Talk:Candice Michelle

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Moves Talk

Spinning Wheel

yep it is the Spinning Wheel kick, cause she uses both her legs, like a wheel, and J.R. says it is the Spinning Wheel Kick.

The reference says that Candice defeated Melina with a spinning heel kick. - Deep Shadow 12:23, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

well J.r. always says wheel, and he is better than an article!

J.R. tends to say things incorrectly. During matches, he will often get certain wrestlers' names mixed-up. I remember he used to get the names of The Hardys confused, same with MNM. His word on the announce table is not better than an article. - Deep Shadow 14:21, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I remember JR said Twist of Fate when Jeff Hardy made a Swanton Bomb on Randy Orton. 83.73.228.225 17:05, 7 July 2007 (UTC)Emilos

Um Deep Shadow where do u get this information? Since you think you know everything about Candice Michelle. It is a Spinning Wheel Kick! And I think you should get that through your head! 76.215.176.31 23:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

The information is provided in the article with a link to a reliable source from WWE.com. Perhaps you should do a little more reading and a little less trolling. - Deep Shadow 23:15, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

You think you're so cute don't you? Yea I'll look at that and get back to you. 76.215.176.31 23:21, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Yea I looked at the article and now I see that you are correct. I even read that article on www.wwe.com because I read everything on their website. I am WWE's biggest fan! 76.215.176.31 23:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Listen no more fighting ever get over it, it is a Spinning Heel Kick read my name it is BIGCANDICEFAN trust me its Heel Kick. BIGCANDICEFAN 03:31, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Candice's Moves

Can someone add more moves to candice michelles Signature moeves thing it only has 8 and she does more then 8 moves can someone explain( Nilsson23 07:17, 6 July 2007 (UTC)).

Changed to Signature Moves and Finishing Moves and more references

Instead of them both being together, I made finishing and signature moves section into tow different sections. I also added a bit more info with references! Thanks! Candicesfan

Please add references to everything you included such as her gimmick change. Personally, I don't think it's notable but I will leave it alone. Make sure the source is reliable. - Deep Shadow 04:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I'll go on a hunt for the interview where she discusses her gimmick! I will make sure everything is sourced and reliable! TRUST ME! Candicesfan

Moves list

I've noticed a small edit war over Candice's list of finishing and signature moves. Here's some advice: if she has used the move once, do not include it on the list, as it has not been established as either a finishing or signature move. Also, generic moves used by everyone should not be included in the list. This includes, but is not limited to, clotheslines, kicking combinations, various kicks, punches, etc. Those are also neither signature nor finishing moves. The list is supposed to represent moves unique to Candice, moves she uses to generally finish matches (the spinning heel kick), or moves she uses a lot (those are the moves that usually have official names such as Candylicious). It is not supposed to be a list of every move she has ever used during her entire career (this also applies to other Diva's articles where this problem is worse). Nikki311 04:36, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

Candice Michelle Move

I am an big fan of WWE.Com and I am here to comfirm that the beautiful New Women's Champion that study a lot has only two finishers named in WWE. They are the Candylicious which is the Hanging Figure Four Leg Lock and the Spining Heel Kick which is not yet named. All the other moves are signature moves. Thanks Darius A.K.A WWE and Candice Michelle's Biggest Fan

Her other finisher

Candice Michelle's finishers are the Spinning Heel Kick and the Candylicious. So I suggest you put that back. 76.215.176.31 23:38, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

well, i dont recall candice winning a match with just a "Candylicious", so now its known as a signature move, like Maria's bronco buster.

Rolling wheel kick

that what J.R. calls it, not an agent. Anyway it is a box typed move, she doesn't use one foot, that would be a Spinning "HEEL" kick, it is a Rolling wheel kick because she uses both feet.

The source you removed says "spinning heel kick", unless you can come up with a more reliable source that WWE.com, do not change the move. It is considered vandalism to change sourced information. Nikki311 18:09, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Heel Kick Proof

If you bought the Bash like me you will hear J.R. called it a Heel Kick not Wheel Kick a Heel Kick thanks. User:thewwebiggestfan

And he was wrong, don't change a move based on JR calling it. Darrenhusted 19:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I dont think JR would ever call a move wrong. It is the heel kick. Darius123 21:31, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

You don't think JR would ever call a move wrong? I assume you are being very, very sarcastic. JR call punches wrong, calls Matt Hardy "Jeff Hardy" and called Cody Rhodes "Cody Runnells" all night. JR is never proof of anything. Darrenhusted 21:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Candywrapper

Watching last night's match again, the Candywrapper appears very much to be like the Unprettier, Christian's finisher, which is under a facebuster description; the only difference between the two moves being that Candice's move ends with her grabbing the opponent's head - so is it a "new" version of a bulldog, or is it a facebuster?

