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The result of the move request was: '''page moved'''. [[User:Andrewa|Andrewa]] ([[User talk:Andrewa|talk]]) 01:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC) |
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[[:Striped beakfish]] → {{no redirect|Barred knifejaw}} – [https://fishbase.se/summary/6532 FishBase] uses "barred knifejaw," as does the [https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.aspx?SpeciesID=2902 USGS], [https://www.papahanaumokuakea.gov/education/creature_spotted_knifejaw.html NOAA], [https://www.inaturalist.org/guide_taxa/315692 iNaturalist], even [https://animalcrossing.fandom.com/wiki/Barred_knifejaw the Animal Crossing franchise's English localizations]. Justification for {{yo|Delirium|p=}}'s move from "Barred knifejaw" to "Striped beakfish" back in 2006 was that the latter was used in FishBase, ITIS, and "most other references" - while [https://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt#null ITIS] still does (likely because Wikipedia does), the only ref cited in the article that uses "striped beakfish" is <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>, which is dead. [https://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt#null <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>] uses the scientific name, but ⅔ of its own references use "barred knifejaw" - the remainder uses the Latin name, and not "striped beakfish." [[Oplegnathus peaolopesi|Every]] [[Oplegnathus conwayi|related]] [[Oplegnathus robinsoni|species]] with a page on Wikipedia has their vernacular name given as "_____ knifejaw," as well as the [[Oplegnathus|genus and family]] as a whole. Google Scholar shows [https://www.mdpi.com/2311-5637/10/1/49 only one paper] that uses "striped beakfish" in the title, compared to [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C22&q=%22barred+knifejaw%22&btnG= 14] which use "barred knifejaw" in the title. All of this ''despite'' Wikipedia naming this article "striped beakfish" for nearly 20 years. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAuR5bkIlQ Maybe we're the ones who are out of touch.] — <span style="font-family:Oxygen">[[User:Kodiak Blackjack|Kodiak Blackjack]] ([[User talk:Kodiak Blackjack|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Kodiak_Blackjack|contribs]])</span> 22:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC) |
[[:Striped beakfish]] → {{no redirect|Barred knifejaw}} – [https://fishbase.se/summary/6532 FishBase] uses "barred knifejaw," as does the [https://nas.er.usgs.gov/queries/FactSheet.aspx?SpeciesID=2902 USGS], [https://www.papahanaumokuakea.gov/education/creature_spotted_knifejaw.html NOAA], [https://www.inaturalist.org/guide_taxa/315692 iNaturalist], even [https://animalcrossing.fandom.com/wiki/Barred_knifejaw the Animal Crossing franchise's English localizations]. Justification for {{yo|Delirium|p=}}'s move from "Barred knifejaw" to "Striped beakfish" back in 2006 was that the latter was used in FishBase, ITIS, and "most other references" - while [https://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt#null ITIS] still does (likely because Wikipedia does), the only ref cited in the article that uses "striped beakfish" is <nowiki>[3]</nowiki>, which is dead. [https://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt#null <nowiki>[1]</nowiki>] uses the scientific name, but ⅔ of its own references use "barred knifejaw" - the remainder uses the Latin name, and not "striped beakfish." [[Oplegnathus peaolopesi|Every]] [[Oplegnathus conwayi|related]] [[Oplegnathus robinsoni|species]] with a page on Wikipedia has their vernacular name given as "_____ knifejaw," as well as the [[Oplegnathus|genus and family]] as a whole. Google Scholar shows [https://www.mdpi.com/2311-5637/10/1/49 only one paper] that uses "striped beakfish" in the title, compared to [https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C22&q=%22barred+knifejaw%22&btnG= 14] which use "barred knifejaw" in the title. All of this ''despite'' Wikipedia naming this article "striped beakfish" for nearly 20 years. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYAuR5bkIlQ Maybe we're the ones who are out of touch.] — <span style="font-family:Oxygen">[[User:Kodiak Blackjack|Kodiak Blackjack]] ([[User talk:Kodiak Blackjack|talk]]) • ([[Special:Contributions/Kodiak_Blackjack|contribs]])</span> 22:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC) |
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You know instead of outright deleting this you could actually help and fill in this article.
- Redirect it to the latin name of the fish. This is a valid topic, even if the article is wanting for information. Not a speedy delete in my opinion.--Gaff talk 22:44, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
- The scientific name also turned up blank in wiki. 67.35.124.182 22:46, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
- See the interwiki'd Japanese article on this fish. The implication is that "Striped Beakperch" is the commoner common name, but "Barred Knifejaw" is a perfectly valid place for this if I'm reading the manual of style correctly. Haeleth 22:55, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
Merge proposal, 23 May 2024
Proposing Tsunami fish be merged into this page. It doesn't seem to be notable enough for an article; it fails WP:PAGEDECIDE and WP:10YT for sure, as it hasn't resurfaced in the press since the brief media coverage of the event in 2013.
— Kodiak Blackjack (talk) • (contribs) 22:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
Requested move 23 May 2024
- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: page moved. Andrewa (talk) 01:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Striped beakfish → Barred knifejaw – FishBase uses "barred knifejaw," as does the USGS, NOAA, iNaturalist, even the Animal Crossing franchise's English localizations. Justification for @Delirium's move from "Barred knifejaw" to "Striped beakfish" back in 2006 was that the latter was used in FishBase, ITIS, and "most other references" - while ITIS still does (likely because Wikipedia does), the only ref cited in the article that uses "striped beakfish" is [3], which is dead. [1] uses the scientific name, but ⅔ of its own references use "barred knifejaw" - the remainder uses the Latin name, and not "striped beakfish." Every related species with a page on Wikipedia has their vernacular name given as "_____ knifejaw," as well as the genus and family as a whole. Google Scholar shows only one paper that uses "striped beakfish" in the title, compared to 14 which use "barred knifejaw" in the title. All of this despite Wikipedia naming this article "striped beakfish" for nearly 20 years. Maybe we're the ones who are out of touch. — Kodiak Blackjack (talk) • (contribs) 22:53, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.