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::Forgot to mention, I'm one of the few people who chose "Arseface" in Fable: TLC just so I could punch whoever called me Arseface. I also punched children and punted chickens into the sea, and I even beat my wife when she said "I could have had a career!" Yeah, I'm a real bastard, I know. [[User:Tyler_Warren|Tyler Warren]] <sup> ([[User_talk:Tyler_Warren|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Tyler_Warren|contribs]]) </sup> 09:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC) |
::Forgot to mention, I'm one of the few people who chose "Arseface" in Fable: TLC just so I could punch whoever called me Arseface. I also punched children and punted chickens into the sea, and I even beat my wife when she said "I could have had a career!" Yeah, I'm a real bastard, I know. [[User:Tyler_Warren|Tyler Warren]] <sup> ([[User_talk:Tyler_Warren|talk]]/[[Special:Contributions/Tyler_Warren|contribs]]) </sup> 09:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC) |
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PC version
I read an article on Eletronic Gaming Monthly about Fable 2 than a PC version has confirmed.
Sadly, I'd imagine that this is speculation by the magazine or else an assumption much along the lines of release date assumption, because I don't see it anywhere on lionhead.com or loinhead.net, the two most reliable sources. The official site still says that it is Xbox 360 exclusive. For now, that's the official word. Sorry! Magugag 19:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- Though they're still calling Fable 1 an "X-Box exclusive" http://www.lionhead.com/fable2/news/448 129.2.170.33 07:35, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
To be honest I think there will eventually be a PC version. See http://www.loinhead.net/2007/03/14/fable-2-for-pc/ Still, I admit its still wishful thinking at the moment and nothing is confirmed. Fitz05 22:46, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
Spells
Well, I think we have some evidence that we could get a spell page going with one confirmed spell in it so far. Remember in the GDC demonstration, after the dog was injured by the Hobbes? Molyneux noticeably cast a healing spell on the animal in the form of rays of healing light converging on the animal from slightly about it. Could we at this point confirm the healing spell and start a spell section? Magugag 06:15, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Could've been a healing item... 72.241.165.155 01:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Pirates
Pirates? Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates. Pirates... Pirates. Fable with pirates = win.
Garrgh, I agree. Thanks for spamming the talk page instead of the article.Stu42 22:27, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
If there are not pirates in Fable 2, it would be a good idea to add in Fable 3 because of the addition of muskets and such. --Eiyuu Kou 16:59, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
If they did that, they'd need to have fable three on the new system, and have said new system equipped with bluray or better...I mean, come on...If you are gonna have pirates, you gotta have about 8-9 other continents to sail to n' stuff <_< 72.241.165.155 01:39, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
Regarding Firearms
The article states that firearms are presumed to be in the game. I remember seeing a demonstration video of Fable 2 somewhere (mainly featuring the dog mechanics) and noticed that when the demonstrator talked about how your dog acts differently depending on what weapon you choose, he pulled out a firearm and shot an enemy with it. I'm unable to find the video to cite, but if anyone can find it, they should be able to changed that from 'presumed' to 'confirmed'. Unless, that is, they mysteriously stop using firearms in the game. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TriggerOfHel (talk • contribs) 23:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC).
If there are firearms, I think the dog (over-time) will begin to let you deal with your enemies by yourself. Especially when you are injured, the dog could feel that you could just use the gun to get rid of the bad guys. (If there are guns, fuck 'em.)
Uh... no. Your dog actually does not let you 'deal by yourself' if you use a gun more often. Of that I'm certain. Just cause you don't like guns... sheesh. Anyways, the dog has been shown to attack melee characters when you use a gun, and ranged characters when you use a sword. Simple. Magugag 07:26, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I saw a trailer on youtube confirming guns, it should be on IGN.com or something, im to lazy and tired to be bothered with it now, but if you want to 'confirm' it then thats where i think you should look.-R.A
Release Date
Play.com puts the release date as 27/10/2007. http://www.play.com/Games/Xbox360/4-/1012390/Fable_2/Product.html Michaelritchie200 09:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I saw that somewhere else too. It seems pretty practical but we can't put it for the official release date. DarthJango42 18:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Best Buy puts the date as 10/15/2007 [1] Predated 21:34, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
Peter molyneux said 2008 at GDC. If were going to put a releasedate, I think this one's more reliableStu42 22:29, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
- Link in the first paragraph also states 2008. Lionhead.com is a pretty official source. --CCFreak2K 07:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
In the video demonstation released on July 12, 2007 on the IGN website, Peter Molyneux has stated that the release date would be sometime between July and the autumn of 2008, but more than likely the fall since he states that the game will take some time to polish it up.
