However it is hard to find more references on the atolls. I think a google book search may be helpful. Or if you can find name of books, you can mention it in the articles. '''[[User:Otolemur crassicaudatus|<font color="002bb8">Otolemur crassicaudatus</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus|talk]]) 07:55, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
However it is hard to find more references on the atolls. I think a google book search may be helpful. Or if you can find name of books, you can mention it in the articles. '''[[User:Otolemur crassicaudatus|<font color="002bb8">Otolemur crassicaudatus</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus|talk]]) 07:55, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
:Have a look at [http://books.google.com/books?id=PmfN7nPBO3sC&pg=RA1-PA207&dq=Manuhangi&lr=lang_en&num=100&as_brr=3&sig=uR-elyORPJaUJaDJ9jg2GNZNxT4
this reference]. It support the fact that Manuhangi has no permanent inhabitant. It may be used. '''[[User:Otolemur crassicaudatus|<font color="002bb8">Otolemur crassicaudatus</font>]]''' ([[User talk:Otolemur crassicaudatus|talk]]) 08:09, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
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Re:question on images
Hello oblivious. I am glad that you are welcoming me.
Please frogive me my ignorance but I would like to know how to place an image (a small picture file) in an article. I am not getting any wiser with the helps. There seems to be no simple way. Thank you againMohonu12:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
No Mohonu, it is simpler. Let me break it down for you
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Thanks for your comments. I would not have been so confused if I had found a link or a comment on the amended page - perhaps I missed them? Anyway, the info is interesting and the reversion to "Addu" is tidier from an WWII historical point of view. I had thought that the naval base warranted a page to itself, as it is so separate. Folks at 13717:42, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Mohunu, I like your map Peros banhos.PNG. Would you consider adding some information to it: to draw a dashed line from the east point of Île Fouquet to the east point of Moresby Island, and marking the area east of it as "Peros Banhos Atoll Strict Nature Reserve". Thank you.--Ratzer08:02, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't seen it on a map either, but the description talks about a straight line between the easternmost points of those islands (which I understand as neither cutting through the islands nor even one feet east of any island, just touching them).--Ratzer09:05, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, the Strict Nature Reserves are explained here:[1]. I will look through that document to see what I can take from there.--Ratzer11:30, 18 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Re: Maps disappeared
Hello Oblivious. I have noticed that some maps of the atolls of the Maldives have disappeared. For example Kaafu Atoll. Something seems to be wrong.Mohonu07:00, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, my mistake. There was a call to png image when it really was a jpg and since there wasnt a png file with this name in either wikipedia or commons, mediawiki (wikipedia software) generated this error --Oblivious13:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Chagos map.PNG: unnamed Bank?
Hi there. Can you provide a source of the unnamed bank on the map, in the very north of the archipelago (north of Colvo Reef, northeast of Speakers reef). The Indian Ocean Pilot [2] says on page 104 that Speakers Bank is the farthest north of banks in the archipelago.--Ratzer14:37, 19 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Re:Ithaa
Oblivious, I have a question about the whole Ithaa restaurant article. Is it OK in Wikipedia to promote a certain restaurant? It looks like an advertisement to me and its presence dubious in an Encyclopedia. I might be wrong though. That is why I am asking you.Mohonu15:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Usually such articles are considered advertisement unless there is something notable about the place in question. In Ithaa's case it is notable for encyclopedia because it is the first of its kinds — first underwater restaurant. --Oblivious14:17, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Maldivian numbers
Hello there. I am trying to find Maldivian numbers written in Thanna script. I've searched the net but can only find transliterations. What I want is the numbers written in the actual grammar of Thanna. So, 'one' is 'ekeh', but how is this written using the letters of Thanna ? Thanks in advance. MP (talk)09:10, 22 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]
What's with all the anti-americanism tags?
I thought you might be a vandal because you are tagging stuff which is dubious. Please make sure the cat is appropriate to the article and that you're not trying to make a point. <<-armon->>10:31, 5 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I tagged one of the articles with the "Merge" tag. If you feel like it, you can merge them yourself, just make sure people agree on the spelling of the name. Happy editing! KNewman05:26, 22 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, Mohonu! I've made redirects to Nordenskiöld Archipelago, just like you suggested. Why are you interested in this topic (I mean, Kara Sea and its islands etc.)? Where are you from yourself? Just want to get acquainted with you. KNewman18:15, 24 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Mohonu, nice work on many articles about islands. I have a couple of minor questions. First, is there a particular reason to go with the German-style romanization Sibiryakow instead of the more usual Sibiryakov? Second, I get zero hits on Google searching for Oстрова фaддея, even without quotes. Is it really so minor that there's nothing about the islands on the web in Russian? Do you have Russian-language sources? Thanks. --Reuben20:54, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
If Britannica uses Sibiryakow, it's well enough established that we can keep it as is. I don't doubt your info about the Faddeya Islands, I was just quite surprised and wonder if perhaps there could be another name. --Reuben06:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
should be either Komsomolskaya Pravda Islands or Komsomolskoy Pravdy Islands (i.e. dropping or preserving the Russian genitive). Any objection if I move to Komsomolskoy Pravdy Islands? --Reuben21:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think most of the Komsomolskaya Pravda Islands hits are about these islands. There are lots of pages that mention Komsomolskaya Pravda and islands, and only a very few that are actually talking about the Komsomolskaya Pravda Islands. Komsomolskoy Pravdy Islands seems to be the most common, and as far as I can tell, Komsomolsky Pravdy is just a misspelling. --Reuben21:07, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I had assumed you were a Russian speaker based on the articles you created! My Russian is only intermediate, but I can find + translate articles you have a need for. --Reuben18:11, 26 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Zhelonskyy Islands
Nothing for Zhelonsky, but they could be the Shelonsky Islands: group of islands located in the east of the Yansky Gulf of the Laptev Sea. [4]. I find some hits under "Shelonskiye Islands." --Reuben19:06, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
All I was able to glean is that the main Shelonsky Islands are Vostochny (=eastern) and Zapadny (=western). Makar and others seem to be nearby but not included within the Shelonsky Islands. This page mentions Makar [5] and indicates that it's marshy. This map [6] has a locator dot for Makar, and Vostochy Shelonsky is the island just S and slightly E of it. This site [7] has a few Makar pictures. --Reuben18:22, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nordvik
Dumping links for now:
[8] description of 1990 tourist/research trip, mentions camp closed in mid 1940's when Americans arrived in Nordvik (presumably war related?)
