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'''Welcome!'''


{{unblock| Why is JzG so mean to me?????????????????????? JzG says I am a sock???? He read the checkuser wrong! [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Profg]] I have been very good and even created 2 DKY articles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have done no fighting and even stayed away from that controversial article. Actually, I was trying to write in the Writers Guild of America strike (2007–present) article where there is an error. Famous news website back up that the Wikipedia article has an error. Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need to fix that wikipedia error now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JzG has blocked me even though he writes I don't mind your setting an expiry, provided you are content to assist in monitoring this editor's behaviour and reblocking if the problems continue. NOTE: I HAVE BEEN MONITORED BY ARCHTRANSIT AND HAVE BEEN A VERY GOOD PERSON<b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 21:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC). ----------------Since he wrote that, there is absolutely nothing that I have written that is bad behavior or any problems. JzG has been proved wrong yet he is blocking? ------------------Sandstein writes I agree that an immediate indefinite block might not be warranted. ----------------Mangojuice writes On the one hand, you have a point: disclaiming EVERYthing with "claims" or "alleges" gets to a point where it sounds like the article is purposely painting a negative picture.....Even better, I have not edit warred with this point, which Mangojuice says is a valid point. ----------------Archtransit writes The unblocking is automatically set for 48 hours from now....Please be reasonable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I need to be unblock now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every minute I wait is agony!!!!!!!!!! Unblock first and then you can investigate. Don't leave me locked up in this jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is pure agony, help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know YOU are reading this because I saw someone else taken off the category:unblock page. Please stop this agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop the beating! Oooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, it hurts. Stop the pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jimbo Wales, are you awake??????????? He's asleep, please YOU do the unblock. Sock? There is NOBODY who is editing like me. I was trying to get the film article is fit the Film Manual of Style-nobody was trying to do that. Then I stayed away from that article. Please stop this agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you need to ask anyone, ask Archtransit. Please stop the pain!!!!!}} [[User:Fairchoice|Fairchoice]] ([[User talk:Fairchoice#top|talk]]) 19:10, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
Hello, Fairchoice, and [[Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers|welcome]] to Wikipedia! Thank you for [[Special:Contributions/{{PAGENAME}}|your contributions]]. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your edits {{#if:{{{1|}}}|to the page [[:{{{1}}}]]}} have not conformed to '''[[Wikipedia:Neutral point of view|Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV)]]''', and have been reverted. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.


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Hi there

== Other accounts? ==

Hi - given that you've jumped into some fairly heated debates, may I ask if you edit using any other accounts, or if your participation here was solicited? '''[[User:MastCell|MastCell]]''' <sup>[[User Talk:MastCell|Talk]]</sup> 22:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

== January 2008 ==
{{{icon|[[Image:Information.svg|25px]]}}} Thank you for making a report {{#if:{{{1|}}}|about {{userblock|{{{1}}}}}}} at [[Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism]]. Reporting and removing vandalism is vital to the functioning of Wikipedia and [[Wikipedia:Cleaning up vandalism|all users are encouraged]] to revert, warn against, and report vandalism. Your report was not a case of obvious vandalism, and as a result, the user has not been blocked and the request may have been removed from the page. Next time please use [[Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents]] for reporting a complex abuse or refer to [[Wikipedia:Resolving disputes]] if you have a dispute with the user. {{{{{subst|}}}#if:{{{2|}}}|{{{2}}}|Thank you.}} [[User:Ioeth|Ioeth]] <sub>([[User_talk:Ioeth|talk]] [[Special:Contributions/Ioeth|contribs]] [[WP:FRIENDLY|friendly]])</sub> 21:46, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

== Removal of the dispute ==

Hi - I removed the dispute from [[WP:AIV]] because it's not a clear case of vandalism, which is all that's handled there. You're welcome to list it at [[WP:ANI]], though I don't think it'll get far. Please '''do not''' readd it to AIV, it's inappropriate for that venue. - [[User:Philippe|Philippe]] &#124; [[User talk:Philippe|Talk]] 21:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
:Can I also remind you that your post was only removed from the talk page temporarily, as it should have been at the bottom of the page. The editor concerned wrote his response at the same time as moving the post to the bottom - [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed&diff=next&oldid=187779679]. '''''<font color="#FF0000">[[User:Hut 8.5|Hut 8.5]]</font>''''' 21:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