Consoles
Is this being released only for the XBox 360? Not the PC? Michaelritchie200 20:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
At the moment it has only been announced for the 360. DarthJango42 18:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
You know that's bullcrap. NO game company is foolish enough to not have it's games on the PC. (They'll be swimming in Benjamins if they release this for the PC.)
It probably will be released on PC like most Xbox 360 games, but it could be up to half a year or later after the Xbox 360 release, and that may not happen, it didnt for Fable.
It did, but it was called Fable the lost chapters and had some extra features. A pc release still isn't confirmed though so there is no reason to put it in the farticle.
"Farticle"? lol, it will make its way to the PC all Xbox exclusive and 360 exclusive games have, though i'd say it would be Vista exclusive. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.123.13 (talk) 08:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
Confirmed facts
Some of the confirmed facts seem unclear or as they're stated should not be considered confirmed.
- "The game may be set on another continent than Albion.": If it "may be", it isn't confirmed. Also, with other items stated, it seems that the game will be set in Albion. Or is this talking about that other continents may be involved including Albion?
- "Property can now be properly invested in...": How is it going to be different from the first Fable?
- "The designer wants to reproduce a theme of unconditional love in your children.": What exactly does this mean?
- "The player can plant an acorn into the ground and watch it grow into an oak tree." Only oak trees are available to plant or is this just an example that vegetation can be planted?
- "Images found online taken from X06 show a new area called Bloodstone which appears to be a coastal dock-style area for ships." & "Other images from X06 also hint heavily at pirates making an appearance and indicate that the "whores" of Albion, as named in the image, will also reappear in Fable 2.": Is it possible to have stated images posted, as there is no link (that I've found) to said images, so reference to them is almost pointless.
PureSoldier 04:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
- this game is also avalable for windows & mac.
-Oh, just browse those links down the bottom (the gamespot one). I found the articles (though I don't have time to find them for you now). It's all true if you take Peter M's word for it. Not sure about the other than Albion thing though. I didn't read all of it.
-- Will do. PureSoldier 06:47, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
i wonder if scythe will make an appearance, i believe he will..
Does somebody knows the official release date? Because everyone is saying a diferent one. (DenisseClark 04:29, 20 December 2006 (UTC))
-- Okay, regarding your questions about the confirmed facts:
- The unconditional love thing means that your characters kids will respect you no matter what kind of horrible things you .
- I'm pretty sure that only oak trees have acorns. I could be wrong, though.
As for the other questions... *falls over and dies* --Averross 14:47, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, oak trees have acorns, but the question was more, "Is oak the only type of tree".PureSoldier 15:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
I don't think that an oak is the only type of tree.Why would anyone use only one type of tree in a game?
"this game is also avalable for windows & mac." Uh... 'fraid not chum. So far, this game is only registered for release on the Xbox 360. While there is a strong possibility of computer releases, there is no concrete information. Magugag 22:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
To be honest i dont think there are any 'confirmed' facts, there were apparantly confirmed facts up to two weeks before the release for Fable yet practically half the promised gameplay was missing. I wouldnt trust molyneux to introduce half the stuff that he said he will and has shown at this early stage, sure its refreshing to have someone whos really into a project that their working on, but he did in all fairness, lie, about what would be in the first Fable.
Reconfirm facts
If someone has some time on their hands, can they reconfirm the items listed? While a lot of the vandalism seems to be gone, others seem possible vandalism.
PureSoldier 20:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
This is DarthJango42, I'm posting the list of facts and I'll say which ones I've definitely heard of and post links if I can find them. Only the September ones because the July ones seem mostly plausible. Also, I'm new at this so I'm not sure how to shorten to links so if someone wants to do that to this list, they can.
