Talk:Call of Duty 3

Weapons List

I may be wrong, but I havent found a Panzerfaust in game, only Panzerschrecks. I also haven't seen an M2 flamethrower or scoped M1 Garand and thought that the scoped variant of the Gewehr 43 had been removed. Please correct me if I'm wrong. >FrozenFood< 14:45, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

You are right. I would like to see a flamethrower and panzerfaust, but known have been found. Same with scoped M1. I don't play multiplayer, so I don't know if they are there (just a question, are they?). User: S II 087 March 31, 2007

no there not there. and scoped garands were very rare and wernt issued often and flamethrowers were barley issued so there not ther.

Development platforms of COD3

I heard of it being made for all next-gen consoles, but a PC version is not being made. Activision has specifically said so. It should be taken off the list of platforms it's available for. My info may be wrong though and the circumstances here may change later on, but as it currently stands not even the COD3 section of Activisions' website lists it as being available for the PC. Vgamer101 15:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

It was added by the same person who added some language to the main text about it being available for the PC, which was later removed, but the stuff in the infobox must have been overlooked when it was removed. I removed PC from the infobox. Qutezuce 04:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

I see the change. Thanks for the remove. I was just a bit puzzled by this because of Activision's own words. Just keep this in mind though, Activision has a tendency not to be very capable of promoting PC games. The TV commercials for Activision products such as Tony Hawk's American Wasteland, GUN, and the Spider-Man 2 movie game didn't show the icons for a PC version despite the fact that they were available for the PC. PC and console versions of GUN and Spider Man 2 were released simaltaneously on both consoles and PC. The THAW commercial was made for when only console versions were available, but they could have just done a simple edit to it to include the PC CD-ROM icon. Also just keep in mind that a possibility of a PC version might happen anyways. Activision has already done the same thing in the past with THAW and True Crime: New York City. PC versions were made a couple months after their console counterparts but that new info was never added to Activisions' site. They had Aspyr Interactive handle the PC porting of those titles and that is probably why they still aren't listed despite being available for a few months already. So chances are that Activision may say that they aren't making a PC version of COD3, but there is the possibility that they may have others do it for them, despite not not listing it, and would be pulling a last minute announcement on all of us. If you ask me it's wrong and shows their lack of PC game marketing and publicity skills. Vgamer101 16:31, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

To be honest, I'm more interested in wether or not they will include PunkBuster with the first version of CoD3 - should it be released for PC - than if it is released for the PC platform at all.

Cheating is a very real and substantial problem for online gaming and I don't like it, and it still amazes me that they released CoD2 PC without proper cheat protection. PC players had to wait until v1.2 before there actually was anything beyond 'pure' and the killcam to be able to fight cheats, and I wonder what will happen if they decide to release it for PC.

Should this happen, I think it's appropriate to add a 'controversy' title at the end of the article and elaborate on these concerns. -- MiG 15:50, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

To be honest, I dont think us PC users are missing much. It doesnt look like there is a whole lot different. Replaced the P08 with the P38, put back in the FG42 and took out the scoped G43. Aside from the Canadian/Polish missions (which dont appear to have any unique weapons) it looks like more of the same. Maybe Activision will put together a real sequel for the PC, as this game may as well be called Call of Duty 2 1/2. user:pzg ratzinger

To add to that, I've found several hackers on COD2 and it bothers me very much. It gives me nightmares you see? And whenever I see a hacker I tickle his belly button

Another note of interest. The "original" developer of the COD series Infinity Ward is NOT obviously producing this next in the series sequel. It is possible that this sequel just might be a spin-off in the series, since Infinity Ward may have plans for a PC sequel of CoD. http://www.gamespot.com/news/6149040.html?q=Call%20of%20Duty%203%20PC. So it might be of interest to include such a part in the article. I may do so myself if no one does later. However I am not sure how at the moment to write it up and integrate it appropiately with the article ;). - HL

Microsoft and Sony must have given money to activition not to release the game for PC. I can see PC games have been declining. I hate console. --SkyWalker 08:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

What do you mean? Microsoft has been promoting Windows Vista and has done many things to focus on PC games for Windows, working with publishers to specifically brand them as "Games for Windows" and they even struck a deal with Ziff Davis to rebrand the Computer Gaming World magazine as an official Games For Windows one. Clearly they have a lot riding on games for the PC platform, so your allegations are ridiculous. As for Sony, they have also heavily invested in the PC gaming sector with Sony Online Entertainment. --RoyalFool 01:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Was there ever any statement as to why there's no PC version? As a big fan of the CoD series (and not being a console owner), I too was disappointed by the decision.

