Talk:Reggie Jackson

I think this is wrong

"This Series marked the first time that two teams from the State of California played each other for a sport's World Championship (other sports organizing by geography, East and West, makes this possible only in baseball)"

The NBA has their conferences by geography. But the NFL does not. So, two teams from California can play each other in the Super Bowl.

In fact, the San Francisco 49ers defeated the San Diego Chargers in a Super Bowl in the mid 1990's.

{{editprotected}} Not really sure how to use this template (I'm just gonna write it at the front of my post), but since the page is protected I can't make this minor edit. From the "Later Career" section: "His accomplishments include winning the both the regular-season and World Series MVP awards in 1973."

Obviously there is an extra the. Clemenjo 03:25, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

You used it correctly, and the change has been made. — Carl (CBM · talk) 04:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

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A's or Yankees?

There has been a longstanding debate over the info box colors (Yankees or A's) that should be used for Reggie. He played more years on Oakland, won more titles (3 to 2) as a member of the A's, and finished his career on Oakland in 1987. The article also states that he initially intended to go into the Hall of Fame with an A's cap but was bitter at the organization for firing him as a coach in 1991 and promptly reconciled with Steinbrenner and subsequently went into the HOF as a Yankee. (this was before the HOF took the decision away from the players). Then again, he is famous as Mr. October for the Yanks, even though he played less years in NY with less overall stats. Personally, I think the only fair resolution is to retain the photo of him as a Yankee but to show OAK colors, that way both teams are represented. Thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pascack (talk • contribs).

I would support having the Yankees photo with the Oakland infobox colors. -- P.B. Pilhet 22:32, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Yankees colors because his hall of fame plaque has Yankees, and when you see pictures of him he usually is wearing a Yankee uniform--Yankees10 23:02, 24 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10

I think he was more well known as a Yankee, plus he retired as one so I vote for Yankee's colors. Momusufan 23:26, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

He actually retired as a member of the A's, so I don't know what you are talking about. We're just going to keep it with OAK colors and the NY photo for now, so both sides are represented until this is properly resolved. pascack 24:47, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, let's leave both teams represented until the issue is resolved. -- P.B. Pilhet 00:03, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

yeah, he did retire as a A but who cares who he retires with its who hes most known for playing for--Yankees10 00:45, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10

Well you keep talking about Jeff Nelson retiring as a Yankee. But he had three different stints with Seattle and pitched more years for the M's, so I can say who cares that he signed a publicity stunt contract to retire as a Yankee at the beginning of the season? It goes both ways. Would like to see some unbiased votes here (going by your username, it is no surprise you vote Yankees) And by the way, the 3-time consecutive World Champion A's teams from 1972-74 were much more dominant than the 1977-78 Yankees. Reggie put up better stats and played more years for those A's teams, that is how most non-New Yorkers mostly remember him. Do you think it is a coincidence he was going to choose an A's cap for his plaque until he was upset that he got fired as an A's coach after 1991? Pascack 01:02, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Pascack

It has nothing to do with me being a Yankee fan, I agreed with the Dave Winfeld being Padres colors, and also I think Carlton Fisk should have Red Sox colors, and I plain old HATE the Red Sox, the whole point is Jeff didnt didnt sign with the Mariners, he signed with the Yankees meaning he wanted to be remembered as being a Yankee, he had the chance probably to sign with the M's. And what it all comes down to is I think you just hate the Yankees, because of the changes you have made to Yankees players, changing Craig Nettles to padres colors, when he is clearly known for his time with the Yanks--Yankees10 01:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees

Retired players should not have colors, period. Obviously there are some professional athletes that would have a clear-cut choice for colors. However, there are others that might be impossible to agree upon. Therefore the sake of consistency, retired players should not have colors. They are not under contract with teams anyway, there is no need for them.Chris Nelson 01:15, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I might think you are a moran Chris Nelson, but I actually agree with you, it was the same problem with the retired player football infoboxes, I dont think there should be color either--Yankees10 01:18, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10

He started his career with the Athletics, ended his career with the Athletics, won more World Series titles with the Athletics. I think that the Athletics should represent his colors because he wore Oakland's colors more when playing.