NOTE: For the http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html source, take special note of paragraph 7 which states that not all of these features may make the cut. Also the last paragraph says we may see Fable 2 in action at March although this could definitely change. Here's a page with the whore, pirates, and bloodstone images. And some other stuff too. http://alterego.vault.ign.com/files/extras/fable2concept.php
On September 29, 2006 Lionhead's Peter Moleyneux gave a preview of Fable 2 at X06:
- The Hero starts as a street urchin. http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html and http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=146894&skip=yes
- The player will be able to choose his or her character's gender. Their bodies will mature accordingly as they age or level up in experience. http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html and http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=146894&skip=yes
- Property can now be properly invested in, and you will also be able to buy things like castles or even catacombs. http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html
- It is now possible to have children, whether you are playing as a female or a male. http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html and http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=146894&skip=yes
- The designer wants to reproduce a theme of unconditional love in your children. http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html and http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=146894&skip=yes
- The player may now choose from protected sex to unprotected sex. http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html
- The player can plant an acorn into the ground and watch it grow into an oak tree. http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html
- The player can affect the future of a camp by choosing to finance it or slay everyone inside. http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html and http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=146894&skip=yes
- The Hero's child is affected by the Hero's actions. This means that if the Hero is evil, his child will be too. http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html
- Images found online taken from X06 show a new area called Bloodstone which appears to be a coastal dock-style area for ships. http://alterego.vault.ign.com/files/extras/photos/2.jpg
- Other images from X06 also hint heavily at pirates making an appearance and indicate that the "whores" of Albion, as named in the image, will also reappear in Fable 2. http://alterego.vault.ign.com/files/extras/photos/4.jpg http://alterego.vault.ign.com/files/extras/photos/8.jpg
- The improved combat system will mean that the way the hero swings his sword changes according to proximity of walls, allies, and enemies. http://uk.videogames.games.yahoo.com/x360/previews/fable-2-cd600a.html
- The game will have a multiplayer portion. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=148656?cid=OTC-RSS&attr=CVG-General-RSS NOTE: He did not confirm multiplayer, he has only confirmed a spectator mode so far where people can watch each other play. http://www.answers.com/topic/fable-2 (It says Molyneux hints at a multiplayer portion in some G4 interview which I haven't been able to find.)
- You will now be able to take jobs as such as barman, a farmer, or even a prostitute. http://alterego.vault.ign.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62
- Your character will age, as the game takes place over 50 years http://alterego.vault.ign.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62
- The Hero will be able to have a companion, most likely a dog. http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=128840 However, considering that this is a year old and absolutely nothing has been said about it since (except for rumors), I wouldn't really count on this one...
- There will be an online element with a team mechanic. http://alterego.vault.ign.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62
- If you die, you can not return so you have to restart/load the game.
In the http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=146894&skip=yes source, they say the main bad guy is named Lucien who will try to harm your family if have one. So far anyways, the only rumor I haven't been able to find anything about is the die comeback one (the last one) which I don't even really get anyway, so there. Everyone else can decide what to do with this stuff. DarthJango42 02:23, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
Don't you think they are over exxagurating like what they did with the original Fable? So much for carving a name on a tree, lol. --Eiyuu Kou 16:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Yo Momma
The latest person to edit the page, yo momma (I'm just calling him that since there is no name in the history of the page and the comment he left was yo momma), left a vulgar comment at the end of the list of confirmed facts. Some of the confirmed facts don't make sense, like there will be "uncool" twists and you can have a companion that is a rapist. Are there any citations that can confirm the confirmations? Otherwise I will have to assume that yo momma messed with the page.
Rhymingisfun 02:22, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
In response to Yo Momma
The person you call Yo Momma was vandalizing the page,This is confirmed because you can not have a rapist as your companion from known evidence and they also added to fact below that and I quote "Why are you reading this Bitch?"That is what he put after that and I think this vadalization should be fixed as soon as possible. --Grabnar 04:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
Peter Molyneux at GDC 2007
Should we put in that Peter Molyneux is going to have an 80-minute session at GDC in March just about Fable 2 and reveal a new "unexpected" feature of the game? In this session, he will also likely reveal tons of other new info on the game as well. http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/753/753870p1.html So should we put this in the article? DarthJango42 03:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC) —Definately. I'd add it but I'm not sure where to put it.Stu42 21:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)Stu42
- I'll add it. Incidentally, does anyone have a source on the talk Molyneux had with G4? fel64 08:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
Theres a video about it on G4's website. You can find it easy if you do a search for "Molyneux." Not sure how to cite it though. --Ryudo 06:08, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
- Searched for Molyneux, got a whole bunch of results. I watched the most likelies but none of them mentioned online play (I'm interested because it's listed as a source for the 'known facts'). Unfortunately their system is incredibly inconvenient for linking - maybe you can describe exactly how to get to that video? In any case, I would cite by giving the quotation, the timespan and the video location. fel64 16:55, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Rewriting page
I think it would be good to rewrite this page - it's just a huge mess now, especially that list of facts. I've put what I'm working on as one of my user pages here. Basically I will be rewriting the introduction and the confirmed facts thing mainly for a different page structure. One of my reasons is WP:LAUNDRY. Comments/criticisms/vetoes? fel64 16:24, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
- Sounds good, just remember to include everything. And put cites so we can get rid of that "does not cite its sources" thing. DarthJango42 04:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
- My main problem is that quoting videos in terribly inconvenient. Once something is sorted out about that it'll be finished, possibly earlier anyway. fel64 17:15, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
I just replaced the page. Please make any changes necessary or even revert (with discussion first though please). I am involved with Loinhead, and I have linked to it - but that was in cases where I thought it was genuinely the best/only source for the information. fel64 17:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Right, next person to post made up stuff in it will be chased by a banana. Hi fel. Grymsqueaker 10:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Tell me if I'm wrong, but does Fable 2 have random generated worlds? I've never heard anything about this, and I'm a member of the lionhead forums, found here: http:allboards.lionhead.com
- Yo Kal!