==ID==
Hi, I see you're interested in [[intelligent design]]. Articles have to comply with Wikipedia's '''Neutral Point of View''' policy ([[WP:NPOV]]). The sections of the [[WP:NPOV]] that are particularly relevant are:
*'''[[Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/FAQ#Pseudoscience|NPOV: Pseudoscience]]'''
*'''[[Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#Undue_weight|NPOV: Undue weight]]'''
*'''[[Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/FAQ#Making_necessary_assumptions|NPOV: Making necessary assumptions]]'''
*'''[[Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/FAQ#Giving_.22equal_validity.22|NPOV: Giving "equal validity"]].'''
Hope you find that a useful clarification. .. [[User:Dave souza|dave souza]], [[User talk:Dave souza|talk]] 21:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

== Warning ==

Wikipedia is not in any need of people coming here to pursue crusades or ideological agendas. If you carry on as you are, then your editing career may be short and turbulent. Please take the time to read [[WP:5P|the five pillars of Wikipedia]], and above all, check your opinions at the door. Not everybody can do this, those who can are valued contributors, those who cannot may be [[WP:BP|shown the door]]. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 23:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Several people have tried to explain the problem to you, and you have failed to listen. Simply saying that, in effect, "this article is teh suck", helps nobody. Please stop attacking everybody on the project who disagrees with you (which as far as I can see is everybody you've come across thus far), and start making concrete, specific, positive and actionable suggestions. "This is POV" is useless to us, "I suggest changing paragraph 3 to read as follows:" and some line-by-line suggestions would be helpful in a way that everything you've done so far is not. Please take this to heart and act on it. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 14:53, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

== Blocked ==

Since you have continued your [[WP:TE|tendentious editing]] and have failed to acknowledge or learn form the numerous good faith comments made to you, I have [[WP:BP|blocked]] you from editing. <b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 19:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)


{{unblock reviewed|1=All I am saying is that we need a neutral unbiased description of the film and THEN bash the film. Wikipedia NPOV instructions forbid bashing the film when describing the plot and further bashing the film Furthermore, indefinite block is abuse of the admins power and shows his temper. He will justify it by his "warning" but it was just a show and an excuse because he wanted to do it and said he would (said your editing career will be short). I am no religious zealot and want to bash the film but in a fair way. All my writings have been explained in talk pages and have been modified after objections even though the objectors never compromised and often didn't explain. Wikipedia should NOT let JzG block all others except those that agree.-----Look at my last talk page edit....I follow WP MOS, if not please tell me what is in violation. We have consensus for NPOV. IF you violate NPOV, you violate consensus, even if you have a mob of POV warriors. Let's make sure we don't violate NPOV. What's the opposition to my edits as I have added nothing pro-film, just removed NPOV. I have kept paragraphs and just moved them around so the anti-film stuff is together.Fairchoice (talk) 19:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed" That is NOT tenacious editing. I kept other's paragraphs and just made a small organizational change to see if reasonable people would agree and as a small step in fixing the article. I am being blocked for ideological reasons. ---- There is a serious flaw with the blocking administrator. He says that I am not NPOV but he is but look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV#Let_the_facts_speak_for_themselves By this, we must describe the film in a neutral way before we bash it, we shouldn't have a negative description of the plot to begin with and then bash it...............http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG/help By the blocking administrator's own instructions, I will go through dispute resolution. Unblock me to allow this if you want me to take this route, if you don't, then unblock me and let me explain on talk pages the NPOV way|decline=You are not blocked for your opinions, but for your unseemly conduct. I am inclined to agree with JzG's assessment, in particular given your unnecessarily aggressive unblock request ("everyone but me is the problem!"), but I agree that an immediate indefinite block might not be warranted. I may be inclined to talk with JzG about unblocking you if you convince me that you have understood why you are blocked and show how you intend to productively contribute in accordance with our norms of conduct, preferably to some other article than [[Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed]]. — [[User:Sandstein|Sandstein]] ([[User talk:Sandstein|talk]]) 20:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)}}
{{unblock reviewed|1=All I am saying is that we need a neutral unbiased description of the film and THEN bash the film. Wikipedia NPOV instructions forbid bashing the film when describing the plot and further bashing the film Furthermore, indefinite block is abuse of the admins power and shows his temper. He will justify it by his "warning" but it was just a show and an excuse because he wanted to do it and said he would (said your editing career will be short). I am no religious zealot and want to bash the film but in a fair way. All my writings have been explained in talk pages and have been modified after objections even though the objectors never compromised and often didn't explain. Wikipedia should NOT let JzG block all others except those that agree.-----Look at my last talk page edit....I follow WP MOS, if not please tell me what is in violation. We have consensus for NPOV. IF you violate NPOV, you violate consensus, even if you have a mob of POV warriors. Let's make sure we don't violate NPOV. What's the opposition to my edits as I have added nothing pro-film, just removed NPOV. I have kept paragraphs and just moved them around so the anti-film stuff is together.Fairchoice (talk) 19:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed" That is NOT tenacious editing. I kept other's paragraphs and just made a small organizational change to see if reasonable people would agree and as a small step in fixing the article. I am being blocked for ideological reasons. ---- There is a serious flaw with the blocking administrator. He says that I am not NPOV but he is but look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV#Let_the_facts_speak_for_themselves By this, we must describe the film in a neutral way before we bash it, we shouldn't have a negative description of the plot to begin with and then bash it...............http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG/help By the blocking administrator's own instructions, I will go through dispute resolution. Unblock me to allow this if you want me to take this route, if you don't, then unblock me and let me explain on talk pages the NPOV way|decline=You are not blocked for your opinions, but for your unseemly conduct. I am inclined to agree with JzG's assessment, in particular given your unnecessarily aggressive unblock request ("everyone but me is the problem!"), but I agree that an immediate indefinite block might not be warranted. I may be inclined to talk with JzG about unblocking you if you convince me that you have understood why you are blocked and show how you intend to productively contribute in accordance with our norms of conduct, preferably to some other article than [[Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed]]. — [[User:Sandstein|Sandstein]] ([[User talk:Sandstein|talk]]) 20:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)}}