But if you really wanted my opinion on colors, I would say that all non-current athletes should have neutral colors in their infoboxes. I said that originally, but I'm saying it later than Chrisjnelson because I was forced into an edit conflict. But I would've said that first if it weren't for the edit conflict. --Ksy92003(talk) 01:17, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Pascack, the current infobox is probably best (A's colors, Yanks photo). Just my $0.02. - Masonpatriot 01:18, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I'd be happy with neutral colors (even if it does get rid of a favorite aspect of making infoboxes) if it means that we can end this pedantic dispute over 12 characters in an infobox. -- Transaspie 01:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I think we should bring this to the WikiProject Baseball/Players to see if there is a way we can get neutral colors like the LightBlueSteel (or whatever the color is) in the football infoboxes into the MLB retired infoboxes--Yankees10 01:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10

Yankees10 asked me to comment here so here are my thoughts: the colors used should reflect the team colors of the team with which the player played the most games for (in this case - Oakland). This is based solely on games played and keeps subjectivity out of the discussion. However, there are two other possibilities. 1) All retired players are moved to neutral colors (not likely) 2) In the case of players in the HOF, if wikipedians (as in the community as a whole) agree that the players colors should reflect those of the team the player is associated with in the HOF, then that would be fine. It however, needs to be addressed on a larger scale and should probably include the baseball, basketball, football, and hockey communities. //10:56, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

That's a fair argument. Reggie was a mercenary. He jumped from team to team. His greatest fame was likely with the Yankees. Remember, he was "the straw that stirred the drink" there... and his plague shows him in a Yankees cap. [1] Baseball Bugs 11:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Here's another straw, er, possibility: If his cap disagrees with the stat on who he played the most games with, then use neutral colors. Or how about this for out-of-the-batters-box thinking: Include the colors of all his teams. A rainbow coalition, as it were. Baseball Bugs 11:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

First of all - it is GRAIG Nettles, not Craig Nettles. If you are a Yankee fan, you should know that. Second, Jeff Nelson's signing with the Yanks was a publicity stunt by Steinbrenner, nothing more, nothing less. In Reggie's case, I think the best compromise is OAK colors with the Yankee photo. That way - it is split equally for both teams since he played more years and won more titles in OAK but is remembered well with the Yanks too. As for his HOF plaque, the article itself states he planned to wear an A's cap but only chose Yankees after the A's fired him as a coach in '91 and Steinbrenner rehired him.

I might be remembering incorrectly, but I'm thinking some or all of those colors were even in place in K.C. (as was Reggie) before the A's moved to Oakland. Baseball Bugs 12:46, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Reggie Jackson played his first season with the Kansas City A's before they moved to Oakland - same green and yellow colors. As for Reggie's infobox, let's take an objective look at his career:

A's: 1,346 games, 756 runs, 1,228 hits, 269 HR, 776 RBI, 145 SB, 3 World Series titles

Angels: 687 games, 331 runs, 557 hits, 123 HR, 374 RBI, 14 SB

Yankees: 653 games, 380 runs, 661 hits, 144 HR, 461 RBI, 41 SB, 2 World Series titles

Orioles: 134 games, 84 runs, 138 hits, 27 HR, 91 RBI, 28 SB

He actually played more games with the Angels too than he did with the Yankees. While some of his Yankees exploits are well-known, I don't know how you can put NY above OAK colors here, as he played twice as many games in Oakland and put up better overall stats. As a result, I'd have to vote for the A's here. Joeidaho 13:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