Where are the British and other allied countries, in the other Call of Duty's you could be British and Russian aswell as American, why is there only 2 choices of countries?

You play as American, British, Canadian and Polish. Nicht Nein! 08:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

Being Developed AND Not Developed?

The Article Page states that CoD3 'will also be released for the PlayStation 2 and Xbox and also the PC' in addition to the 3 Next-Gen Consoles.

But a Sentence Later it states 'Unlike Call of Duty 2, Activision doesn't plan to release a version for the PC or GameCube which has angered many fans of the game'

The second part is right. It's not being developed for the PC, although I don't know about the GameCube. bob rulz 00:34, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

You all may want to see this: http://pc.ign.com/objects/750/750597.html

It appears that a next Call of Duty game will be made for both consoles and the PC, but will be made to be different games from one another. So would this constitute allowing the PC version back on there or not? Vgamer101 03:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

That is old new from 2005, and nothing has been said about it since. Thunderbrand 03:23, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

COD3 Platform Update

I recently went to the COD official site and looked at the News & Updates section. It said in the Oct. 27 news that Another COD game was going to be introduced to the PC. The title is "Call of Duty: Warchest". Sadly, the game is only the compilation of COD, COD:United Offensive, and COD2. It spans some of WWII most epic battles.

Soniqe 13:12, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Do you have sources or link?. Well what is the point of playing old. Down with activision. --SkyWalker 08:33, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Online with Wii?

"Wii online play via Nintendo Wi-Fi connection has been confirmed but will not be available until 2007."

Would someone care to validate this statement? I have looked all over online, and have found nothing to confirm it. In fact, I have been reading that Activision said there WON'T be any online. Proto Dude 01:54, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

And didn't the likely maximum number of players change from 16 to 8 today? 71.196.112.182 04:15, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Well I see that someone took out that bit about online. What I did then was put in the overview that the Wii version will not have online, nor offline multiplayer. Proto Dude 02:36, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

I found this on ebgames.com "TEAM-BASED MULTIPLAYER WITH VEHICLES: Intense multiplayer functionality has been built from the ground up. Up to 24 players can battle it out as a variety of player classes, including riflemen, infantry, scouts, and others. Multiple-occupancy vehicles let you coordinate attacks with friends, driving while they fire a mounted machine gun from the turret. The game's wide range of vehicles include tanks, jeeps and motorcycles with sidecars."

So there is online play... Im changing the wiki page.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Peoplez1k (talk • contribs) .

Please sign your comments next time. As for what you saw on EB games, that is a generic description, and does NOT pertain to each game specifically. The Wii version does not have online, OR multiplayer. The part that you took out says that BASED ON REVIEWS there was no multiplayer. Plus the Nintendo.com page says it's 1 player as well. If someone would like to revert Peoplez1k's edit, feel free. I would, but I don't know exactly how. Proto Dude 02:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Checked gamespot and it sais there no multiplayer either, so I fixed it myself. I cant believe theyd be so stupid to not put multiplayer on this game, multiplayer is what makes this game, without it its just metroid fusion or w/e that shitty game is called... signing is retarded and wtf is the time in UTC? its 12:30est when I fixed this somone else add it.Peoplez1k 20 November 2006

Changes made to muilt-player game types

I have made changes to War, for their are 3 points maps and 5 points maps along with removing bridge builder game type as for there no such thing in this game.--Sinper409 10:04, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Release Date?

What's the Release date for the PS2 version?--KojiDude ^{(Contributions)} 04:40, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

It isn't on the PS2.--SUIT^{What!? 42} 05:53, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

According to GameFaqs, it was released on the PS2 on 11/07/06. =/ Proto Dude 11:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone know if CoD3 on the 360 was intentially planned for release in EU on the armistice weekend? Doesn't really seem like it's in good taste IMHO...

French Campaign

Can this really be considered a critique since you never actually liberate Paris in the game, just Chambios (sp?)?

Campaigns

• Can someone please add some information about the campaigns in COD 3 ASAP! Thank you very much!

Call of Complaints

I really don't get activision for not building a PC Platform I mean come on! Surely they know if COD3's gonna be a hit for gamers then they'll surely release a PC Platform wouldn't they? I've been really disappointedn lately. But I've done a lot of thinking lately and I came up with a hypothesis. Maybe they're making it up to console users because the first two releases, COD and COD2, were primarily about PC Platforms. Still, they should release one for the PC, not everyone can afford a PS2 or PS3 these days you know. Especially if you live in a third world country and can't afford to buy something that expensive.

