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Comments appreciated at Talk:List of plays adapted into feature films#Need for article split.4meter4 (talk) 18:56, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Laird Mackintosh

I noticed that the article for Laird Mackintosh, who played the title role for the last performance of The Phantom of the Opera on Broadway, needs some improvement. Any help with sourcing would be appreciated. Best, Thriley (talk) 02:56, 5 June 2023 (UTC)

Input request

Members may wish to comment here as some musical theatre actors have been the recipient of this award. The outcome could also impact other categories on awards in the arts by setting a precedent. All opinions welcome. See Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 July 1#Category:Kennedy Center honorees.4meter4 (talk) 19:16, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Category discussion

Just discovered this discussion: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2023 June 18#Category:Musical television specials. Project members may wish to comment.4meter4 (talk) 01:27, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Input request on article title

Please comment at Talk:Burlesque Opera of Tabasco#Article title.4meter4 (talk) 03:24, 13 August 2023 (UTC)

Tony Award for Best Musical

Tony Award for Best Musical - This page has become unreadable with listing all the producers, especially more recent entries which have long lists of producers. Any thoughts on removing this? It is all linked in on the official Tony Website. Mark E (talk) 11:25, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

@ Mark E The benefit of having lists on wikipedia is having lists with wiki-links which allow you to go to encyclopedia entries on people, places, things, etc within those lists. An external list doesn't interlink with wikipedia's content so I would not support the removal of this list. Further, our project doesn't have the authority to make this kind of decision unilaterally. Removing/deleting content falls under the purview of WP:AFD. The list is a bit bulky with the producers listed towards the bottom, but that is not a valid reason to remove the list which clearly passes WP:LISTN and would easily survive an AFD. Perhaps some sort of reformatting would help organize the content more easily and solve the complaint about bulky reading? Best.4meter4 (talk) 11:45, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

I'm in no way suggesting the removal of the article. Merely, removing the producers and reverting back to Book/Music/Lyrics as seem in this earlier revision - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tony_Award_for_Best_Musical&oldid=1159716664 Mark E (talk) 13:59, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Ah, thanks for clarifying. I have no strong opinion either way. Technically, the producers are the nominees. They are the ones who receive the award. That said, the average reader isn't likely to be looking for the producers. We could simply limit the producer names to those with articles and make it clear in our list description that we are intentionally not including all producers, only those with wikipedia pages.4meter4 (talk) 14:14, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

It is out of control. If you bring up a Talk page proposal at that article, mention it here, and we can all comment there and try to reach a consensus. 4meter's suggestion of only listing blue-linked producers and then citing the link to the Tony Awards page with the full list might be a good compromise. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:46, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Even listing only blue linked producers would have meant for an extremely bloated list. I have reverted to previous format. I'm looking at this from the view of a general reader (ie, me) who will want to be able to easily access the information without having to scroll over sometimes 30+ producers per production. Mark E (talk) 11:31, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

So the edit war continues. Again, if you start a Talk page discussion, a consensus can be reached and enforced. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:07, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

Discussion opened Talk:Tony_Award_for_Best_Musical#Listing_Producers Mark E (talk) 10:42, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

Great new source (at least new to me)

Hi all. I just discovered a treasure trove of material at the Retrospective Index to Music Periodicals (1760–1966); a website dedicated to making historic music journals available to the public. These are particularly useful for this project for reviews of early musicals and operettas. If you have interests in classical music, opera, etc. it is an even better resource for those content areas. Best.4meter4 (talk) 12:08, 18 August 2023 (UTC)

Fatter table headings?

Someone is going through all the musicals articles and doing this. I think it is the wrong thing to do, because it makes these already overlong tables even longer. The previous format is more efficient. But I'm not going to fight this by myself. Can we get a consensus on this, and if others agree with me, we can put them all back together. Otherwise, I'll just grumble and accept it. -- Ssilvers (talk) 18:56, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Much prefer the previous format with the place then year. I’m all for simplicity and easily seeing the information needed. Mark E (talk) 10:17, 24 August 2023 (UTC)