NOTE: The above user (Joeidaho) was created very recently (June 25th) and his only contributions are to the Jeff Nelson article and this page. Thus, he may be an illegal sockpuppet of one of the other users on this page. I strongly recommend that his opinion(s) be disregarded; no offense Joeidaho if you are a legitimate user, but we have to be very careful about sockpuppets trying to turn the arguments in their favor. -- P.B. Pilhet 15:38, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Joeidaho doesnt count because, I am pretty sure it is Pascack, just using a different name, like his 5 other IP addresses he uses, and the Nettles thing was a mistake, I tried to change it but there was edit conflicts so I said screw it after a while, and its not how many games they played for a team its which team hes most known for playing with, and I believe its the Yankees--Yankees10 15:41, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10

Yeah, Joe, I'd recommend that you just stay out of this discussion, unfortunately. Even if you aren't a sockpuppet, you're just too new and the circumstances are not in your favor. Sorry. -- P.B. Pilhet 15:49, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

No problem - I didn't mean to offend anyone as I am a friend of Pascack's and he told me to create an account so I can vote on his causes (he said Yankees10 was sending private messages out to various users to vote Yankees so he was trying to recruit the same). I will stay out of it all the same, but I hope my statistical research can help in the argument. Joeidaho 16:10, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

They werent private messages, hello, we need more than 2 people to vote--Yankees10 16:30, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10

First of all, I don't know how you can be considered unbiased based off your screen name. Second, you obviously sent messages to all your Yankee buddies to try and scew the poll, so I I contacted some of my friends. Look at the stats, he was an Oakland A for twice as long as he was a Yankee and he won more titles in Oakland too. Pascack 17:06, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I have no clue if any of those people are Yankees fans, I just asked if they wanted to contribute to the poll--Yankees10 18:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10

I realize this one is a tough call, but I think the current approach (colors and photo) works; however, given the HoF plaque, I wouldn't argue strongly against Yankee colors, either. (Note: I'd definitely choose the Mariners in Nelson's case.) MisfitToys 23:11, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

I know I'm late, but here is the breaker for me on the colors. HE IS EMPLOYED BY THE YANKEES! He may have been more successful and been a better player in Oakland, but he earned his nickname for what he did for the Yankees, he went into the HOF a Yankee, and he is still a member of the organization. Yankee colors all the way, although I'm fine with the current approach. Soxrock

Maybe there's some way to make the colors fade-in/fade-out from one team to another. Baseball Bugs 22:23, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

He is more famous as Mr. October, as a Yankee. He's in the HoF as a NY Yankee. If he works as a consultant for Mr. Steinbrenner, than he still works with the Yankees organization. If he was bitter with the organization that fired him, the A's, to not wear their cap in the HoF, than I think he'd be bitter about having A colors on wikipedia. 208.168.232.150 22:08, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Note that in his last year, Jackson was a teammate of Mark McGwire's in Big Mac's rookie season. McGwire also played his final season with a rookie Albert Pujols. On the same subject, should McGwire's main association be with the A's or Cardinals?

Look at Jimmie Foxx. He played more years with the A's than with the Red Sox. But he's mostly remembered as a Red Sox player. So, enough with the "he's played longer" or any biased. What team will is he, and will he for the years coming, be best remembered playing for? Mghabmw 16:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Rickey Henderson was an A. I agree with his colors being A colors. I just don't believe that Reggie shouldn't be a Yankee. I love Rickey and all. And McGuire should be assoc. with the Cards. 208.168.233.183 16:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Why are the infobox colors of the A's and not the Yankees?