- Anonymous: You're wrong. Probably. There hasn't been anything at all to suggest that. Please sign comments by the way. :) fel64 17:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, that was me, I forgot to sign it. It was one of the things that was in the article, that's all. Grymsqueaker 08:49, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Vandalism?
There is something at the end of the storyline section of questionable truth. But I'm not removing anything yet. 124.177.183.208 07:33, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
- That was just crazy. I reverted it. Thanks. fel64 09:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
Fan sites
There is a small list of fan sites on Lionhead's web site that I would like to make referance to here with out them being constantly deleated http://www.lionhead.com/fable2/links.html --Toddquest 12:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Toddquest (talk • contribs) 01:53, 4 May 2007 (UTC).
Vandalism?
I think there has been vandalism to the page.... You will notice in the article quoted from Molyneux things like "you are destined, in that story, to bring together a group of heroes rather like the Magnificent 7." and "The camera follows the dump down, it comes down, the crap lands on this kid’s head - that’s you".
The quote also refers to Peter Molyneux in third person so it probably isn't authentic (I wouldn't think). The page it is referenced from is a site called www.loinhead.net - loinhead not lionhead, so I would assume from a quick look at it that it is a parody site.
You can also see some dubious comments about the dog and various other bits of the article...
This is the first time ive ever posted a comment or anything on wikipedia and I don't know what to do to fix an article, so this is all I can really do.. anyone who can help it would be good to keep the article accurate.
If I'm wrong and it hasn't been vandalised then my apologies.
Thanks, NW
(203.123.116.249 12:39, 8 July 2007 (UTC))
Loinhead is an actual fan site and quite reliable. "you are destined, in that story, to bring together a group of heroes rather like the Magnificent 7." sounds like vandalism, however I'm not so sure about "The camera follows the dump down, it comes down, the crap lands on this kid’s head - that’s you". I know at least part of that is true... its meant to be the introduction. I'll have a look and see if I can root out some of the stuff. Fitz05 13:51, 8 July 2007 (UTC) I had a check and read over those parts. Theres been no vandalism that I could spot. Loinhead is actually quite a good source of information about various lionhead games, you should check it out. Fitz05 13:57, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
Oh ok will do. I assumed it was a parody site just by looking at the name 'loinhead', sorry. I'll check it out. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
(203.123.116.250 08:13, 10 July 2007 (UTC))
_______________________
Sorry, just dropping this link:
http://media.xbox360.ign.com/media/741/741361/vids_1.html
Check out the E3 demo there, we get to see the combat, as well as some remarks on death, the development progress, and release date. Update the wiki!
Settlments
This section doesn't seem to quote any sources, or anything... and as a fable enthusiast, i dont seem to remember at any point Peter Molyneux stating that there would be multiple settlements that the hero can influence in this way. I think a change is needed. Sneidich88 03:12, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
Molyneux vs. Jackson
In the storyline section (second paragraph) it says "Peter Molyneux" rather than "Peter Jackson". So I'm fixing it. The talk is trascribed somewhere already if you need proof, and Molyneux has no reason to refer to himself in third person. T. M. Mitchells 13:32, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
Problems
The subsections under Death, Cutscenes and Dynamic World do not seem to be appearing, despite existing in the code. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.205.200.19 (talk) 04:31, August 28, 2007 (UTC)
Cootie catcher
In case anyone cares, the origami held by the girl in the teaser is called a cootie catcher. --Voidvector 04:48, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
Question
I only have 1 question to ask, and if the answer is yes, then I am so buying an XBOX 360 just for this game. Alright, here's my question....CAN YOU SHOOT THE DOG OLD YELLER STYLE? I'd so love to shoot that dog right in the arse. Like most hunting games, where if you shoot a deer in the arse with an arrow, you lose the deer AND the arrow remains sticking in the deer's arse. Tyler Warren (talk/contribs) 09:30, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- Forgot to mention, I'm one of the few people who chose "Arseface" in Fable: TLC just so I could punch whoever called me Arseface. I also punched children and punted chickens into the sea, and I even beat my wife when she said "I could have had a career!" Yeah, I'm a real bastard, I know. Tyler Warren (talk/contribs) 09:35, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
- The talk page is for improving the article, not for fan discussion. Just FYI. QuasiAbstract (talk) 14:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
- That said... You probably CAN shoot the dog...
PC Version
Any chance of it coming to PC? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.204.103.52 (talk) 16:57, 3 December 2007 (UTC)