Talk:Easter

The premise of the entire page is wrong.

I don't know your protocols.

I am a Christian, and things mentioned on this page seem almost totally Catholic (and maybe some Orthodox religions, and Lutheran churches go part way on these subjects), but not Christian at all.

Most Christians do not celebrate Passover, Pentecost (those are Jewish holidays), Lent, or Ash Wednesday. We don't know Pasha, whatever that is. We don't fast, and we don't do penance. Again, these are Catholic things, which the Bible does not tell us to copy. In fact, we were told in the beginning to not celebrate days, especially not Easter or Christmas. (Galatians 4:9 But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage? 4:10 Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.) Instead, Christians celebrate Jesus every day.

It would be much better to just call Easter a holiday celebrated by Catholics and some other faiths but leave most Christians out. Even some of the pictures seem Catholic or Orthodox. Many Christian churches don't even have a cross so that we don't start worshipping that. We also do not worship Mary or any saints (we Christians are all saints). Christian baptism must be by immersion. Catholics stopped doing that hundreds of years ago because one man was too sick to get in the water. We also don't worship a pope nor confess to a priest. Also, the Church is the bride of Christ. That means Christians, not nuns. Christians and Catholics are like oil and water.

If you have questions, I am ChristianLady5151 ChristianLady5151 (talk) 03:26, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

While you are perfectly entitled to it, your concept of what a Christian is seems a particularly narrow one. Wikipedia takes the broader position expressed in our article on the Christian Church. HiLo48 (talk) 03:46, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

My concept of what a Christian is comes from the New Testament. I didn't make it up. And, yes, it is narrow. "The way" is narrow. Matthew 7:14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. ChristianLady5151 (talk) 03:56, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

This article maintains the neutrality requirement of Wikipedia. It covers the wide range of Christian responses to the festival, including non-celebration. However, most branches of the Christian church do make some form of celebration. Based on the population figures given in the article Christianity, that's at least 90% of Christians. This talk page is not the place to soapbox a particular strand of Christianity. Neutrality is expected here as well. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:40, 27 February 2024 (UTC)

There is very little on the page that is neutral. What caught my attention in the first place is the overwhelming amount of Catholic terms. ChristianLady5151 (talk) 04:37, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I'm not Catholic, and most of that is very comprehensible to me, brought up in the Protestant tradition in Australia. You must know that Catholics regard themselves as Christians too, as do all Protestants and Orthodox members. Wikipedia cannot write as if they're not. HiLo48 (talk) 04:51, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I think you miss my point. Catholics may consider themselves Christians, but Christians do not consider themselves Catholics. Catholics do everything differently than Christians that are not Catholic. Absolutely everything. When I was young, the only church where we were vacationing was Catholic. I got in line to take communion. The priest asked me if I was Catholic. When I said no, he pushed me backwards. That was not a Christian way to treat me, and it demonstrates just one of the differences. We even have very different Bibles. ChristianLady5151 (talk) 05:08, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I fully agree that the behaviour of a lot of people who call themselves Christiaan doesn't satisfy my idea of what Christian should do, but in Wikipedia we go on what reliable sources say. Most say Catholics are Christians. HiLo48 (talk) 05:15, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

I am not trying to imply that they are not Christians, in that they do believe in Christ. But all of their teachings are different than "just plain" Christians. The page implies that we do all the things they do - far from it. "Just plain" Christians do not want to be "accused" of doing things Catholics do and we believe to be sinful. We should not all be lumped together. ChristianLady5151 (talk) 05:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

Type on Infobox

To @Medusahead:: Template:infobox holidays requires all holiday infoboxes to have a type. Is there a particular reason you removed "Christian" from the type when undoing my latest revision? Zoozoor (talk) 21:08, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

(The ping didn't work): When I removed "Christian", the lines

"Observed by: Christians

Type: Christian"

were written one below the other, which looked both odd and superfluous. This is why I removed "Chrisian". In fact I didn't recocognise this as a type of infobox but it looked as a type of feast to me.--Medusahead (talk) 09:11, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I understand. I've added the longtype "Religious, cultural" which hides the type and prevents that redundancy. Thanks for replying. Zoozoor (talk) 18:10, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

"Easter dinner" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Easter dinner has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 March 27 § Easter dinner until a consensus is reached. Rusalkii (talk) 18:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)

Easter

What is Easter 43.245.57.237 (talk) 22:15, 30 March 2024 (UTC)

Ishtar

I think you forgot to add it’s pagan origins. This is 100% bias & should’ve been fact checked before posting. 2601:58B:4600:6900:867:6ADC:310F:8189 (talk) 03:01, 31 March 2024 (UTC)