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::@[[Special:Contributions/121.133.40.84|121.133.40.84]] Firstly, please stop your [[WP:SHOUT]], this is unacceptable behaviour. Secondly, I believed I had already answered all of your repetitive {{small|(read as spam)}} queries pertaining to the same topic in my initial reply today at 07:11 UTC whether you read it or don't like it doesn't change my mind. In addition, Dawon IG post which I had also read it only indicated her thanking Starship and asking fans to support her moving forward nowhere in her IG's post caption indicating she had left WJSN. Thirdly, I echo the same thoughts as what fellow editors had replied above. Lastly, there are clear consensus as of this comment that the status quo remains as it's. '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> [[User:Paper9oll|<span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span>]] <span style="color:#f535aa">([[User talk:Paper9oll|🔔]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper9oll|📝]])</span>''' 10:48, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
::@[[Special:Contributions/121.133.40.84|121.133.40.84]] Firstly, please stop your [[WP:SHOUT]], this is unacceptable behaviour. Secondly, I believed I had already answered all of your repetitive {{small|(read as spam)}} queries pertaining to the same topic in my initial reply today at 07:11 UTC whether you read it or don't like it doesn't change my mind. In addition, Dawon IG post which I had also read it only indicated her thanking Starship and asking fans to support her moving forward nowhere in her IG's post caption indicating she had left WJSN. Thirdly, I echo the same thoughts as what fellow editors had replied above. Lastly, there are clear consensus as of this comment that the status quo remains as it's. '''<span style="color:#f535aa">—</span> [[User:Paper9oll|<span style="background:#f535aa;color:#fff;padding:2px;border-radius:5px">Paper9oll</span>]] <span style="color:#f535aa">([[User talk:Paper9oll|🔔]] • [[Special:Contributions/Paper9oll|📝]])</span>''' 10:48, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:::I didn't shout to you. My opinion is not a spam. I don't quite understand that my fact is called "spam" even though I've proven the truth.
:::I didn't shout to you. My opinion is not a spam. I don't quite understand that my fact is called "spam" even though I've proven the truth.
:::You are just not admitting my fact. Members withdrawl is fact. Isn't Wikipedia a site to write down facts? [[Special:Contributions/121.133.40.84|121.133.40.84]] ([[User talk:121.133.40.84|talk]]) 10:55, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
:::You're just not admitting my facts. Members withdrawl is fact. Isn't Wikipedia a site to write down facts? Have you ever read my sources? [[Special:Contributions/121.133.40.84|121.133.40.84]] ([[User talk:121.133.40.84|talk]]) 10:55, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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Contested deletion

This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because it its pretty accurate and all the infos are correct. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:d41:e34:8c00:c0d2:56f8:6b2e:22fb (talk) 02:11, January 5, 2016 (UTC)

Member's status quo

As stated earlier and sourced in the article, Starship Entertainment only explicitly announced and confirmed that the 3 Chinese members (Xuanyi, Cheng Xiao, and Meiqi) had departed from the group following the expiration of their contracts. However, it wasn't explicitly announced nor confirmed by Starship that Luda and Dawon had departed from the group other than confirming that they chose not to renew their contract with them.

As per English Wikipedia guidelines and policies, we should NOT and must NOT add original research and thoughts and speculation into the article hence until we have actual explicit announcement with actual confirmation, the status quo of Luda and Dawon will remains as it as current member. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 06:15, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

