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NIN Discography

Right, I believe the following to be correct:

Finck contributed to "Memorabilia" which was featured on Closer to God
He is credited as a member of NIN for the recording of Further Down The Spiral
He toured around 1994–1996 as part of Downward and "Hurt (live)" features his work

One place I usually trust is NINwiki, and this backs up these assertions. violet/riga (t) 19:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Closer To God - [1]

Further Down the Spiral - [2]

And All that Could Have Been - [3]

The Downward Spiral - [4]

Bucketheader 20:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The following links contradict all of your information, however:

http://www.discogs.com/release/4404

http://www.discogs.com/release/3528

http://www.discogs.com/release/4403

Bucketheader also wrote:

"you haven't provided a reliable source to show he isn't credited on those NIN albums."

Actually, these credits were taken directly from each albums liner notes. There is no reason why my posts should be degraded and referred to as "vandalism" when I am merely trying to post factual data with supported links.

VR2007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VR2007 (talk • contribs) 20:06:53, August 19, 2007 (UTC).

Anyone can contribute to discogs, as far as I'm aware, it's not a reliable source for information here. However, the sources I've included in the article are. Bucketheader 20:10, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I think we need to assume good faith here: edit wars and accusations should always be avoided. I suggest that we look to other sources to further show his contributions. NINwiki is one source which is obviously rather good at detailing all thing NIN, but is a wiki and thus not a truly reliable source. If discogs is reader-submitted then it too isn't a decent source. I don't think that it would be easy to prove that Finck didn't contribute as websites showing credit listings may be missing some information, but we should be able to prove if he is credited by finding some other sources. I'll take a look. violet/riga (t) 20:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, http://www.discogs.com/release/4403 shows "5 Memorabilia (7:21) Remix - Brian Pollack , Chris Vrenna , John Van Eaton , Robin Finck , Sean Beavan , Sugar And His Friend , Trent Reznor" violet/riga (t) 20:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia guidlines are to source information, this has been done, and it has been done with a reliable source. If you revert the edits again you will get a warning on your talk page, if you do it again you will be blocked. If you want to prove these sources wrong scan images of the credits in the CD booklets and show them to us and we will delete the sources. Skeeker _[Talk] 20:18, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

AllMusic has been shown to be unreliable on several occasions and, just like any source, should not be considered infallible. violet/riga (t) 20:24, 19 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Violet/riga: I'm willing to concede your information is correct. However, being a member of a band and touring with a band does not mean a musician is credited as a songwriter. Robin Finck was just a part of Nine Inch Nail's live touring ensemble, which is why I left And All That Could Have Been under his discography. It's widely known that Reznor (along with producers and engineers) wrote almost all of Nine Inch Nail's material dating back to the very albums in question. No one is denying that Finck was a member of the band. I am merely contending that he did not contribute to The Downward Spiral or Further Down The Spiral. I was partially incorrect for asserting that he made no contributions on Closer To God, and for that I apologize. He is, in fact, credited on the Memorabilia remix.

My biggest concern was that Bucketheader was using his power to assert control over what was deemed valid. He was so quick to threaten a ban and remove my editing privileges - even going as far as to say I provided no reliable source. It seemed erratic and motivated by a particular bias.

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 Wikipedia guidlines are to source information, this has been done, and it has been done with a reliable source. If you revert the edits again you will get a warning on your talk page, if you do it again you will be blocked. If you want to prove these sources wrong scan images of the credits in the CD booklets and show them to us and we will delete the sources. [[User:Skeeker|<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: #002BB8">Skeeker</span>]]&nbsp;<sub style="color: red;">&#91;[[User talk:Skeeker|<span style="color:red">Talk</span>]]&#93;</sub> 20:18, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
 :AllMusic has been shown to be unreliable on several occasions and, just like any source, should not be considered infallible.  [[user:violetriga|violet/riga]] [[User_talk:violetriga|(t)]] 20:24, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
+Violet/riga: I'm willing to concede your information is correct. However, being a member of a band and touring with a band does not mean a musician is credited as a songwriter. Robin Finck was just a part of Nine Inch Nail's live touring ensemble, which is why I left [[And All That Could Have Been]] under his discography. It's widely known that Reznor (along with producers and engineers) wrote almost all of Nine Inch Nail's material dating back to the very albums in question. No one is denying that Finck was a member of the band. I am merely contending that he did not contribute to The Downward Spiral or Further Down The Spiral. I was partially incorrect for asserting that he made no contributions on Closer To God, and for that I apologize. He is, in fact, credited on the Memorabilia remix.
+My biggest concern was that Bucketheader was using his power to assert control over what was deemed valid. He was so quick to threaten a ban and remove my editing privileges - even going as far as to say I provided no reliable source. It seemed erratic and motivated by a particular bias.
+VR2007