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: If that's true, then they could have gotten what they meant wrong for exactly that reason, so it doesn't necessarily make the "translation" wrong. [[User:Xihr|Xihr]] ([[User talk:Xihr|talk]]) 01:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC) |
: If that's true, then they could have gotten what they meant wrong for exactly that reason, so it doesn't necessarily make the "translation" wrong. [[User:Xihr|Xihr]] ([[User talk:Xihr|talk]]) 01:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC) |
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:: I'm not saying that the translation is wrong, just that there are at least three possible translations of the word from Latin to English. "Kidnapper" or "Rapist" would make sense, whereas "Thief" makes no sense at all; The Alien has never stolen anything (other than people: kidnapping) [[User:Xeno666|Pug50]] ([[User talk:Xeno666|talk]]) 08:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC) |
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Well I'm still a high school kid, but over the years I've been studying this stuff, and honestly I do believe in aliens. What confuses me is, this whole race of xenomorphs is either termite or ant-based creatures. Both of them have "Warriors" and "Workers" as well as a little egg sac that they use. The queen is able to remove herself from the Egg Sac as in Termites she can't, but ants also give the proof that only one queen can last the ants a life time by herself. Therefore, I think we should not quite assume the fact these guys are one of those insect based creatures, it would just make more sense. Oh, and either way both types of insects have or had Kings. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thecutnut|Thecutnut]] ([[User talk:Thecutnut|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thecutnut|contribs]]) 05:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
Well I'm still a high school kid, but over the years I've been studying this stuff, and honestly I do believe in aliens. What confuses me is, this whole race of xenomorphs is either termite or ant-based creatures. Both of them have "Warriors" and "Workers" as well as a little egg sac that they use. The queen is able to remove herself from the Egg Sac as in Termites she can't, but ants also give the proof that only one queen can last the ants a life time by herself. Therefore, I think we should not quite assume the fact these guys are one of those insect based creatures, it would just make more sense. Oh, and either way both types of insects have or had Kings. <small>—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Thecutnut|Thecutnut]] ([[User talk:Thecutnut|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Thecutnut|contribs]]) 05:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)</small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Look, can the people constantly referring to the warrior aliens as "drones"
Please look up the word "drone" in a dictionary? A drone is a fertile male of an insect colony. Its purpose is to mate with the queen of another colony to produce offspring. There is no evidence in canon that the alien warriors are fertile, and indeed the evidence suggests that the queen does not need to mate. Serendipodous 11:23, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
Adult Aliens weak against fire? 2
I'm sorry I'll have to bring up an old topic, but didn't the young Chestburster show rather remarkable resistance to fire in 'Aliens'? It was caught on fire, and it last rather long time in the flames or a flamethrower? Opinions? 62.248.150.20 (talk) 17:28, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
- Opinions on what? It didn't die right away because, well, it looks better. Funkynusayri (talk) 21:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Correct?
In Alien³, another addition was made - that of a "super facehugger" that could impregnate two hosts with a Queen and a "Commander" embryo.[citation needed] This facehugger was larger and darker compared to the normal pink variety. This would explain why both Ripley and a dog were impregnated from one facehugger. The super facehugger was found by some of the inmates, who thought it a type of jellyfish.
Ripley was the whole time inside the freezing chamber and couldn't have been infected there... isn't it more probable she was infected in Aliens inside the Research Lab before she woke up. One of the 2 live facehuggers there might already have infected her and still lived long enough to seem dangerous. Oli obk (talk) 20:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
- That's original research; we can't really comment on it aside from what is shown in the film: an abnormal facehugger with abnormal reproductive habits (impregnating twice). EVula // talk // ☯ // 21:32, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
Translation of raptus
Would the intended meaning of "raptus" not be more likely to be "kidnapper" or "rapist" rather than "thief", considering the lack of a direct English translation of raptus? Both would be more reasonable translations considering the behaviour depicted in the films. Also, the producers of the Quadrilogy box set would be unlikely to have employed a Latin expert to create a tiny reference on the menu of a DVD. Pug50 (talk) 23:24, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
- If that's true, then they could have gotten what they meant wrong for exactly that reason, so it doesn't necessarily make the "translation" wrong. Xihr (talk) 01:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not saying that the translation is wrong, just that there are at least three possible translations of the word from Latin to English. "Kidnapper" or "Rapist" would make sense, whereas "Thief" makes no sense at all; The Alien has never stolen anything (other than people: kidnapping) Pug50 (talk) 08:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
Termite-Based?
Well I'm still a high school kid, but over the years I've been studying this stuff, and honestly I do believe in aliens. What confuses me is, this whole race of xenomorphs is either termite or ant-based creatures. Both of them have "Warriors" and "Workers" as well as a little egg sac that they use. The queen is able to remove herself from the Egg Sac as in Termites she can't, but ants also give the proof that only one queen can last the ants a life time by herself. Therefore, I think we should not quite assume the fact these guys are one of those insect based creatures, it would just make more sense. Oh, and either way both types of insects have or had Kings. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thecutnut (talk • contribs) 05:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
- It's not clear to me what your point is, but regardless it qualifies as original research. The purpose of Wikipedia is to report notable facts with reliable, third-party sources, not to invent new "facts" and present them as truth when there is no reliable basis for them. Xihr 05:32, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Geiger's original idea does not jive with mindless bugs
There needs to be a part of the article discussing the first movie version as a stand alone universe seperate from the rest of the series. In Geiger's Alien he shows alien hierogyphics and suggests that they had their own culture. It is also thought that the Space Jockey was created by the aliens and that they also sent out the SOS signal as a trap. This of course is before the later movie Predator so there can be no theories about the aliens being created by the Predators projected onto the Space Jockey idea. Also the Alien in the first movie is indestructible, while Ash is reanimated he says that they can't kill it. Also the first movie has deleated scenes that shows Dallas being turned into an egg, so no Queen exists in the first movie's universe. This Alien also rapes Lambert with its tail which theoretically could impregnate her, so as horrible as it sounds this is probably what happened to Dallas. 70.211.25.105 (talk) 00:18, 6 December 2007 (UTC) tlhowell1970@gmail.com
- Sorry, that's all original research. We're not here to discuss theories about fictional material, or debate what is "canon." IMO this whole article needs to be worked on according to guidelines at WP:WAF. IllaZilla (talk) 07:32, 6 December 2007 (UTC)