{{unblock reviewed|1=I may be inclined to talk with JzG about unblocking you if you convince me that you have understood why you are blocked and show how you intend to productively contribute in accordance with our norms of conduct, preferably to some other article than Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed.......Thank you for your offer. I must say that it is a conflict of interest to ask JzG for his opinion because he has every reason to defend his own block. Even you question that indefinite block is not right. I intend to offer useful criticism and solutions to improve the article. The repeated use of the word "claims" is negative. You don't use that in other articles (you don't say that Bush or Clinton or Gordon Brown claims...). I hope to fix that. I want a neutral article that includes plenty of criticism, not a biased article that is hell bent on slamming the film. After some minor fixes, I can move to other completely different articles, like botany and football. In contrast, religious zealots want no criticism and abortion zealots want total criticism. I am the voice of reason|decline=Taking a look at your contributions, I see that the block is completely justified. Have you even read [[WP:NPOV]]? — [[User:Yamla|Yamla]] ([[User talk:Yamla|talk]]) 20:19, 30 January 2008 (UTC)}}


:On the one hand, you have a point: disclaiming EVERYthing with "claims" or "alleges" gets to a point where it sounds like the article is purposely painting a negative picture. And the article may be unbalanced. On the other hand, your solution to this was to remove ''all'' the language that describes the things in the film as claims, which distorts things badly in the opposite direction, and apparently did so repeatedly. [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<span style="color:orange">'''juice'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 20:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
:On the one hand, you have a point: disclaiming EVERYthing with "claims" or "alleges" gets to a point where it sounds like the article is purposely painting a negative picture. And the article may be unbalanced. On the other hand, your solution to this was to remove ''all'' the language that describes the things in the film as claims, which distorts things badly in the opposite direction, and apparently did so repeatedly. [[User:Mangojuice|Mango]][[Special:Contributions/Mangojuice|<span style="color:orange">'''juice'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Mangojuice|talk]]</sup> 20:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
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I am shocked that someone would compare me to Profg. I am not pro-intelligent design. I merely want a neutral summary of the plot of the film. After that section, then others are slam the film. When you see the plot in other Wikipedia articles, commentary of the film comes after the plot. [[User:Fairchoice|Fairchoice]] ([[User talk:Fairchoice#top|talk]]) 20:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
I am shocked that someone would compare me to Profg. I am not pro-intelligent design. I merely want a neutral summary of the plot of the film. After that section, then others are slam the film. When you see the plot in other Wikipedia articles, commentary of the film comes after the plot. [[User:Fairchoice|Fairchoice]] ([[User talk:Fairchoice#top|talk]]) 20:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
:As I have explained to you previously, this is generally frowned upon and deprecated. Want the links to read up on the policy?

