Talk:Corned beef

I think it's inappropriate to have the term "cock block" appear on a page about corned beef, given that the phrase itself uses a word which is offensive to many and inappropriate for children. I'd rather see a mention that it's used as a possibly offensive euphemism and a link to a page of such euphemisms.

I agree. Also, having grown up in the in the midwest, I have never heard of "corned beef" being used in that manner. It's been deleted until someone can provide a credible reference, and even if they do then it should belong on a separate page. Spookfish 01:53, 18 October 2005 (UTC) well said good move

Corned Beef Recipe

Alton Brown walked through a recipe for making corned beef in an episode of the Food Network show Good Eats. Would it be worthwhile to add a link from this node to that recipe on foodnetwork.com? Zimage 18:41, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Sources and Verification

I attempted to verify the comments made on the "Corned Beef Special" sandwich mentioned in the article. Google showed 92 links under "corned beef special" "r&w deli" ... all of which used EXACTLY the same lead sentence as the Wikipedia article (except that about six of them had the date as 1965 instead of '57). About half of these also said "citation needed." Everybody's quoting everybody else, but no one is showing definitive independently-verified fact. Therefore, I will be editing the Wikipedia article to show that the sandwich is attributed to Mr. Weber, as opposed to verified to be his. F117-A 07:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

would corn beef be considerd a red meat

it is st patricks day and iam on a no red meat diet is corn beef considered red meat?

Yes. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:48, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

In fact, expanding on that, what gives it the red color that other types of beef lose when cooked?-it doesn't turn grey or brown. Chris 02:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Saltpeter is used when making it (as with pastrami). This is what makes it pink.Paul E Nolan 20:37, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

The article doesn't say anything about saltpeter being a typical ingredient. Perhaps it should? Davemenc 03:31, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Fritters?

Would anyone object if i made brief mention to tinned corned beef being sliced then shallow or deep fried in batter to make corned beef fritters. This is a common method of eating the tinned corned beef especially in the north-west of England and i know many people and also many shops that serve corned beef in this manner. - Jonathan

Find a reliable source that backs it up and cite it in your addition, and you can add anything. (In oher words, don't write based on personal experience or what you know to be the case -- everything needs to be verifiable.) —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 16:29, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Jonathandavis — Would these links do it?Link1 Link2 Link3

Those links attest to the fritters existing, but not to whether they are common, or where. —Bunchofgrapes (talk) 18:52, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Jonathandavis — Ahh fair enough, I shall do some more investigation! :-)

Gemini 3

Can we put Gemini 3 in the See also list? I thought of it because of the corned beef sandwich involvement during the spaceflight. A-yao 04:11, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Horse meat?

Wonder it anybody could shed any light on the assumption people make that corn beef is made from horses? Theres nothing about it on this article and for a fact many people assume its made from horses. Theres an argument going on with my colleages who swear its made from horses, this is absurd but the more people I ask the more I get the answer HORSES, am sick of it. I think this assumption comes from old yarns, Greatgrandparents passed on to grandparents to mothers and fathers, then finally to us (me even you maybe) I wonder now if this is the same assumption in other parts of the world as it is the case in , Ireland where I come from, maybe even england, wales, scotland pretty sure its the same case in theses places becasse there just over the water from us. I think that there should be a piece on this article about this, as when I heard people thought this I always said 'your nuts its made from beef' hence the name Corned Beef not Corned Horse. I thought wiki could clear this up but it couldn't thats why I want your feedback on the matter and maybe add to this acticle. Thanks McNoddy--McNoddy 09:50, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

I suppose it could be true, but you shouldn't add it to the article yet without some reliable sources because otherwise it's original research. I've personally never heard of that belief (born and raised in United States, California). I know when I go to the grocery store I expect it to be pure 100% cow. ;) JoeSmack ^Talk 17:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

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Having eaten my fair share of horse meat (primarily when it gained popularity in the Western United States in the early 1970s), I can attest to the similarity in texture of horse meat and corned beef brisket (especially when carved the wrong way), so, while never having heard that before, I can understand where it may have come from. However, in the USA, you have to make "corned beef" out of BEEF; anything else would have to be called "corned pork," "corned venison," "corned horse," et cetera, or you would run afoul of Federal and/or State labeling laws. F117-A 13:38, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I have never heard of this belief but there may be an origin in seafaring lore. Salt beef used as a principal meat aboard ship in the 18th and 19th centuries was often suspected and believed to be horsemeat, hence the shanty "Old Horse" and the references to the meat being "Dublin horse". Perhaps this carried over to corned beef. Dabbler 15:21, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

I stopped eating corned beefs years ago because someone told me it was made from horses. I just couldnt stomach it. Its a very popular belief and i think it should be included in the article. P.S. - not going back to corn beef now that i know the truth. 74.225.6.221 21:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Guys, corned beef is KOSHER (or should be). Horses are as "treif" (non-kosher) as pigs. You can't make a silk purse out of sow's ear, and you can't make corned BEEF out of a horse, a pig, or a camel. Next topic! ; - )) 68.5.64.178 19:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Trivia?

Ummm...there has been some strange things appearing under the "Trivia" section, is this actual information or not? Nol888 01:49, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

better picture

the picture of the corned beef sandwich on this page seem a little blurry. There's an identical picture on Alan's Kitchen webpage which is sharper. [1] Perhaps it should be replaced? 209.36.79.10 20:33, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

NY Corned Beef vs. Philadelphia Corned Beef sandwiches

I noticed that the picture of the Corned Beef sandwich from Katz, New York has THICK slices of corned beef. I grew up in Philadelphia, and the corned beef sandwich in Philly is made with very THIN slices of meat.

I've been told this is a regional difference. Can anybody verify my personal observations? I think it would be useful to include in the article if it is possible to verfy 209.36.79.10 20:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

In the Good Eats show mentioned by Zimage above, it's supposed to be NY corned beef, and he makes specific mention of slicing it thinly. May just be a variation for that particular place, or a photographic sandwich (like being able to see the meat in a Big Mac on a commercial, but not being able to in the actual sandwich.) --StarChaser Tyger 02:51, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I also grew up in Philly, and I am a little confused. So far as I know, a so called "Corned Beef Special (or sandwich)" is just a generic, non-ethnic way to refer to a Reuben. I don't think there is any difference between the two, except for what they are called depending upon what neighborhood one lives in. In any event, Philadelphians have always preferred very thinly sliced meats, from the deli to the cheesesteak. 70.20.219.41 03:09, 16 September 2007 (UTC)