Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2024 July 15

July 15

Template:Fourteenth Doctor stories

• Template:Fourteenth Doctor stories  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Tenth Doctor stories  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:Fourteenth Doctor stories with Template:Tenth Doctor stories.
The template is unnecessary given that the three episodes plus specials page all link to each other through inline links and with {{Doctor Who episodes|N13b}}. Though with the inclusion of The Power of the Doctor a merger was proposed with Template:Tenth Doctor stories. As the two incarantions are pretty linked and both played by David Tennant. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 21:14, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

• Weak keep: They are still two distinct incarnations. The point about inline links is arguably a non-issue (seeing as navboxes are, y'know, there for ease of navigation so people don't need to dig around the article for said inline links). Granted, the similarity between this and {{Doctor Who episodes|N13b}} is more of a concern. However, I'd argue that keeping these templates separate would be better for futureproofing (in case any more notable 14th doctor content gets made), better for organization (as the content for each incarnation is categorized away from the other incarnation's content), and a bit more user-friendly (as the 14's content won't get buried under the mountain of 10's content, and it avoids the potential ugliness of splitting one navbox between two incarnations which itself is likely to be a bit of an organizational headache). 🔥HOTm̵̟͆e̷̜̓s̵̼̊s̸̜̃🔥 (talk・edits) 10:21, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

  I second the above. While there isn't much content in the Fourteenth Doctor's box so thus far (the 3 episodes are listed in other navigational boxes so I get the concern), but more content might come along in the future. Bigwhofan (talk) 21:51, 13 July 2024 (UTC)

  Update an article for Desination Skarro was made. Questions? four Olifanofmrtennant (she/her) 09:52, 14 July 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 00:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Template:1874 Canadian federal election/Drummond—Arthabaska

• Template:1874 Canadian federal election/Drummond—Arthabaska (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

I couldn't find sources to add confirming the information Boleyn (talk) 16:10, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

keep, I clicked on the link in the sources section of the template, and found the election results. Frietjes (talk) 20:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Template:They aren't

• Template:They aren't (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Too specific, plus it can be done by just {{they are|Example}}n't. Currently not used. Nardog (talk) 13:06, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Izno (talk) 13:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Delete: Per Nardog, "didn't, haven't, weren't" would be the same issue. There is no need for these negative forms. Nobody (talk) 14:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Template:2022 Hawaii House of Representatives elections in 25th District

• Template:2022 Hawaii House of Representatives elections in 25th District (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Unused template. Article for this election has election boxes as part of the article. Not needed. WikiCleanerMan (talk) 12:49, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Template:UK Shadow Cabinet

• Template:UK Shadow Cabinet (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Redundant to {{Sunak Shadow Cabinet}}. Also still transcluded on a lot of previous Labour shadow cabinet members. --woodensuperman 12:12, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

I think I'd rather see {{UK Shadow Cabinet}} become a redirect to the current instance (so, right now, {{Sunak Shadow Cabinet}} than it be deleted.

Either way, clearly it should be rapidly removed (by bot? by AWB?) from politicians where it is no longer appropriate. — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 12:23, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't think I see the benefit of this, as it leaves it open for more instances of out of date transclusion in the future. --woodensuperman 12:29, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Keep: Move the content of British shadow cabinets template into this template (UK Shadow Cabinet was created earlier than British shadow cabinets), and merge the templates altogether. —— Eric Liu_（Talk） 12:49, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Those two templates cover very different topics. {{UK Shadow Cabinet}} shows the current UK shadow cabinet (i.e. the same topic as {{Sunak Shadow Cabinet}}), whereas {{British shadow cabinets}} lists all of the different shadow cabinets in the past. I have no objection to discussing renaming {{British shadow cabinets}} in the future if this one is deleted, but that isn't what's being discussed here. Reading between the lines, I don't believe you are actually advocating a "keep" !vote for this specific template. --woodensuperman 12:58, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Template:AbuseFilter

• Template:AbuseFilter  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
• Template:Edit filter  (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)

Propose merging Template:AbuseFilter with Template:Edit filter.
There is no need to have 2 separate Templates for this. The differences could be added as parameters. Nobody (talk) 11:22, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Fine as long as you add the link to the filter log into the target. Guy (help! - typo?) 12:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Guy I think that should be easy with something like {{#if:{{{2|}}}| ({{plain link|url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:AbuseLog/?wpSearchFilter={{{1}}}|name=log}})}} Nobody (talk) 13:24, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm sure. I didn't want to edit the original, but if anyone with template-fu can do it, please fill your boots. Guy (help! - typo?) 09:44, 16 July 2024 (UTC)