:This is often frowned upon according to the policies and principles of Wikipedia.

:For example, from [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view#_note-5]: ''Examples that may warrant attention include "Segregation" of text or other content into different regions or subsections, based solely on the apparent POV of the content itself. Article sections devoted solely to criticism, or "pro and con" sections within articles are two commonly cited examples. There are varying views on whether and to what extent such kinds of article structure are appropriate.'' (See e.g., [[Wikipedia:Words_to_avoid#Article_structure]], [[Template:Criticism-section]]).--[[User:Filll|Filll]] ([[User talk:Filll|talk]]) 21:11, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek_Nemesis There is a plot section. Expelled should have the same. In the Nemesis article, later there is a description of the bloopers (why the film is bad) and deleted scenes. The Expelled should have the same thing. First a neutral description of the scenes in the film. Later there should be analysis of the film. This analysis should be NPOV but CAN include some harsh criticism.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devil_in_the_Flesh_%281986_film%29 The 2nd paragraph describes the film in a neutral way. A separate paragraph (3rd) talks about the sex controversy. [[User:Fairchoice|Fairchoice]] ([[User talk:Fairchoice#top|talk]]) 21:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


:We cannot be responsible for all articles on WP. We can only work on a few. And the consensus was that this format is appropriate for this film, and as you can see by the links above, is encouraged by many on WP. So you are free to disagree with that choice and the consensus and WP policy, but you are not free to force others to adopt your position. Thanks.--[[User:Filll|Filll]] ([[User talk:Filll|talk]]) 21:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

See [[MOS:FILM]]. I only want to follow the Manual of Style. We NEED a plot section. Even if we waterdown the plot section and simply list the actors and the scenes and leave out what the actors advocate, we need a plot section.[[User:Fairchoice|Fairchoice]] ([[User talk:Fairchoice#top|talk]]) 21:42, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

:Actually neither of us has seen the film, so we cannot do more than talk about what is in the early reviews, the trailers, the interviews, the other controversies in the press. Maybe in about 4 or 5 or 6 months there will be enough information around to rewrite it, possibly in a fashion that you suggest. For now, we don't know much, do we?--[[User:Filll|Filll]] ([[User talk:Filll|talk]]) 22:05, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

So the plot section should be short and just include a few known facts like who is being interviewed. [[User:Fairchoice|Fairchoice]] ([[User talk:Fairchoice#top|talk]]) 22:52, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


:Since the movie is not out yet, why not delete the whole thing? Go ahead and put it up for AfD. Let's see what people think. --[[User:Filll|Filll]] ([[User talk:Filll|talk]]) 22:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

::A serious proposal? You can nominate it for AFD. I will not. [[User:Fairchoice|Fairchoice]] ([[User talk:Fairchoice#top|talk]]) 23:28, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

You are the one complaining. I am not. I wrote 95% of it. And I just included a few more K of positive material. So....--[[User:Filll|Filll]] ([[User talk:Filll|talk]]) 23:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

:You wrote 95% of it? You have done a lot of writing! As I said, my main interest is to keep a factual, neutral plot section near the beginning of the article. The people section is sort of that section now - that's ok with me. [[User:Fairchoice|Fairchoice]] ([[User talk:Fairchoice#top|talk]]) 23:53, 1 February 2008 (UTC)


Well maybe like 85% or so. Of the 536 edits, I made 136 of them. Many of the other edits were in edit wars etc.--[[User:Filll|Filll]] ([[User talk:Filll|talk]]) 00:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)


