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::I think it probably needs more detail in it in order to constitute an encyclopaedic article. Otherwise it’s effectively just a disambiguation page. Even if just a couple of paras on each stage with a hat note link to the main article. At the moment this doesn’t feel like an article itself. [[User:Tracland|Tracland]] ([[User talk:Tracland|talk]]) 13:57, 13 January 2023 (UTC) |
::I think it probably needs more detail in it in order to constitute an encyclopaedic article. Otherwise it’s effectively just a disambiguation page. Even if just a couple of paras on each stage with a hat note link to the main article. At the moment this doesn’t feel like an article itself. [[User:Tracland|Tracland]] ([[User talk:Tracland|talk]]) 13:57, 13 January 2023 (UTC) |
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:::You are welcome to update the article. If you do not have the necessary privileges, put your recommended changes on this Talk page and I will move them to the article page, unless someone beats me to it. [[User:John Sauter|John Sauter]] ([[User talk:John Sauter|talk]]) 19:36, 13 January 2023 (UTC) |
:::You are welcome to update the article. If you do not have the necessary privileges, put your recommended changes on this Talk page and I will move them to the article page, unless someone beats me to it. [[User:John Sauter|John Sauter]] ([[User talk:John Sauter|talk]]) 19:36, 13 January 2023 (UTC) |
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::::Thanks, if I find time I might give it a go. [[User:Tracland|Tracland]] ([[User talk:Tracland|talk]]) 19:37, 13 January 2023 (UTC) |
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== Soledar == |
== Soledar == |
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Section:December 14 Plural uses "are" Shahed drones PioneeringJäger (talk) 11:11, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- Corrected; thank you. John Sauter (talk) 15:10, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
Here. Stage3: 14 December Three explosions are said to be heard in the centre of the capital city Kyiv, as Ukraine Mayor Vitali Klitschko has claimed that they have taken down 10 Iranian Shahed drones. PioneeringJäger (talk) 11:13, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
- Corrected as part of a larger rewrite; thank you. John Sauter (talk) 15:11, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
January 11: Small typo, the brand of the trucks is "Kamaz" not "Kazam". "This soldier further told the wife that he drove "12 Kazam trucks" filled with bodies." — Preceding unsigned comment added by VladPomar (talk • contribs) 04:16, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
- Fixed. John Sauter (talk) 05:56, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
21 December 2022 speech to US Congress
I have made a page about Zelenskyy’s speech to United States Congress on Wikisource with the digitisation/transcript of the speech at Address by President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy to the US Congress, 21 December 2022. I think a note or some kind of link or reference to the article would be useful to be added to the section for 21 December. 23.16.14.141 (talk) 06:49, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
- While this transcript is interesting, I do not think a reference to it belongs in this article, since Wikisource is not a reliable source. If a reliable source were to publish the transcript, that would be different. Also, if a reliable source publishes the video of the speech the article could link to that. John Sauter (talk) 15:17, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
Missile strikes
Do we need individual paragraphs for every single missile strike that happens? it's sort of bloating the page with the same "Russia launched missiles at Ukraine" "Ukraine claimed to have shot down 40 of 60 Russian missiles fired at Kyiv". at some point it's going to become too much, I'd argue about 50% of this page is missile strikes. Great Mercian (talk) 14:43, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
Lasers
There is no mention of the United States supplying Ukraine with MTHELs (Mobile Tactical High Energy Lasers) which are more effective than Patriots in order to shoot down Russian missiles, or is this being kept secret? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.244.210.117 (talk) 10:12, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- In my opinion, the deployment and use of such a weapon could not be kept secret, so it is probably not being provided. John Sauter (talk) 03:17, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Edit request
Please revert this edit as it removes some important links. -184.56.75.144 (talk) 06:53, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- No. Great Mercian (talk) 12:04, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
- I was unable to identify precisely what edit is being requested. Please describe the links and say why they are important. John Sauter (talk) 15:42, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
10 January
From the article about steel production: "KYIV, Jan 10 (Reuters) - Ukraine's steel production fell by 70.7% in 2022 to 6.26 million tonnes because of Russia's invasion and the destruction of leading steel plants, the steel producers union said on Tuesday.' " I believe that this talking about a year long drop, it isn't specific to 10th January, the article just happened to be released on that day and so should be removed. It would be better suited on the main page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EmilePersaud 13:59, 11 January 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilePersaud (talk • contribs)
My mistake, I accidently posted this on the wrong page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EmilePersaud 14:00, 11 January 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilePersaud (talk • contribs)
10 January
From the Reuters article regarding the 70% drop in steel production:
'KYIV, Jan 10 (Reuters) - Ukraine's steel production fell by 70.7% in 2022 to 6.26 million tonnes because of Russia's invasion and the destruction of leading steel plants, the steel producers union said on Tuesday.'
This is talking about a year long drop in steel and the article was released on 10 January, therefore it isn't specific to that date. The steel didn't drop 70% in one day, therefore I believe this should be removed. It would be better suited as an impact topic on the main page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:EmilePersaud 14:03, 11 January 2023 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilePersaud (talk • contribs)
What is the purpose of this page?
The current page has only two sentences of readable prose which state as follows "On 24 February 2022, Russia launched a military invasion of Ukraine in a steep escalation of the Russo-Ukrainian War. The campaign had been preceded by a Russian military buildup since early 2021 and numerous Russian demands for security measures and legal prohibitions against Ukraine joining NATO." - This isn't really much of a timeline. What is this article seeking to achieve? Tracland (talk) 08:13, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- This page is primarily a gateway to the three timeline pages. It originally contained the full timeline, but was broken into three parts when it became very long. John Sauter (talk) 13:32, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think it probably needs more detail in it in order to constitute an encyclopaedic article. Otherwise it’s effectively just a disambiguation page. Even if just a couple of paras on each stage with a hat note link to the main article. At the moment this doesn’t feel like an article itself. Tracland (talk) 13:57, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- You are welcome to update the article. If you do not have the necessary privileges, put your recommended changes on this Talk page and I will move them to the article page, unless someone beats me to it. John Sauter (talk) 19:36, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, if I find time I might give it a go. Tracland (talk) 19:37, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- You are welcome to update the article. If you do not have the necessary privileges, put your recommended changes on this Talk page and I will move them to the article page, unless someone beats me to it. John Sauter (talk) 19:36, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- I think it probably needs more detail in it in order to constitute an encyclopaedic article. Otherwise it’s effectively just a disambiguation page. Even if just a couple of paras on each stage with a hat note link to the main article. At the moment this doesn’t feel like an article itself. Tracland (talk) 13:57, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
Soledar
I think Wagner claims of controlling all of Soledar, and the UK's statement that most of Soledar is under Russia is worth including. Genabab (talk) 09:07, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- Please specify what text you would like to see, and where, with references to reliable sources. John Sauter (talk) 13:33, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
- 13-Jan: Russian claims of controlling Soledar: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64263119
- 10-Jan: UK says most of Soledar under Russian control, Wagner claims all: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jan/10/head-of-wagner-group-says-his-troops-have-taken-control-of-soledar
- I think these are pretty significant and should be added. Genabab (talk) 17:52, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
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