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The source cited is in error. Nothing new it that. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.166.117.7|71.166.117.7]] ([[User talk:71.166.117.7|talk]]) 16:37 8 July 2013</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP -->
The source cited is in error. Nothing new it that. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/71.166.117.7|71.166.117.7]] ([[User talk:71.166.117.7|talk]]) 16:37 8 July 2013</span><!-- Template:Unsigned IP -->


:The original reference cited, an obituary appearing in ''The Independent'',<ref name="Obituary: Jack Lord">{{cite news |title=Obituary: Jack Lord|last=Vallance |first=Tom |newspaper=The Independent-UK|date=23 January 1998 |url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/obituary-jack-lord-1140283.html}}</ref> is just flat-out wrong. There is no appearance of Jack Lord nor "John Ryan" in ''The Red Menace'' (the ''Independent'' article claims Lord was "billed as John Ryan" therein). (You can even watch the full movie on youtube<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KWHDNPdoCg</ref>.) Lord starred, as you said, in [[Project X (1949 film)|''Project X'']] (1949) aka ''Red Bait'', and '''not''' [[The Red Menace (film)|''The Red Menace'']] (1949) aka ''Underground Spy''. (Perhaps the ''Independent'' writer confused Red Bait/Red Menace?) Note that this is all just miscellany and not Original Research (violating WP:NOR), because all I am effectively doing is replacing an errant ''Independent'' citation (Red Menace) with the correct iMDB citation (Project X).--[[User:Petzl|Petzl]] ([[User talk:Petzl|talk]]) 17:59, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
:The original reference cited, an obituary appearing in ''The Independent'',<ref name="Obituary: Jack Lord">{{cite news |title=Obituary: Jack Lord|last=Vallance |first=Tom |newspaper=The Independent-UK|date=23 January 1998 |url=https://www.independent.co.uk/news/obituaries/obituary-jack-lord-1140283.html}}</ref> is just flat-out wrong. There is no appearance of Jack Lord nor "John Ryan" in ''The Red Menace'' (the ''Independent'' article claims Lord was "billed as John Ryan" therein). (You can even watch the full movie on youtube<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KWHDNPdoCg</ref>.) Lord starred, as you said, in [[Project X (1949 film)|''Project X'']] (1949) aka ''Red Bait'', and '''not''' [[The Red Menace (film)|''The Red Menace'']] (1949) aka ''Underground Spy''. (Perhaps the ''Independent'' writer confused Red Bait/Red Menace, two similarly sounding, anti-Communist films that were both released in the same year?) Note that this is all just miscellany and not Original Research (violating WP:NOR), because all I am effectively doing is replacing an errant ''Independent'' citation (Red Menace) with the correct iMDB citation (Project X).--[[User:Petzl|Petzl]] ([[User talk:Petzl|talk]]) 17:59, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
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July 8, 2013

Jack Lord was in Project X. It was his first role. It is a different film from the Red Menace. The Red Menace is not known as The Red Menace aka Project X. Project X was released in October of 1949. The Red Menace in August of 1949. The source cited is in error. Nothing new it that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.166.117.7 (talk) 16:37 8 July 2013

The original reference cited, an obituary appearing in The Independent,[1] is just flat-out wrong. There is no appearance of Jack Lord nor "John Ryan" in The Red Menace (the Independent article claims Lord was "billed as John Ryan" therein). (You can even watch the full movie on youtube[2].) Lord starred, as you said, in Project X (1949) aka Red Bait, and not The Red Menace (1949) aka Underground Spy. (Perhaps the Independent writer confused Red Bait/Red Menace, two similarly sounding, anti-Communist films that were both released in the same year?) Note that this is all just miscellany and not Original Research (violating WP:NOR), because all I am effectively doing is replacing an errant Independent citation (Red Menace) with the correct iMDB citation (Project X).--Petzl (talk) 17:59, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ Vallance, Tom (23 January 1998). "Obituary: Jack Lord". The Independent-UK.
  2. ^ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KWHDNPdoCg

"Jack Lord": How did Lord acquire his stage name?

For most actors, there is usually a sentence explaining the actor's stage name. Eg, when they took the new name, under what circumstances, and how the name was relevant to the actor. Petzl (talk) 16:40, 18 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]