This is a fine example of how many edits are not good edits, and how compulsive editing leads to the deteriorating quality of articles. First off, go to this link [2], and you'll see from the HoF website, Jackson was inducted as a Yankee. Next, have a look at this picture I took on March of 2007 of Reggie Jackson [3], and you'll see that he attends Spring Training games wearing a Yankees hat. Maybe he spent the most time with the A's, but he's best known as a Yankee. As an ardent loather of the Yankees, I'm doing this more to see Wikipedia do the right thing, than serve as a shill for the evil empire. So someone, anyone, change the colors to Yankee colors. Googie man 18:51, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

He played twice as many years on the A's, put up better overall stats on the A's, won more titles with the A's, and retired as a member of the A's. Pretty much a no-brainer there. The reason he wears a Yankee cap at spring training is because he currently works as a consultant for George Steinbrenner. He was originally planning to go into the Hall of Fame with an A's cap but was angry at the organization when they fired him as a coach after the 1991 season. Still, his career is much more reflective of the time spent in Oakland. 192.234.99.1 21:31, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

that dude is totally wrong he is remembered by the Yankeees, not the A's

hes in the hall of fame as a Yankee dumbass, not a A

He is more famous as Mr. October, as a Yankee. He's in the HoF as a NY Yankee. If he works as a consultant for Mr. Steinbrenner, than he still works with the Yankees organization. 208.168.232.150 22:06, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

This 208.168.232.150 has changed colors of various individuals to Yankees. He is a biased Yankee fan. As for the HOF cap, Reggie has stated publicly that he originally wanted to wear an A's cap in the Hall of Fame but ultimately chose Yankees because he was upset he was fired by Oakland as a coach in 1991 and Steinbrenner gave him a high-level consulting job in the NY organization in exchange for the cap.Pascack 11:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Before you open your mouth, I'm a Marlins fan. He chose to go down in history as a Yankee, give him that honor here. 208.168.238.39 02:34, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

"Reggie has stated publicly that he originally wanted to wear an A's cap" - do you have a source? Nonetheless, even if what you say is true, that doesn't negate the fact that Reggie was inducted as a Yankee. Googie man 15:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

"Snub spurred Reggie" Per USA Today:

Outfielder Reggie Jackson, who finished with 563 career home runs, played 21 seasons, including nine with Oakland and five with the Yankees.

He had planned to go in as an Athletic, but after Oakland fired him as a batting coach in 1991 — they told him it was to save his $65,000-a-year salary — he opted to go into the Hall as a Yankee.

"I got left out in the cold," Jackson says. "I was deserted. I was living in Oakland and wanted to be a Hall of Famer in the community. A black hero. A person of color. But I had no roots."

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/hallfame/2001-08-02-focus.htm

The dude is in the hall of fame as a Yankee, not a frickin A

Look, he may have wanted to be an A, but does that matter? He went in a Yankee. Alot of people think of him as a Yankee when I ask (Reggie Jackson, A or Yankee?) so I believe that either the colors should be Yankees OR, as Wahkeenah suggested earlier, maybe have half A's colors and half Yankee colors Soxrock 11:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Facts are facts:

A's: 1,346 games, 756 runs, 1,228 hits, 269 HR, 776 RBI, 145 SB, 3 World Series titles

Angels: 687 games, 331 runs, 557 hits, 123 HR, 374 RBI, 14 SB

Yankees: 653 games, 380 runs, 661 hits, 144 HR, 461 RBI, 41 SB, 2 World Series titles

Orioles: 134 games, 84 runs, 138 hits, 27 HR, 91 RBI, 28 SB

Pascack 13:13, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Yes, facts are facts. With this the case, then you'll have no problem with the fact that RJ is Mr. October because of his World Series appearances as a Yankee, he's in the HoF as a Yankee, and is best known as a....Yankee! Googie man 17:30, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

The Hall of Fame cap argument is garbage. He is wearing a Yankees cap because George Steinbrenner gave him a plum job in return for the cap. It means nothing - if the A's never fire Jackson in 1991, then he goes in with an Oakland cap. Also, if the HOF was making the decisions then instead of the player, they would have overruled him and forced him to wear an Oakland cap (like they did with Gary Carter when he wanted to go in as a Met, but he played twice as many years with Montreal).

