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I think I'td be fun to speculate on Q's Omnipotence and apperant interest in humanity as a form of "proof" the the simulated reality of a posthumanistic era. He only seeks to trick ,test and be amuzed by the reactions of it's pets,much as you would expect from an equivilant "master of the Virtual Zoo"
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The Procrastinator 18:10, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
In the Star Trek: Voyager episode Death Wish (Voyager episode) it is mentioned that the Q are NOT omnipotent. SD6-Agent 23:22, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
Actualyl it is ONLY mentioned as an general statement. He later tells Tuvok ,that BEING omnipotent and nearly perfect in their evolution to the rest of the unchanging universe,they SAY nothing and do not aspire for Change... it's kinda liek saying that knowing all is boring to live with. I would'nt really call that a disproof. The Procrastinator 00:20, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Um, I would, I think he meant it litterally, which is usually how I take something most of the time unless there's a reason to think he isn't serious, if someone said "you must think money grows on trees" we know it's a figure of speech, because money doesn't, but this is a straightforward statement, besides, even if that wasn't stated there is plenty of evidence the Q aren't omnipotent, they can be killed in Q and the Grey, they wouldn't have been able to throw Q out, no matter how many "ganged up" on him, and remember Q saying to Riker that eventually Humans could overtake them in evolution in Hide and Q. The snare 04:49, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Please clean?
The first two paragraphs of this article are duplicate to a degree.
- Fixed. It wasn't that hard though, you could have done it...
What about Charlie X?
Since the article discusses the speculative Q -> Trelane link, what about Charlie X? I've also heard it suggested that he might have been a Q along the lines of Amanda Rogers. 23skidoo 06:40, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
- Charlie X was definitely not a Q. He was a human child who was the sole survivor at an outpost. Rather than let him die, some super-powerful beings (maybe Q) gave him powers to create the things that he needed to continue to live. After he demonstrated that he couldn't live among humans without harming them, the super-powerful beings came and took him back to live with them.
- Amanda Rogers, on the other hand, was the daughter of two Q who had ceased to use their powers so that they could live as humans on Earth. They had actually used their powers to do something (I forget what), so the Q killed them with a tornado. Amanda thought that she was human, but was actually Q. Once she discovered her powers, she agreed to voluntarily not use them. When she used them anyway, Q came back and she willingly went with him. Val42 03:30, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Articles on other Q
Are there articles about the other Q mentioned? I don't find links to them on this page. I know that there isn't much information on them individually, so I have two proposals: Make this article about Q as well as the Q themselves, or (my favorite) make and article about the Q, with a link to this article about the most-seen Q. Val42 03:38, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Gender issue
i belive Q should be classified as male, as he has a wife and child...I will change his classification to male untill proof to the contrary arises -- 68.45.33.182 (sig added by Cburnett)
- First, please sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~) so we know who you are (regardless if you have a login).
- Having a "wife" and child does not necessitate him being male. The same genderification "rules" that apply to humans....I don't believe are applicable to an omnipotent species who mates by touching fingers. Considering the Q are played by humans, they obviously have to have some gender but neither their labels nor actors' gender can actually be used as evidence of their gender. First, it must be established that they indeed do have gender. Secondly, it must be established that their genders are male and female. Thirdly, I would need to see something to the effect that having a "wife" is evidence enough to label Q as male (this assumption fails in the case of two married homosexuals).
- So, in summary, I guess I disagree with you on the grounds that you're used humanistic terms to an omnipotent species played by human actors. Cburnett 04:11, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
- I would say he is male. The definitions of male and female are based off of children and sex. First off, his wife is called a female. They physically have a child. As best I know, and as best we can define, the parent of the child who does not carry the child and is not a female is a male. -Platypus Man | Talk 13:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
- Regardless of whether he has a wife or children, or even a gender at all, he chooses to take the form and characteristics of a male in every episode he appears in which, for all intensive purposes, makes him male.168.213.7.252 15:41, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- I would agree with calling him male (as he has always taken that form), but in the episode Q-Pid, he says he only appeared to Picard as a male, but he could have appeared as a female. This suggest that he is sexless. The "female" Q he has a child with may have appeared female simply for appearances to humans.Rt66lt 00:28, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- In the episode "Q- Pid," Q chides Picard about how he should have appeared to him as a female after seeing how a woman (Vash) can get Picard riled up. This strongly demonstrates Q's naturally sexless state, as he can appear as whatever gender he desires. Also, in all episodes involving Q, it is stated that the Q Continuum is on another plane of existance, and they themselves are noncorporeal beings, rendering the concept of gender practically useless. Q, as well as other Q, simply appear in a familiar form (human to Picard, Sisko and Janeway) so as not to overwhelm the "puny, human mind" with their true form. I hope this helps??? Jason Keyes 13:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
- The Q have no gender, this Q just chooses to take on a male form(like how Data let his "daughter" Lal choose it's gender). Q could choose to appear female if it wanted to. TJ Spyke 07:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- So then shouldn't the article say it instead of he? 86.136.232.83 00:36, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
- "He" in English is also used for persons whose gender is unspecified. 84.182.107.244 18:42, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Split Q from Q Continuum
I have made a new article at Q Continuum for info about the race, have taken most of the necessary info from this page to leave this page as a page about the character Q. If people spot any omissions or anything, please correct.. cheers! Rob.derosa 13:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Eye Color
I may seem nitpicky, but are Q's eyes really brown? I've been watching the episodes in the Q box set, and in a few scenes his eyes look signifigantly lighter. I think they may be green. Being green eyed myself, I often get confused for a brown eyed person. I will change it unless anyone has any problem with it. Or rather, do we even need an eye color for him? - Defunctzombie 00:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
- Most certainly. 84.182.107.244 18:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC).
Unclear paragraph
The sentence "This unchanged attitude..." is very confusing, I think. The previous sentence says he "reverted" suggesting a change (contradicting the phrase "unchanged attitude"). Second the quote refers to a trial which is not otherwise mentioned in the article. The following sentence says that this quote "makes the two episodes contiguous." Which two episodes, and how? Also, I don't think contiguous is the proper word here, perhaps consistent? I don't have sufficient knowledge to fix the article myself, but if someone else would undertake the work, I would be appreciative. --best, kevin [kzollman][talk] 01:24, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
Untidiness
"Some fans have come to believe that Q was somehow attracted to the stoic captain, and it could be argued that there is something flirtatious in the way Q teases Picard." - "Some fans" is not a source, and "it could be argued that" is one of the specific examples given on WP:WEASEL. --Grey Knight ⊖ 13:42, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
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Omnipotence
Can an omnipotent being commit suicide?