horror writers. Poe is already referenced, but H.P. Lovecraft is another important contributor to short fiction. AntiImperialPlanetologist talk 14:51, 17 April 2019 (UTC)

Requesting wider attention

I felt article Islamic_literature is in bit of neglect so I added my note on talk page there, requesting to take note of Talk:Islamic_literature#Article_review. If possible requesting copy edit support. Suggestions for suitable reference sources at Talk:Islamic_literature is also welcome.

Posting message here too for neutrality sake

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Bookku (talk) 08:02, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

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A system of interconnected computers and computerized peripherals such as printers is called computer network. This interconnection among computers facilitates information sharing among them. Computers may connect to each other by either wired or wireless media. 2405:205:1200:D717:3791:C70E:BAA8:D6BB (talk) 16:47, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

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A system of interconnected computers and computerized peripherals such as printers is called computer network. This interconnection among computers facilitates information sharing among them. Computers may connect to each other by either wired or wireless media. 2405:205:1200:D717:3791:C70E:BAA8:D6BB (talk) 16:48, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Peer Editing

Hello fellow editors! I am a student editor, and over the next couple of weeks, I will be going through this article to edit for organization and tone edits. Specifically, I want to work with the history section to clean it up a bit and create a more encyclopedic tone.