In cases like this, you have to be objective and realize that not only did Reggie win more titles in Oakland (3) than New York (2) but he also played twice as many years. He also finished his career with Oakland. You'd have to say the Oakland A's were most representative of his overall career.

OK, so when Roger Clemens is inducted into the HoF, and he goes in as a Yankee (which he will), you'll be changing the colors of his infobox to the Red Sox? Googie man 22:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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There is absolutely ZERO way that Roger Clemens goes into the Hall of Fame as a Yankee. He is without question going in as a Red Sox. The guy is tied with Cy Young for all-time wins as a Red Sox and he pitched twice as many years in Boston as New York. I believe the Hall has already publicly commented on this that it will be Boston cap after Clemens through his hissy fit a few years ago about wanting a Yankees cap. Pascack 22:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

OK, let's remember this about 6 to 7 years from now, because I'll bet you, Roger goes in as a Yankee. I agree entirely with what the comment below that the precedent is to follow the player's preference. Googie man 15:22, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

I would be willing to bet my life's fortune that Roger Clemens wears a Red Sox hat in the Hall. There is absolutely no way that he goes in as a Yankee. Why would he? He is still most remembered as a Red Sox. He won more Cy Youngs in Boston than NY. He recorded both 20-strikeout games with Boston. He won 192 of his 350 games in Boston. And he has played 13 of his 24 seasons in Boston. This argument is beyond assenine and is far less debatable than Reggie Jackson. At least with Jackson, I can understand why people might think he is best remembered for his 5 years in New York even though the majority of his career numbers were recorded in Oakland. With Clemens, he has played far more years in Boston, his best years were with Boston, and he is the Red Sox' all-time co-leader in wins. This is a no-brainer and I can guarantee you that even if he wants to go in a Yankee, the Hall would overrule him there. Pascack 22:53, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

You had me engaged in the debate until this: "This argument is beyond assenine". Your statement and your attitude is what's beyond aSInine, aSInine, not assenine. Your argument certainly does not show good faith or anything positive towards *my* argument or intentions, and using such harsh derogatory language is not, has not, and never will be, accepted practice on Wikipedia. Furthermore, for an argument that is "assenine", you're certainly putting a lot of time and effort into disproving it. Furthermore, I think you'll at least admit that Clemens and the city of Boston left on each other on fairly acrimonious terms. Do you *really* think that Clemens will want to go into the Hall representing not only a team, but a city, who considers him a traitor, and have vociferously said as much? Do you *really* think that MLB and the HoF will ignore the wishes of someone as influential as Clemens. So anyway, I'm done with this, and you. If you want Oakland colors on WP, have at it, I have bigger things to care about in life. I strongly suggest you clean up your attitude with future debates on WP, and for God's sake, get a dictionary, or pay attention to the spell checker when editing, at least. Googie man 13:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

First of all, your argument is outdated. Clemens left Boston on bad terms 11 years ago and his issue was mainly with former GM Dan Duquette. Duquette had long since left the Red Sox organization and in the past few years, Clemens has maintained a good relationship with Theo Epstein and has said to have been very touched by the reception Boston fans gave him the last time he pitched in Fenway Park. If he was so upset at the Boston franchise, then why would he have publicly stated that the only 3 teams he would consider playing for in 2007 were the Astros, Yankees, or RED SOX? He was willing to come back to Boston this year, but ultimately, the Yanks needed pitching more and offered him the most money. I can guarantee you if Boston offered him the most money, he'd be pitching at Fenway right now. And finally, IT IS NOT GOING TO BE CLEMENS' CHOICE REGARDING THE HALL OF FAME CAP! In some cases, where the argument is close and could go either way, such as Carlton Fisk with Boston/Chicago, or when Piazza gets inducted - Mets/Dodgers, I can see the Hall going with whatever the player chooses, since both franchises are strong representations of his Hall of Fame career. However, in Clemens' case, this is not a toss-up. If he retired the day after he left Boston 11 years ago, he was still going to the Hall of Fame. His career is overwhelmingly best represented by his time in Boston, and if he tries to express preference for a Yankee cap, the HOF will overrule him (like they did when Gary Carter wanted to wear a Mets cap - the situation is no different here). This shows that Clemens no longer bears a grudge against the Red Sox.