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Why is JzG so mean to me?????????????????????? JzG says I am a sock???? He read the checkuser wrong! Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Profg I have been very good and even created 2 DKY articles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have done no fighting and even stayed away from that controversial article. Actually, I was trying to write in the Writers Guild of America strike (2007–present) article where there is an error. Famous news website back up that the Wikipedia article has an error. Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need to fix that wikipedia error now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JzG has blocked me even though he writes I don't mind your setting an expiry, provided you are content to assist in monitoring this editor's behaviour and reblocking if the problems continue. NOTE: I HAVE BEEN MONITORED BY ARCHTRANSIT AND HAVE BEEN A VERY GOOD PERSONGuy (Help!) 21:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC). ----------------Since he wrote that, there is absolutely nothing that I have written that is bad behavior or any problems. JzG has been proved wrong yet he is blocking? ------------------Sandstein writes I agree that an immediate indefinite block might not be warranted. ----------------Mangojuice writes On the one hand, you have a point: disclaiming EVERYthing with "claims" or "alleges" gets to a point where it sounds like the article is purposely painting a negative picture.....Even better, I have not edit warred with this point, which Mangojuice says is a valid point. ----------------Archtransit writes The unblocking is automatically set for 48 hours from now....Please be reasonable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I need to be unblock now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every minute I wait is agony!!!!!!!!!! Unblock first and then you can investigate. Don't leave me locked up in this jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is pure agony, help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know YOU are reading this because I saw someone else taken off the category:unblock page. Please stop this agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop the beating! Oooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, it hurts. Stop the pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jimbo Wales, are you awake??????????? He's asleep, please YOU do the unblock. Sock? There is NOBODY who is editing like me. I was trying to get the film article is fit the Film Manual of Style-nobody was trying to do that. Then I stayed away from that article. Please stop this agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you need to ask anyone, ask Archtransit. Please stop the pain!!!!![reply]

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{{unblock reviewed |1= Why is JzG so mean to me?????????????????????? JzG says I am a sock???? He read the checkuser wrong! [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Profg]] I have been very good and even created 2 DKY articles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have done no fighting and even stayed away from that controversial article. Actually, I was trying to write in the Writers Guild of America strike (2007–present) article where there is an error. Famous news website back up that the Wikipedia article has an error. Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need to fix that wikipedia error now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JzG has blocked me even though he writes I don't mind your setting an expiry, provided you are content to assist in monitoring this editor's behaviour and reblocking if the problems continue. NOTE: I HAVE BEEN MONITORED BY ARCHTRANSIT AND HAVE BEEN A VERY GOOD PERSON<b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 21:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC). ----------------Since he wrote that, there is absolutely nothing that I have written that is bad behavior or any problems. JzG has been proved wrong yet he is blocking? ------------------Sandstein writes I agree that an immediate indefinite block might not be warranted. ----------------Mangojuice writes On the one hand, you have a point: disclaiming EVERYthing with "claims" or "alleges" gets to a point where it sounds like the article is purposely painting a negative picture.....Even better, I have not edit warred with this point, which Mangojuice says is a valid point. ----------------Archtransit writes The unblocking is automatically set for 48 hours from now....Please be reasonable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I need to be unblock now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every minute I wait is agony!!!!!!!!!! Unblock first and then you can investigate. Don't leave me locked up in this jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is pure agony, help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know YOU are reading this because I saw someone else taken off the category:unblock page. Please stop this agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop the beating! Oooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, it hurts. Stop the pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jimbo Wales, are you awake??????????? He's asleep, please YOU do the unblock. Sock? There is NOBODY who is editing like me. I was trying to get the film article is fit the Film Manual of Style-nobody was trying to do that. Then I stayed away from that article. Please stop this agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you need to ask anyone, ask Archtransit. Please stop the pain!!!!! |decline = {{subst:Decline reason here}} ~~~~}}

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{{unblock reviewed |1= Why is JzG so mean to me?????????????????????? JzG says I am a sock???? He read the checkuser wrong! [[Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Profg]] I have been very good and even created 2 DKY articles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have done no fighting and even stayed away from that controversial article. Actually, I was trying to write in the Writers Guild of America strike (2007–present) article where there is an error. Famous news website back up that the Wikipedia article has an error. Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need to fix that wikipedia error now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JzG has blocked me even though he writes I don't mind your setting an expiry, provided you are content to assist in monitoring this editor's behaviour and reblocking if the problems continue. NOTE: I HAVE BEEN MONITORED BY ARCHTRANSIT AND HAVE BEEN A VERY GOOD PERSON<b>[[User Talk:JzG|Guy]]</b> <small>([[User:JzG/help|Help!]])</small> 21:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC). ----------------Since he wrote that, there is absolutely nothing that I have written that is bad behavior or any problems. JzG has been proved wrong yet he is blocking? ------------------Sandstein writes I agree that an immediate indefinite block might not be warranted. ----------------Mangojuice writes On the one hand, you have a point: disclaiming EVERYthing with "claims" or "alleges" gets to a point where it sounds like the article is purposely painting a negative picture.....Even better, I have not edit warred with this point, which Mangojuice says is a valid point. ----------------Archtransit writes The unblocking is automatically set for 48 hours from now....Please be reasonable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I need to be unblock now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every minute I wait is agony!!!!!!!!!! Unblock first and then you can investigate. Don't leave me locked up in this jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is pure agony, help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know YOU are reading this because I saw someone else taken off the category:unblock page. Please stop this agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop the beating! Oooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, it hurts. Stop the pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jimbo Wales, are you awake??????????? He's asleep, please YOU do the unblock. Sock? There is NOBODY who is editing like me. I was trying to get the film article is fit the Film Manual of Style-nobody was trying to do that. Then I stayed away from that article. Please stop this agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you need to ask anyone, ask Archtransit. Please stop the pain!!!!! |accept = accept reason here ~~~~}}