I Hope someone will find this useful. This is just one person's opinion

Soniqe 11:05, 23 November 2006 (UTC) Anonymous

Take it easy dude. Call of Duty 4 Will come soon and it is not going be other world war 2. The microsoft and sony wants all game developers to only makes games for consoles only not for PC. I feel they are getting paid by MS and sony. SkyWalker 02:51, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Why would Microsoft pay the developers not to make a game for a PC? After all, Microsoft made the PC. *someone42* 20:10, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Desert eagle?

The page lists having a desert eagle as a usable weapon. Is this true? Seems anachronistic, at best, horribly untrue at worst. Verification or deletion 12:05, 01 december 2006

No who ever added this is retarded User Eskater11 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Esskater11 (talk • contribs)

While keeping in mind that editors should be civil; there isn't much point in calling someone else a retard four months after the initial action. --Scottie_theNerd 03:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

i totaly agree i was outofline calling someone retarded. (Esskater11 02:35, 28 April 2007 (UTC))

Anti tank weapons

The title of this category should be changed as a Flamethrower is not an anti-tank weapon. Alternately, the Flame Thrower could be removed form this category

Pvt vs Pte

I have changed all the Canadian Privates to Pte as that is the Commonwealth spelling and Pvt is the American spelling I am unsure about Polish BritBoy 22:54, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Truth Or Rumor?

It seems that a new COD is being developed, namely COD4... But is there proof? Is there any link that COD4 is currently being made?? I've visited the COD4 article and it says that there are platforms for Wii, PS3, but I didn't see any PC platforms...

There could be a possiblity that a COD4 IS being made but for now It seems to be a rumor since few or no one knows about this...

Response Is Needed

Soniqe 09:41, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• As far as I know, there are two Call of Duty games currently in development. Activision has not confirmed any of them, although it is expected that Treyarch will work on the Xbox 360, PlayStation 3 and Wii versions of the game and Infinity Ward will work on the PC version. Joystiq has this information, but again, Activision has not confirmed any of it. Infomanager 22:40, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism

Is this level of vandalism common for a videogame article? It seems that every few hours there is a racist or otherwise inappropiate comment posted. Infomanager 06:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah i noticed that someone posted something strange under campiagn. O_o —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.190.43.214 (talk • contribs).

Unverified Information?

The following template is on the article;

"Some information in this article or section has not been verified and may not be reliable. Please check for inaccuracies, and modify and cite sources as needed."

Is there any current information that could be considered unverified, or could the tag be removed? Madgreatgrandpa 19:42, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and removed it since there was no immediate response. I wouldn't personally consider the page to be in significant doubt, but anyone's free to return it [the tag] if they believe otherwise. Madgreatgrandpa 23:51, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Champs Description

I'm a Silver Member currently, so I'm not going to get a look-in at this map for another week, if possible, could someone please but some sort of description of the map's physical characteristics in the relevant area, I'm quite interested myself, as I'm yet to hear any real details about it. Thanks in advance to any who do it. Madgreatgrandpa 23:39, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

CVG Assessment

This is in response to the listing of this article on the CVG Assessment page. Oh, where to start. I'm leaving this as a stub class, as with the gamecruft removed all that would be left would be a short stub. Other than that though... The lists/tables of maps, vehicles, weapons, classes, characters, and point values(!) should be deleted outright. This isn't Gamefaqs. There is no need for 3/4 of the article to consist of gameguide information, as WP:NOT a game guide. The game modes table should be converted to a paragraph describing the gameplay modes, in a "Gameplay" section, with some information on how the single player campaign goes, and maybe ome info on vehicles and such. All of the other paragraphs need to be rewritten. The lead should say what this article is about- all it says now is that it's a game, and that it been released for these consoles, only it take about three sentences to get it all out. The campaign section needs to say that it take place in WW2- if you didn't know that already, you would be completely lost. The awards section needs to be fleshed out into a full reception section, and a development section would be nice as well. To summarize, make this article look more like Call of Duty 2. While that article isn't quite ready for GA class yet, it's a lot better than this one. I'm sorry if I sounded kind of jerk-y in this, I'm just trying to say it like it is. --PresN 07:08, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

Played Character

I changed the played characters to italicised.... just to make them stand out more

hope no one has a problem with it, if you do just change it back.... not really a big deal or what not

Ancientanubis 21:15, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Champs description

Champs is a sort of country level where snipers can climb on houses and shoot to the field.there are no usable veichles.the nazis start at a church in war and the americans i think start at a manor.there is a barn with 2 entrances and good for support units.there was meant to be another map by now but its not there.can someone tell me why. Peacemaker456 16:47, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Pistols