http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2006/04/04/clemens_makes_visit_to_clubhouse/

Pascack 13:44, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

From your user page - "This is your last warning. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, as you did to Reggie Jackson, you will be blocked from editing. Stop changing Team Colors in the info box, it is considered vandalism. Momusufan 19:50, 24 June 2007 (UTC)". Not good. I'd say what little credibility on the issue you have to begin with, has now been completely negated. Please go to MySpace and disturb the baseball fans there. Googie man 15:33, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

The HoF has the overall decision on what cap they wear. The player request is only that, a request. The cap they choose is representative to the players' career.

Example, Wade Boggs wanted to wear a Tampa Bay hat.

Time in a team has NOTHING to do with it.

Which team did the player earn to be in the HoF?

Mghabmw 02:24, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

- I simply believe that Pascack is biased against the NY Yankees. 63.130.198.38 02:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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I am starting to agree with that...

Look at Jimmie Foxx. He played more years with the A's than with the Red Sox. But he's mostly remembered as a Red Sox player. So, enough with the "he's played longer" or any biased. What team will is he, and will he for the years coming, be best remembered playing for? Mghabmw 16:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Rickey Henderson was an A. I agree with his colors being A colors. I just don't believe that Reggie shouldn't be a Yankee. I love Rickey and all. 208.168.233.183 16:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Hall of Fame

The HOF currently exercises its right to choose the cap, but prior to the Wade Boggs controversy, they never enforced this rule and strictly went with whatever the player chose. It is likely if Reggie was inducted today, that they would have forced him to go in with an A's cap based on the fact that he played twice as many years with them, and would not have made the HOF based on his 5 years with the Yankees alone.http://en.wikipedia.org/skins-1.5/common/images/button_hr.png

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The reason they stopped him from wearing a Tampa hat is because he was payed by the Devil Rays if he wore the hat. Time has nothing to do with it. He earned HoF numbers in the Red Sox. Jackson became a star in NY. 208.168.225.59 23:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

"I didn't come to New York to be a star, I brought my star with me." - Reggie Jackson. He was already a star when he went to NY. Also, by the time he went to the Yankees, he was already a WS MVP, AL MVP, AL RBI Champ, and AL Home Run champion twice in the years he was in Oakland. --Rabbethan 02:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

He was a star when he came to New York, and left a superstar. Googie man 02:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

He was a superstar in Oakland. Pascack 13:48, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Recall people's memories of Reggie Jackson. Is he an A or an Yankee?

And enough with the Yankee bias/anti-bias. Mghabmw 15:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

If you go to the Reggie Jackson webpage, the photos are of him as a Yankee. He currently sells only an autographed home Yankee jersey. There is an A's bobblehead. Mghabmw 15:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

All this is another example of how rogue, abusive users hijack Wikipedia. This is why we lose good editors. The Visigoths are taking over Rome. Googie man 19:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)

Look at Jimmie Foxx. He played more years with the A's than with the Red Sox. But he's mostly remembered as a Red Sox player. So, enough with the "he's played longer" or any biased. What team will is he, and will he for the years coming, be best remembered playing for? Mghabmw 16:00, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Rickey Henderson was an A. I agree with his colors being A colors. I just don't believe that Reggie shouldn't be a Yankee. I love Rickey and all. 208.168.233.183 16:08, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Panamanian?