Yes I thought the same thing and it is a Standing Bulldog. Darius 17:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I think a good description for the move will be "Inverted Double Underhook into a Standing Bulldog."

I say wait until she uses the move again, then post a more accurate description for it. For all we know, she may never use the inverted double underhook again. - Deep Shadow 02:12, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagrre because Jerry Lawler said that backstage Candice told him that she had a new move called the Candywrapper so actually that means it is an Signature Move and she will use it. Darius123 19:41, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

The unprettier looking thing isnt part of the move, it was just a reversal to what melina was gonna do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.34.112.196 (talk • contribs)

STOP DELEATING MOVES

Candice has done a new finisher doing it at recent house shows so include the finisher go on this site for profe http://www.wrestleview.com/news2006/1185730624.shtml — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nilsson23 (talk • contribs)

The "She Needs a Picture" Talk

New Picture

Candice needs a new picture you can get one off wwe.com, wrestlescoop.com, or wwedivaspictures.com

Candice needs a picture!

Candice Michelle needs a main picture. Don't tell me u cannot find a picture of her. I would do it if I could but I'm not a member. Thankyou! 75.7.250.218 05:17, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

If you can find a free use photo then by all means, release it to Wikimedia Commons. But in the mean time, we can't use a fair use photo because Candice is alive and working in the business, meaning a photo is possible to do. - Deep Shadow 06:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Um Deep Shadow, what u just said made no sense whatsoever. Mickie James is "alive and working in the business" but yet they have a picture of her. So I don't see the problem here. 76.215.176.31 22:57, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't know what you're getting at but the problem here is that currently, there are no free use photos of Candice Michelle. There are of Mickie James though and it is a free use image being used in her article, so it's not even the same issue. I suggest you take a look at WP:NONFREE for more information. - Deep Shadow 23:10, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Well then what happened to the old picture of her from a really long time ago? 76.215.176.31 23:17, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

It was deleted as it lacked licensing information. - Deep Shadow 23:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Playboy and Diva Search,Finisher, etc.

First off Candice Michelle is not only the first Diva Search Contestant to win The WWE Women's Championship but she is also the third Playboy Diva to win the Title. Also she is the fourth playboy diva to compete at WrestleMania along with Christy Hemme, Torrie Wilson, and Ashley Massaro. Her finisher is the Spinning Heel Kick. It is Bekmen not Beckham or Beckman. She also needs a new pic go to these site wwe.com, wrestlescoop.com, or wwedivaspictures.com. Plz make these changes on her page

if you know it all then tell us who else from the diva search won the womens title. she is also the first playboy diva to win the title ( unless you count chyna and sable, which you might be, none of the rest won the title ). do some reaserch before you talk.

First of all if you read all of it then you would know I said she was the 'third playboy diva to win the title. So don't come replying my stuff like that read it all next time smart ass — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebiggestwwefan (talk • contribs)

i just re-read it. i apologize. i read it wrong the first time.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Myselfimmortal (talk • contribs)

It's ok a lot of people do that Darius123 19:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Trivia Talk

Tv shows and Movies

Can someone please add that candice appeared as a dancer in the movie Dodgeball that starred Ben Stiller and Vince Vaughn.Also was she ever actually on a the 90's show Party Of Five?

Song

What is the offical name of Candice Michelle's Song it has been changed about four times. It's been What Love Is, Let Me Show You, Let Me Show You What Love Is, and How To Move Your Body. Please make a final change on this. Thanks Darius a.k.a WWE and Candice Michelle's Biggest Fan

Her song is called What Love Is. Believe me. 75.7.250.218 05:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

i dont know how many times im gonna have to say this the god damn song is called ALL EYES ON ME.