um, i saw the news it's says that "[Exclusive] WJSN Reorganizes Eight-member System...Except for Luda, Dawon, and Chinese members" [1] 121.133.40.84 (talk) 07:02, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@121.133.40.84 It wasn't explicit confirmed by Starship themselves neither does the partially quoted statement from Starship included in the article you provided stating anything of such. Fyi, news articles headline can be misleading and clickbait at times, of which this is one of them as heading doesn't correlate with content. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 07:11, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
even member(dawon) said it on here. translate is on you. 121.133.40.84 (talk) 07:20, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
and some translations from news.
Other Korean members of WJSN, Luda and Da-won, were also excluded from the team as they completed their exclusive contracts with Starship. Sun Eui, Cheng Xiao, and Mi Gi, Chinese members of Yue Hua Entertainment, who worked with WJSN, also automatically terminated their contracts as Cosmic Girls.
(i used translator.) 121.133.40.84 (talk) 07:21, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
There has been no direct confirmation of Korean members Luda and Dawon leaving WJSN despite not renewing. Until then, they will remain listed as members of the group. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 07:38, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
NO. IT IS ALREADY CONFIRMED. Why don't you admit that 2 members of group have left? Even member said it on Instagram. do you want some translations? 121.133.40.84 (talk) 07:56, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
You'll need to provide a source that explicitly states she has left the group. Referring to translations of her letter, I have not found any mention that she has formally left. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 08:25, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Why don't you admit it? A number of sources have already shown that the Chinese and two Korean members have excluded from the group and not renewing their contracts. See the news from [2] I ALREADY SAID ON ABOVE.
Other Korean members of WJSN, Luda and Da-won, were also excluded from the team as they completed their exclusive contracts with Starship. Sun Eui, Cheng Xiao, and Mi Gi, Chinese members of Yue Hua Entertainment, who worked with WJSN, also automatically terminated their contracts as Cosmic Girls. 121.133.40.84 (talk) 09:04, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
That's not in our list of WP:KO/RS. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 09:13, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
THERE ARE NUMEROUS KOREAN NEWS SEE THE TRUTH. [3] 121.133.40.84 (talk) 09:35, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[4] some members of WJSN, a female idol group that marks its 7th anniversary this year, leave the team.

Starship Entertainment said in an official statement on the 3rd, "Recently, eight members of WJSN, Exy, Seol-A, Bona, Soobin, Eunseo, Yeoreum, Dayoung, and Yeon-jung, have been re-signed," adding, "Luda and Da-won have long and in-depth discussions, but unfortunately, they have completed the exclusive contract."

"I would like to express my deep gratitude for the hard work and dedication that Luda and Dawon have shown so far. We respect the choices of Luda and Dawon, and will support and support new activities and the way forward. In addition, the three members of Yuehua Entertainment, Sun Eui, Cheng Xiao, and Mei Ki, who worked with WJSN, will automatically terminate their contracts as WJSN, he said. --121.133.40.84 (talk) 09:37, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's not uncommon that idols leave their respective companies and still remain as members of their groups. But you've been told several times, you'll have to wait. Btspurplegalaxy 💬 🖊️ 09:42, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my goodness. Even I give the fact from reliable source(he gave the WP:KO/RS and i accept it) which you said, you don't accept it. STOP AND ADMIT THE FACT. You make me angry. 121.133.40.84 (talk) 09:47, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As Btspurplegalaxy and Paper9oll wrote, please wait for more information before changing the status of Luda and Dawon. Lightoil (talk) 09:46, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It is clear that the two Korean members have already withdrawn from the group. People who revert the article act like turning a blind eye to the truth so as not to accept the facts. 121.133.40.84 (talk) 09:52, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@121.133.40.84 Firstly, please stop your WP:SHOUT, this is unacceptable behaviour. Secondly, I believed I had already answered all of your repetitive (read as spam) queries pertaining to the same topic in my initial reply today at 07:11 UTC whether you read it or don't like it doesn't change my mind. In addition, Dawon IG post which I had also read it only indicated her thanking Starship and asking fans to support her moving forward nowhere in her IG's post caption indicating she had left WJSN. Thirdly, I echo the same thoughts as what fellow editors had replied above. Lastly, there are clear consensus as of this comment that the status quo remains as it's. Paper9oll (🔔📝) 10:48, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
I didn't shout to you. My opinion is not a spam. I don't quite understand that my fact is called "spam" even though I've proven the truth.
You're just not admitting my facts. Members withdrawl is fact. Isn't Wikipedia a site to write down facts? Have you ever read my sources? 121.133.40.84 (talk) 10:55, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]