I have not seen a single pistol in the SP campaign on the Wii version yet it's on the extras weapon's list Ripperhugmeguy 11:51, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

The weapon list has been removed, but the pistols are available only in multiplayer. --Scottie theNerd 05:17, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

The germans (when there are wounded) can shot twice with their pistol in SP. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skip B. (talk • contribs) 12:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

Cleanup

Part of me finds it hard to believe that we've let the article grow into an unreadable page of pointless lists. I've done a huge cleanup of the article in order to make the article at least resemble the article. Below are a summary of changes:

• Removed the character lists. Most characters aren't important enough to mention as dot points. However, the campaign section should be expanded to cover what happens to the characters during the game. I haven't done this yet, but someone else can take over.
• Removed map list. Having a map list is a trivial piece of information that is of limited use to readers who do not play the game. It might be interesting, but it's a list that presents limited information in difficult-to-read form.
• Removed class list. Wikipedia is not a game guide; I've summarised some abilities in the Classes section, but there is no need to make a full list of classes in the game.
• Removed redundant sections. Some of the content overlaps with previous sections. I have merged and/or deleted some sections so that we don't have a cluttered page of repeated content.

Editors should seriously keep in mind that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a game guide. Articles are written to inform readers about what Call of Duty 3 is, not how to play it. Don't bother arguing that it's useless; that's what GameFAQs and [StrategyWiki are for, and if you would like to contribute game-specific information for other players, you might want to look there instead. For people thinking of editing the article or restoring some of the information, I ask that you refer to the following Wikipedia guidelines and policies so you know what content is appropriate: WP:OR, WP:NPOV, WP:V, WP:TRIVIA, WP:NOT, WP:ILIKEIT. Also refer to the Computer and Video Game Project guidelines found [Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer and video games/Article guidelines here], and take note of the CVG Assessment in COD3's Talk page.

Before anyone reverts the changes, please discuss them here. I have removed content that is clearly against the aforementioned Wikipedia guidelines and salvaged as much as possible to merge with the existent prose sections. --Scottie theNerd 05:16, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't think all the lists you removed are "pointless" or arbitrary repositories of information which is of no use to non-COD3 players. Maybe scoring is not that useful. Ditto punishment. Single player characters may not add much value unless they are meaningful protagonists. On the other hand, outline of missions gives an idea where the game is set and a slight idea on game length. And if you retain the classes list, information on weapons and vehicles should be retained too. Chensiyuan 01:14, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

As I said above, such information can and should be incorporated into readable prose form in existing sections rather than every class or every weapon listed. I have summarised some of the class information in its respective section, and I don't see much probably in stating all the classes, but a list and the equipment that comes with it is not necessary. Note that precedents include Battlefield 2, which was recently cleaned up of extensive class lists, Battlefield Vietnam and Battlefield 1942, which no longer contain class and weapon lists, as well as Call of Duty, Call of Duty 2, Call of Duty: United Offensive and Call of Duty 2: Big Red One, which have been cleaned up and streamlined for easier access and less gamecruft. As someone has already inserted a rudimentary class list, if no one objects I will rephrase it into prose and remove the list. As for the mission list: incorporate that into the plot. If you want to note length, include the number of missions; don't list them and their locations. --Scottie theNerd 06:13, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

I put a good deal of time into the map list and making sure the recent map controversies had a good deal of informative resources behind them so that people could be more informed about those controversies. CoD3 has a major multiplayer base and pretty much 80-90% of the discussion of the game is on the multiplayer aspect and the maps. I hate to see this very informative list removed, it just weakens the article in my opinion. PhilMT311 06:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

As I pointed above, such information is mostly original research and/or unverified. Just because you've spent effort into writing something up does not mean it belongs on Wikipedia. The map list is only useful to players, not to readers in general, and is therefore a relatively insignificant piece of trivia. Consider moving the map list into a gaming Wiki, such as StrategyWiki. --Scottie theNerd 12:12, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

• Yeah, and going by that logic, all the episode guides to numerous television shows may as well as be clipped to just include a synopsis and nothing more; as there are obviously numerous wikis on the web that pertain to television, no sense in including that kind of information to the "average" reader of Wikipedia who may not "need" the information. Seriously, there's no point in keeping out the information you're arguring against, it's just stupid not to include it. Shadowrun 09:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Mentioned in the introduction, Call of Duty: Roads to Victory should not be associated with Call of Duty 3. They are nowhere related and therefore removed from the article.

Obviously you've never even taken a look at the wiki for Final Fantasy, or any popular game series with lots of information that has been included. Not sure what the logic behind clipping Call of Duty is, but the wikis on this particular series are sparse on information given its obvious popularity. Shadowrun 10:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Introduction Edit?