Fairchoice (talk) 19:10, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Fairchoice (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

All I am saying is that we need a neutral unbiased description of the film and THEN bash the film. Wikipedia NPOV instructions forbid bashing the film when describing the plot and further bashing the film Furthermore, indefinite block is abuse of the admins power and shows his temper. He will justify it by his "warning" but it was just a show and an excuse because he wanted to do it and said he would (said your editing career will be short). I am no religious zealot and want to bash the film but in a fair way. All my writings have been explained in talk pages and have been modified after objections even though the objectors never compromised and often didn't explain. Wikipedia should NOT let JzG block all others except those that agree.-----Look at my last talk page edit....I follow WP MOS, if not please tell me what is in violation. We have consensus for NPOV. IF you violate NPOV, you violate consensus, even if you have a mob of POV warriors. Let's make sure we don't violate NPOV. What's the opposition to my edits as I have added nothing pro-film, just removed NPOV. I have kept paragraphs and just moved them around so the anti-film stuff is together.Fairchoice (talk) 19:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC) Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Expelled:_No_Intelligence_Allowed" That is NOT tenacious editing. I kept other's paragraphs and just made a small organizational change to see if reasonable people would agree and as a small step in fixing the article. I am being blocked for ideological reasons. ---- There is a serious flaw with the blocking administrator. He says that I am not NPOV but he is but look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NPOV#Let_the_facts_speak_for_themselves By this, we must describe the film in a neutral way before we bash it, we shouldn't have a negative description of the plot to begin with and then bash it...............http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG/help By the blocking administrator's own instructions, I will go through dispute resolution. Unblock me to allow this if you want me to take this route, if you don't, then unblock me and let me explain on talk pages the NPOV way

Decline reason:

You are not blocked for your opinions, but for your unseemly conduct. I am inclined to agree with JzG's assessment, in particular given your unnecessarily aggressive unblock request ("everyone but me is the problem!"), but I agree that an immediate indefinite block might not be warranted. I may be inclined to talk with JzG about unblocking you if you convince me that you have understood why you are blocked and show how you intend to productively contribute in accordance with our norms of conduct, preferably to some other article than Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed. — Sandstein (talk) 20:02, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]


If you want to make any further unblock requests, please read the guide to appealing blocks first, then use the {{unblock}} template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired. Do not remove this unblock review while you are blocked.


On the one hand, you have a point: disclaiming EVERYthing with "claims" or "alleges" gets to a point where it sounds like the article is purposely painting a negative picture. And the article may be unbalanced. On the other hand, your solution to this was to remove all the language that describes the things in the film as claims, which distorts things badly in the opposite direction, and apparently did so repeatedly. Mangojuicetalk 20:34, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Advice:
1. Do not be angry.
2. Take Mangofuice's advice, edit slowly and with discussion even if others don't discuss. You are here to improve Wikipedia even if other's don't.
3. Proofread your edits so that there is no accusatory tone, which may even be unintended.
4. I'm not unblocking you right now because this would create controversy. Cooperation, even if I don't fully agree, is necessary. Note to other admins: My reasons for unblock are as a result of others comments, see Sandstein "but I agree that an immediate indefinite block might not be warranted." and Mangojuice "On the one hand, you have a point: disclaiming EVERYthing with "claims" or "alleges" gets to a point where it sounds like the article is purposely painting a negative picture. And the article may be unbalanced." Archtransit (talk) 20:46, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have been unblocked. The unblocking is automatically set for 48 hours from now. Have a cup of tea and come back on Friday. Archtransit (talk) 20:51, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • The reason I did not set a block expiry is that this user has shown absolutely no sign of accepting that there is any problem with his behaviour. I don't mind your setting an expiry, provided you are content to assist in monitoring this editor's behaviour and reblocking if the problems continue. I'm not convinced this user has any intention of being anything other than a warrior, but would be happy to be proved wrong. Guy (Help!) 21:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Advice