How do u figure it is called All Eyes On Me? That phrase is not even in the chorus! What Love Is (WWE Productions Theme Music) is the name of her entrance theme.

no, i believe its All Eyes on me. who said it has to be in the chorus? its not like all song titles have to be in the chorus

Thank you that is what I say it doesn't have to be in the chorus. The name of the song is All Eyes On Me I am a true Candice Michelle fan and trust me it's All Eyes On Me. Darius123 19:44, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

To be honest, there is no official itle for the song so I think there shoudn't be a title, but keep the mention of it. By the way I am pretty positive that it is called "Let Me Show You"! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.28.97 (talk • contribs)

Champions Only Match

I believe we should add this to her article. Besides being the first Champions only match this is Candice's first inclusion in a WWE Main Event.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.213.106.98 (talk • contribs)

THEN ADD IT--58.165.35.237 03:44, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree totally it was a good match. And like they said it's her first time being in A main event match> [[ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebiggestwwefan (talk • contribs)

Well, I disagree. She was never tagged into the match, she almost got hit or whatever by Umaga, but she didn't. Nothing happened. It was completely not notable. If she had gotten hit or tagged into the match...then maybe it ought to be added. Also, please sign your posts using ~~~~. it is a common Wikipedia courtesy. Nikki311 05:12, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Firt of all you dont have to sign and second of all just because your never tagged means nothing she is one of the first ever Divas to be in a main event on RAW and this was her first main event and they won. So dont down on Candice Michelle because she wasn't tagged. Darius123 19:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Darius you are blocked, stop evading the block. Darrenhusted 19:54, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about before. In regards to this, in my opinion, I think showing up on the match, being on the corner, being threatened, and of course winning the match should already be notable enough to add it to her article. 210.213.106.98 16:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Why is everything being deleted?

Okay I come on here like almost everyday and more and more info keeps being deleted. The image of her winning the belt was deleted, those types of pictures that come from WWE Women's title history on their website should alos be deleted form say, Stephanie McMahons article!

Also her moveset is waaaayyyy to short! She does more then four moves and almost all of her moves she does again at some point. I ask people to please stop deleting all of this information from this srticle. It isn't really well put together anymore and more info should be added to her move list. It would be greatly appreciated! User:Candicesfan 23:44, 26 July 2007 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.28.100 (talk • contribs)

Because people keep adding unsourced dreck in, and we mop it up. Darrenhusted 12:40, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Most of the moves added were moves she really used and common sense would tell you that!c It shouldn't be that difficult to find sources for moves. I say add them back because she uses the dropkick and the clotheslines and the crossbodies more then one time. Please stop deleting them because she uses most of them more then once. If I readd them and if they are deleted again, then it's apparent that whoever keeps deleting doesn't even watch her matches! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.215.28.97 (talk • contribs)

I know! Someone keeps deleting Neck Snap, even though she has used that move loads of times... the last two being at The Grteat American Bash and last night on Raw! Desperatebree 15:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

The Neck snap is a transition move used by most wrestlers, there is no need to list it, just as we do not list "kick" and "punch" under most movesets. Whether or not she has used it one or a hundred times it does not belong on her move set list, as all the Divas use a neck snap to transition to a ground move. Darrenhusted 15:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't agree... the last neck snap I can recall used by a diva was Jillian Hall, used against Melina at Judgment Day 2006... that was over a year ago. It's more technical than a kick! Plus in her match against Victoria (With Melina on commentary) Candice went for a pin straight after, therefore she doesn' use it as a transition move. It's not listed as transition moves on wikipedia, it's listed under neckbreakers. She also does it way more than crossbody.

Mickie James' move list is full of generic moves such as monkey flip, susnet flip and cartwheel. Those moves are transition moves. Desperatebree 16:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Then delete them and stop moaning about it here. Take a look at WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS as to why quoting what moves are on Alexis Laree's page doesn't matter here. Darrenhusted 16:26, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

No, I'm not moaning... I don't think they should be deleted... just because they are transition moves doesn't mean they should be deleted. Mickie does the one handed cartwheel all the time, more than say, Melina. Therefore it should be on her move list. In the same way Candice does the neck snap all the time, and as a main move so it should stay. I never insulted you so don't say I'm moaning all I am trying to do is make Candice's article good! Desperatebree 16:32, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

For the last time, those are just moves, not siganture moves. Darrenhusted 17:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

It's pointless... every time anyone tries to add some moves (which are needed as she does more than 5 moves!) certain people are determined the page has to stay their way. I have pointed out many times that she has only done a crossbody twice, once on Heat against Victoria in April 2007, and once at the Great American Bash. This move is allowed to stay. However, a Neck snap which she does every match, and has used to attempt to pin Victoria, is deleted again and again. It's SO frustrating!!!! Desperatebree 17:18, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Ok so you've left diving crossbody.. she's used that move twice so what makes that her signature move???? Surely Neck snap is her signature move as she uses it all the time, and as a move not a transition. I just don't get why her crossbody is a signature move. So many wrestlers do crossbody, WAY more wrsetlers do crossbody than neck snap.... Desperatebree 17:21, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