What, if at all, is Reggie Jackson's connection to Panama? His page is linked to the Panamanian-Americans category page, but he's from Pennsylvania and his father's Puerto Rican. There's no mention of Panama anywhere in the article. Misterdoe 17:20, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Reggie Jackson - Game 6 of the 1977 World Series

I was at Game 6 of the 1977 World Series and saw each of Reggie's home runs. The article is wrong in saying that the first home run was high-arcing. The first and second home runs were carbon copies of each other - line drives into the lower right field seats.

The article misses something else. Reggie homered in his last at bat in Game 5. That, together with his performance in Game 6, means that he hit four consecutive home runs on four consecutive swings of the bat.

He's a Yankee

I think Reggie should be recognized as a Yankees, because he was inducted into the Hall of Fame as A Yank. Therefor I think the colors on the page shoud be those of the Yankees.

Again - he was only inducted as a Yankee because the Hall didn't overrule players' decisions back then. If he was inducted today, he would go in as an Athletic because he played twice as long in Oakland with better career stats. He wore a Yankee cap only because he was upset with Oakland management for firing him as hitting coach and Steinbrenner gave him a plum senior management job in return for the Hall cap. Pascack 19:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Again - you have a history of poor behavior on Wikipedia. User page blanking, as you've done, is the refuge of Wikipedia scoundrels. Why, therefore, should we take your word about Jackson and Steinbrenner? If you can offer a credible source for this, then maybe you can gain some credibility and restore your tarnished reputation. I for one, remember the days when reputation mattered on Wikipedia. Googie man 20:31, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

The Hall has ALWAYS had the decision on which team a player is inducted under. In this case, they agreed with Mr. Jackson. They cannot accept that a player wears a cap on the merit of getting a job - it has to match their career, or else Wade Boggs will go down in chapters of history as a Tampa Bay Devil Ray. But he's Red Sox'er and Mr. Jackson is a Yankee. Mghabmw 03:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

The reason for why he was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame as either a member of the Athletics or the Yankees is immaterial. We can't debate whether or not he should be in the Hall as an Athletic or a Yankee. We don't know why he was inducted as a Yankee or why he wasn't inducted as an Athletic. That is completely immaterial to which colors he should have in his infobox. ––Ksy92003(talk) 03:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Excellent point, particularly about why he was inducted as a Yankee. The only thing any of us know as fact is that he is in the Hall of Fame as a *Yankee*. The colors should be returned to Yankee colors, and the troll holding us all hostage banned forever. 13:44, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

The Hall has ALWAYS had the authority but they never began enforcing things until after the Wade Boggs controversy. Pascack 16:39, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Obviously they didnt find it necessary in the case of Reggie Jackson. 208.168.227.147 17:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

"And it is obvious you dont like the Yankees considering you vandalized the colors on Don Mattingleys infobox, keep it up and you will be BANNED for good--Yankees10 19:35, 22 June 2007 (UTC)Yankees10"
Does that look familiar pascak? you have something against the yankees and your opinion should be nulled. you changed don mattingly's page, what's your excuse for that. he was a yankees lifer and is the bench coach, why change his colors? 208.168.227.147 17:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Changing the colors of Mattingly, who is about as much of a Yankee as Ruth, Gehrig, DiMaggio, or Mantle? Pretty bush league. Asinine is really the more appropriate word. Now how much longer are we going to allow this to go on? Googie man 00:14, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

The page change mentioned above. 208.168.227.147 17:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

It seems like there's one major objector to his colors being navy blue and grey against multiple supporters.
Reggie was a good Athletic and even part of the "greatest team ever" - the '72 Oakland A's as Homer Simpson put it, but people seem to remember him best as a New York Yankee, as Mr. October, as someone who was there when "the Bronx was burning" regardless of him playing more years with the A's. He even associates himself with the Yankees with hats and uniforms!
I'm feeling kind of hijacked myself.
Mghabmw 13:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

And that certain someone has a anti-Yankee history. Changing Donnie baseball's colors...
I think this is interesting...
208.169.94.8 13:47, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