Call of Duty: Roads to Victory , mentioned in the introduction, is not related to Call of Duty 3 and therefore should be removed. >FrozenFood< 14:48, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

diffrence between versions

is there any diffrences in the version like ps2 and xbox 360? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Falcon866 (talk • contribs) 16:46, 18 February 2007 (UTC).

Except for the graphics though--Falcon866 16:46, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

Xbox Live Multiplayer Mode

I don't have Xbox Live right now, and I can only play in Single Player mode, which I've beat. Now, what I'm curious about is about the Multiplayer Mode only available for Xbox Live (I have an Xbox). Can you play multiplayer mode on Xbox Live with the original Xbox, and also, are there some different missions or differences in the missions on multiplayer mode compared to the single player mode on Xbox?

JustN5:12 03:16, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

This isn't the place to ask. I should point out that Multiplayer is competitive and not co-op; there are no multiplayer missions. --Scottie theNerd 12:50, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

I know that, but what I was trying to ask is what are the key differences between the missions or gameplay in Single Player mode and the so-called "Multiplayer" mode.JustN5:12 21:36, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

As I just said, this isn't the place to ask for that sort of thing (ideally, that's what the article itself is for), and I already answered your question. --Scottie theNerd 05:56, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

Gameplay

I think this article should also contain a gameplay section. This would mainly contain information on the health system, because it is different from the other two console games. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.161.208.194 (talk • contribs).

The health system in COD3 is identical to that of COD2. --Scottie_theNerd 12:09, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Good luck getting it included since there are several people who have voiced opinion against including any information beyond that of a preview article, such as weapons and enemy categorization, citing there isn't a need for such information. I argue "who care if there isn't a need?" It's not as if an abundance of information for a game like this is a bad thing. Call of Duty is a series of games, last time I looked; one only has to look to series like Deus Ex, Thief, and System Shock to see there has been gobs of information in the same vein that has been excluded from this wiki. It's just stupid not to include it. Shadowrun 10:00, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

This wiki needs expanding

I know there are some prunes here who think a lack of information is a good thing, but this article is lacking in information all-around. This thing used to have lists of weapons and I believe even a game play section. Why not include all that and more? "But Mr. Shadowrun, Wikipedia isn't an encyclopedia for just game enthusiasts, it's not information needed for people who aren't gamers!" And my answer is a resounding "so???" Anyone who says that is too information to include has obviously never seen the other frivolities Wikipedia is famous for, such as television episode guides and lists of all the creatures and worlds for Doctor Who. And obviously these kinds of people forget that other game series, such as Final Fantasy and Deus Ex (which has fewer games in the series overall than Call of Duty, yet CoD is more popular...) has larger Wiki's with more information. So why not include more information in this one? I say a reversion should be performed on this wiki, at least back to an earlier edition that included what I described. Shadowrun 10:26, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a game guide. In-depth information regarding the game can be found on StrategyWiki, GamerWiki and GameFAQs. Wikipedia's focus is on relating subjects of interest to real life - in the case of games, discussing their development, features and impact on the community. Game articles do not go into detail about specific features of the game unless credible sources indicate that they are indeed notable enough for mention. If other articles contain more fancruft than this article, then those articles should be cleaned up. Gears of War is a good example of a game article that is written according to the above criteria.

It is not of Wikipedia's interest to keep the Call of Duty 3 article to a "preview". Rather, no editor has made the effort to find sources that discuss the game without going into the realm of game guides. Improve what you can if you have the references for it, but refrain from including needless lists of game tips and items. A general guidelines to game articles can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games. --Scottie_theNerd 14:21, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

The Black Baron

I was just curious if anyone knew anything more about the Black Baron (Baron von Richter?). I cannot find any information on him online. I assumed he was a real person since Call of Duty tries to follow real events, but was he? --Magneto10

I'm not sure where you got that from. Call of Duty does anything but follow true events - they create cinematic experiences through high production value and references to popular culture. --Scottie_theNerd 17:24, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

I know they do not follow every exact thing that happened, but I'm pretty sure the battle names are real (obviously the Normandy invasion was a true event). Anyway, I wish they had given a little more on Richter in the story if he was made up; if he was real they could have left it to us to look up more on him. --Magneto10

As Scottie stated the Call of Duty series is not based on real people and events. The German tank commander featured in the game is likely an allusion to Michael Wittmann, a very famous German tank commander. UGA Dan 22:49, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Character List

Can somone write up a list of all the charcters in the game with their descriptions? ESommers 00:55, 7 May 2007 (UTC)