Power 25

Is it notable to mention Candice is the first Diva to break the top 15 of the Power 25 on wwe.com? She's in 14th place in this week's edition. 74.113.239.153 06:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

No. Darrenhusted 21:43, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

uh, i think we should, i mean, not even Trish Stratus broke the top 15 (or did she...) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.178.205 (talk • contribs)

It doesn't matter. The Power 25 isn't mentioned in any wrestling biography articles. It really isn't notable in the grand scheme of things because the rankings are done by WWE. They just rank whoever they are pushing at the time. Imagine how much longer John Cena's article would be if we added every time he was at/near the top of the list. Plus, it is original research to say she was the first Diva to break the top 15, unless you can prove it. Nikki311 02:39, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Wrestlers Managed

She lacks this section. She did managed Torrie and Victoria before as part of Vince's Devils.206.126.163.20 01:08, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

She doesn't have this section because she hasn't managed in wrestlers. She was stable-mates with Torrie and Victoria. It isn't the same as being their manager. Nikki311 01:44, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Green Bay

In yesterdays match you here Lilian say Green Bay, Wisconsin not Milwaklee so i put in on her billed from list.— Preceding unsigned comment added by CharliTa (talk • contribs)

Her WWE profile still says Milwaukee so that's what we go by, not what an announcer says because it is not always reliable. - Deep Shadow 11:58, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Well if that's what Lilian keeps on refering her from, we are going to have to put Green Bay.

No, we don't. I've heard JR mis-call hundreds of moves, do you want us to change the info based on that? The WWE profile is the prime source on this. Darrenhusted 12:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

What the heck are you talking about? First of all Lilian is a much powerful source of information, so if she says she is from Green Bay she is billed from Green Bay, WWE.com is not going to say she is from two places, Sorry, but your going to have to put Green Bay.— Preceding unsigned comment added by CharliTa (talk • contribs)

At WrestleMania 22, didn't García mix up the hometowns of both Candice Michelle and Torrie Wilson? And how is García a more "powerful source of information"? - Deep Shadow 12:36, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

No just Candice hometown, because she is a WWE Superstar, and this time J.R. didn't say she wasn't from Green Bay. And she is much powerful than agents. And if J.R. had of never said anything about Boise it could have been true. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharliTa (talk • contribs)

Could you take five minutes to learn how to sign. Darrenhusted 16:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

What changes are you talking about to the main page because remember this is not a forum yea it's me Darrenhusten. And who are talking to. Darius 17:29, 23 July 2007 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thewwebiggestfan (talk • contribs)

What, and first of all signing is a waste of time, and i do it sometimes okay. All i am saying is that Green Bay should be put because Lilian said she was from Green Bay, if Lilian says she from Green Bay once more, i will put it it on here bill from section. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CharliTa (talk • contribs)

JR called Cody Rhodes, "Cody Runnell" several times during his match on Sunday, despite him wrestling as Cody Rhodes. Announcers make mistakes but they are not the primary source for any information in any articles. And it is useful for people to sign so that others can check out who you are and how much weight to put behind your opinion, in the case of "CharliTa" I would go with none. Darrenhusted 19:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree that Lilian had made a mistake. 71.158.157.194 17:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

THIS ARTICLE IS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Okay this article sucks. 4 moves on her move list and information is being deleted and things don't make sense. I suggest people stop deleting moves and someone needs to readd ALL of her moves back. Seriously. Darrenhusted, you don't own the fucking page so deleting things in it. Seriously. Any idioit would know she does more then 4 moves. Leave the page alone asshole! I worked hard in adding her moves and making the article better but people like you just keep on deleting it. Candicefan — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.217.124.2 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia is not censored. Darrenhusted 00:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

Champion of Champions

Why is there still no mention of the Champion of Champions Match i'm about to add it.

Ok i cant add it why is there no edit this page for Candice. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BIGCANDICEFAN (talk • contribs)

The match is not notable. - Deep Shadow 05:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes it is and I think it should be added. BIGCANDICEFAN 03:25, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

She wasnt even involved in the match besides standing on the apron. It isn't an important thing. Myselfimmortal 18:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)