"16:39, 22 June 2007 Pascack (Talk | contribs) (13,624 bytes) (undid revision by Yankees10, I agree - he deserves to be shown as a Padre. Carter has worked with the Mets for the past 10 yrs and Winfield is still with the Padres now.) (undo)"

That's funny, Reggie works for the Yankees now as a consultant. He's in the hall of fame as a Yankee, but someone wants A's colors due to the years played in KC/Oakland. But Dave Winfield played more games in NY than in San Diego, but he should be in Padres colors. Hmmm... Double standard? Mghabmw 03:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

You people need to understand that players aren't judged by how many games they played for a team. If a player batted .082 for 2 years with a team, 0 HR and 2 RBI, then was traded and hit .164 with 2 HR and 4 RBI for a couple weeks, using the logic that you have given based on time of playing with a team, you'd say he should have Team #1's colors, even though he put up better numbers with Team #2. There are other things to take into consideration. Roberto Clemente had tremendous numbers. He would've been elected into the Hall of Fame based on those numbers alone. But after his accident, when he was elected into the Hall of Fame it was because of his humanitarian efforts. He could've been the worst player on the face of the Earth and still gotten in the Hall because of the circumstances. You see? There are plenty of situations you need to take into account. And in Clemente's case, pure statistics aren't proof enough. Additionally, it makes no difference who Reggie Jackson is better known for playing for which team, because that's our opinion (WP:COI). Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and we only have encyclopedic content here on Wikipedia. And this debate that you guys are having about which colors should be on the article are your opinions. You can't place your opinions into Wikipedia's mainspace because it's WP:COI, but most importantly POV. Ksy92003(talk) 04:26, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

It's your opinion that the whole debate is about opinion, so doesn't that fact entirely negate your article? Furthermore, please display a more respectful tone when attempting to engage a debate on WP. You haven't been editing WP long enough to assume such a tone of condescending authority. Lastly, your argument with regard to Roberto Clemente is somewhat specious. Almost all major league players do some sort of charity work. Do you think that Thurman Munson would've been elected to the HoF if his plane crashed on his way to a children's hospital? Googie man 11:45, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Roberto Clemente was not elected to the Hall of Fame due to his humanitarianism efforts, he was elected because he had 3,000 hits and was one of the top hitters of his era. He would have been elected to the HOF had he been a total ass, but the reason they skipped his 5 year waiting period was because he was killed due to his humanitarian efforts. But had he not been a Hall of Fame player, he would not be in the Hall of Fame. Regardless, I don't know what the hell that has to do with this issue. Your analogy to the .164 player is pretty bad, to tell you the truth. Even if you take out Reggie's 5 years with the Yankees, he still likely makes the HOF based off his years with Oakland and California alone. The guy was an MVP-caliber player in Oakland and led the 1972-74 A's dynasty (which was one of the most charismatic and infamous teams of all-time) to three straight World Championships. The fact that he played 11 years in Oakland to 5 in New York is just the tie-breaker. Pascack 13:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

And Winfield played more years in NYC and put up better numbers, but you still insisted to keep Padre colors. Mghabmw 14:59, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

He played about 70 more games for the Yanks than the Padres. Reggie played more than twice as many years for the A's as the Yankees.Pascack 15:08, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

$$Green$$ and $$Gold$$ are the colors of the Yankees. Or should be based on how they've won championships since the seventies.Kinston eagle 14:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

I would like to make an edit...

{{editprotected}} California Angels is linked to twice in this article: once in the infobox and once in the text. I would like to pipe this link to the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim, which is the page it is re-directed to. ––Ksy92003(talk) 00:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

It's not generally necessary to fix such things; the redirects don't impair the server in any way. Once the page is unprotected, if you wish the fix it you will be able to. But there really is no need. — Carl (CBM · talk) 04:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, fair enough. I will wait until after the page is unprotected. ––Ksy92003(talk) 04:41, 15 July 2007 (UTC)