If you want to change a "claim" or two to "state", so what. However, we do not just cut huge swaths of sourced material out of an article because you personally do not like it. There was far more material supporting the film's thesis as I wrote to you a couple of times before, and it was removed because people thought it was too much of a paen of praise to the film. I disagree and would like my material that is pro-creationist and pro-ID restored. The answer is not to remove what you do not like in a fit of pique, but to restore the balancing material so one has a fuller article. I said this to you a couple of times and somehow this has not quite sunk in. Do you understand what I am saying here? You cannot do what you have been doing or you will get more blocks etc. We can put the previously deleted material that is pro-ID and pro-creationist back in however for balance. Get it?--Filll (talk) 22:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ever helpful, I've added some advice on the talk page.[1] In a nutshell, study the linked policies carefully, and discuss your proposals on the article talk page instead of edit warring. .. dave souza, talk 22:30, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I am back

I am back. Of course, I am going to be good. You will notice that I did not create any sockpuppets to edit the movie article.

I am shocked that someone would compare me to Profg. I am not pro-intelligent design. I merely want a neutral summary of the plot of the film. After that section, then others are slam the film. When you see the plot in other Wikipedia articles, commentary of the film comes after the plot. Fairchoice (talk) 20:51, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


continued advice

Several people object to your unblock. Don't make me have egg on my face. Edit responsibly. Consider a diversity of articles to edit, not just the film article. With the film article, think carefully before editing, if you edit it at all. With Dana Telsey, you can probably rapidly change the article with just a little discussion. That's not so with the film article. Archtransit (talk) 16:32, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Updated DYK query On 5 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Anna Loginova, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Daniel Case (talk) 17:34, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

DYK!

Updated DYK query On 6 February, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Dana Telsey, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Congratulations! Ruhrfisch ><>°° 19:51, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This user is asking that their block be reviewed:

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Why is JzG so mean to me?????????????????????? JzG says I am a sock???? He read the checkuser wrong! Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Profg I have been very good and even created 2 DKY articles!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have done no fighting and even stayed away from that controversial article. Actually, I was trying to write in the Writers Guild of America strike (2007–present) article where there is an error. Famous news website back up that the Wikipedia article has an error. Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I need to fix that wikipedia error now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JzG has blocked me even though he writes I don't mind your setting an expiry, provided you are content to assist in monitoring this editor's behaviour and reblocking if the problems continue. NOTE: I HAVE BEEN MONITORED BY ARCHTRANSIT AND HAVE BEEN A VERY GOOD PERSONGuy (Help!) 21:55, 30 January 2008 (UTC). ----------------Since he wrote that, there is absolutely nothing that I have written that is bad behavior or any problems. JzG has been proved wrong yet he is blocking? ------------------Sandstein writes I agree that an immediate indefinite block might not be warranted. ----------------Mangojuice writes On the one hand, you have a point: disclaiming EVERYthing with "claims" or "alleges" gets to a point where it sounds like the article is purposely painting a negative picture.....Even better, I have not edit warred with this point, which Mangojuice says is a valid point. ----------------Archtransit writes The unblocking is automatically set for 48 hours from now....Please be reasonable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I need to be unblock now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Every minute I wait is agony!!!!!!!!!! Unblock first and then you can investigate. Don't leave me locked up in this jail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is pure agony, help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know YOU are reading this because I saw someone else taken off the category:unblock page. Please stop this agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stop the beating! Oooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, it hurts. Stop the pain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jimbo Wales, are you awake??????????? He's asleep, please YOU do the unblock. Sock? There is NOBODY who is editing like me. I was trying to get the film article is fit the Film Manual of Style-nobody was trying to do that. Then I stayed away from that article. Please stop this agony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you need to ask anyone, ask Archtransit. Please stop the pain!!!!![reply]

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Fairchoice (talk) 19:10, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]