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:I've requested a move to resolve the edit warring one way or another. [[User:Yaxu|Yaxu]] ([[User talk:Yaxu|talk]]) 12:42, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
:I've requested a move to resolve the edit warring one way or another. [[User:Yaxu|Yaxu]] ([[User talk:Yaxu|talk]]) 12:42, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

::I think this needs revisitng. No-one in the festival or in government is referring to this as festival of Brexit, and the lead was therefore wrong to say "the festival of Brexit is..." Rather it should be as I now have it, but better still would be to have the article named for the festival that is *actually taking place* and then use a redirect link from Festival of Brexit so that anyone searching for "Festival of Brexit" will find this right away. The article can remain very clear that the original concept was a festival of Brexit, but it makes no sense to have an article about something that does not actually exist. [[Special:Contributions/212.159.115.41|212.159.115.41]] ([[User talk:212.159.115.41|talk]]) 09:20, 8 August 2022 (UTC)


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Naming

The name "Festival of Brexit" is universally used in the press, and it's now clear that the name "Festival 2022" (or, even "Festival-UK-nospace-star-space-2022") is a working title only. See [1], and also their Twitter page as of today, in which the nature of the asterisk as a footnote reference to "working title" is made clear. In the absence of a well-determined official name, I've moved this article back to the WP:COMMONNAME. -- The Anome (talk) 10:54, 24 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

It's all been rebranded, I assume for the last time, so I've renamed the article accordingly. Yaxu (talk) 09:58, 23 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Someone's now trying to remove mention of brexit from the page, that seems unwarranted when all the (independent) press articles are still referring to it as the festival of brexit. Yaxu (talk) 20:28, 6 November 2021 (UTC)[reply]

They've rebranded it again: it's been named variously "Festival of Britain 2022", "Festival 2022", "Festival of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", "FestivalUK* 2022", "Festival UK* 2022" (what's with the asterisk?), and now "UNBOXED: Creativity in the UK". Who knows what it will be called next? "Festival of Brexit" remains the colloquial WP:COMMONNAME: see [2], [3], [4], [5], and many other examples.
There's an interesting theory here that "Unboxed" may be a cryptic reference to Brexit (as in Britain coming out of some sort of "box"), but I'm not sure how much credence to put on that. -- The Anome (talk) 21:03, 25 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]
It seems clear that unboxed is the final name for this collection of events, and all the articles you reference acknowledge the new name, often referring to "festival of brexit" as its former name. So I think keeping UNBOXED as the name of the article is best. However I do think that more people still know it as the "festival of brexit" so that should be more prominent than it now is. Yaxu (talk) 16:51, 2 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I've requested a move to resolve the edit warring one way or another. Yaxu (talk) 12:42, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think this needs revisitng. No-one in the festival or in government is referring to this as festival of Brexit, and the lead was therefore wrong to say "the festival of Brexit is..." Rather it should be as I now have it, but better still would be to have the article named for the festival that is *actually taking place* and then use a redirect link from Festival of Brexit so that anyone searching for "Festival of Brexit" will find this right away. The article can remain very clear that the original concept was a festival of Brexit, but it makes no sense to have an article about something that does not actually exist. 212.159.115.41 (talk) 09:20, 8 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Ref

Icarusgeek Hi, thanks for the efforts in the article. I found an empty ref [6] linking to this website. I think it's a primary source. Should it be removed? ZaniGiovanni (talk) 11:57, 19 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 21 March 2022

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: not moved. No prejudice against renomination in the future if it can be shown that RS usage has shifted away from the present title. (closed by non-admin page mover) Colin M (talk) 15:08, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]


Festival of BrexitUNBOXED: Creativity in the UK – There has been edit warring on this, but I originally moved it to "UNBOXED: Creativity in the UK" because that's its official name. Newspapers often refer to it as "festival of brexit", but not without also giving its real name. There are however articles using it's real name without referring to "festival of brexit". Yaxu (talk) 12:41, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]

All of this is to say that "Festival of Brexit' is (currently at least) by far the most common name, and per WP:COMMONNAME that is all that Wikipedia cares about when naming pages. The official names of things has virtually no baring on what we call it. The name used by reliable sources may shift as the event continues but at current I think it is very clear what the event is primarily known as. Cakelot1 (talk) 13:39, 21 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
Note: Yaxu is the nominator. Thryduulf (talk) 12:02, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
I think I was also the one who originally moved the article to the UNBOXED name that I propose again. However I don't have strong feelings about it, hence only supporting myself weakly. Yaxu (talk) 13:39, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose per Cakelot1. The current title is very clearly the current WP:COMMONNAME to the extent that, as someone who is only peripherally following this, I don't think I even knew the official name and I'm not certain I'll remember it tomorrow. Thryduulf (talk) 12:02, 22 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.