[9] notes from same trip, mentions settlement closed in 1956, prison camp closed mid 1940's, worked by internal deportees rather than prisoners after camp closure
I always use native foreign names rather than their back-transliterations from Russian. If you're certain that "Vize" is a more common form, feel free to rename the page. --Ghirla-трёп-21:04, 29 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Ob islands
They're in the Gulf of Ob, near the mouth of the river and far from the open sea, but just above the Arctic Circle. There's a nature reserve that includes some of the islands. Documents here [11], map of the islands you asked about here [12]. Actually, the Arctic Circle passes right through Narechi Island around longitude 71.5 E. --Reuben08:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
According to the official name of the wetlands preserve, these islands are in the Gulf of Ob of the Kara Sea. Very nice map, by the way. I agree they are a bit out of place in the Kara Sea article, but how about this: describe the islands in Gulf of Ob, and then add a brief description of the Gulf of Ob to Kara Sea, including a mention of islands. --Reuben19:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Firnley & Geiberg islands
Random finds... here's a description in English: [13], see pg. 30: "From the west the Geiberg Islands are covering the entrance to the Vilkitski Strait from the east – the Firnleya Islands. The coasts are covered with tundra vegetation and stony scattering. On the north and the south they are raised above the sea level, but the northern coast is mainly higher then the south. The rivers, which are flowing into the Strait, became shallow to the beginning of the navigation and aren’t significant." There's a description of sightings of wolves and other wild animals on Geiberg. [14] A polar meteorological station was established on Geiberg in 1940 to aid navigation of the northern sea route [15]. A first-person account of the Taymyr's voyage in 1938, including a bear hunt and snow blindness on Geiberg Islands: [16]. An account of a ski expedition in 1994 mentions that the polar station is abandoned, with millions of rubles of equipment still there: [17]. Variant Romanizations are Firnley, Firnleya, Geyberg, Geyberga, Geiberg, Geiberga. --Reuben19:11, 4 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Island names etc.
Hi Mohonu, I'm not editing Wikipedia articles myself right now, but I'm sure your work will be top-notch when you get back after the weekend. Good question about the names. If you haven't seen it already, you'll probably be very happy to learn that Nansen's book is online at Google Books: [18]. There are even a few pictures! Most of the island names can be easily understood if you read the list of financial backers for the expedition at the beginning of Chapter 2. Consul Axel Heiberg is #1 on the list of private individuals. Also listed are Mr. Thos. Fearnley, merchant; and Messrs. Ringnes & Co, brewers. There are no occurrences of "Mona" in the book! Based on this site [19] the Mona Islands were also named by the Nansen expedition, but I can't explain the name. Nansen doesn't seem to have married... --Reuben06:54, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It turns out Nansen did marry, it's just not mentioned in our article for some reason. His wife was Eva Sars. Interesting bio in another online book here [20].--Reuben23:25, 5 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Mona Island
Hi there, Mohunu! I did some research, and you know what's funny? Most of the articles in Russian Google refer to Mona, Puerto Rico, an island in the Carribbean :). Your guess about Mona being a female name was a bit off course, although there is such a name. My guess would be that the island is named after some gentleman, whose last name was Mon (Mona is a genetive case, meaning "island of Mon"). Now we have to find out who that Mon was. I enjoy reading your articles about the Kara Sea islands, so keep up the good work and let me know if you need any help! Take care. KNewman17:21, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I got it! Here's what I found: "HENRIK MOHN (1835-1916), Norwegian meteorologist, was born at Bergen May 15 1835, his family being of German origin. He was educated at the Cathedral school, Bergen, and afterwards entered the university of Christiania, where he took his doctor's degree in 1852. In 1861 he became an observer at the Christiania observatory, in 1866 was elected professor of meteor- ology at Christiania University, and in 1866 was appointed. director of the Norwegian Meteorological Institute, which he was largely instrumental in founding. He retained this post until 1913. Mohn's meteorological researches were of the highest: importance. His Etudes sur les mouvements de l'atmosphere, written in collaboration with the mathematician Goldberg (1876-8), is a work of great value for the study of the dynamics of the atmosphere, and the authors continued their researches on the subject in various papers contributed to the Zeitschrift der Oest. Meteor. Gesell. (1877-8). Mohn did much work on the subject of storms, publishing storm maps of the Atlantic (1870-1;1, and he also carried out researches (1876-8) on the meteorology and oceanography of the northern Atlantic. He worked ou t and published the meteorological observations of various polar expeditions, including those of Nansen in the " Fram " (1893-6), the second " Fram " expedition (1898-1902), and Amundsen's south polar journey (1910-2), some of his papers appearing as supplements to Petermann's Mitteilungen. He also published many articles on the climate of Norway and conducted investigations into the use of the hypsometer, which are of great importance for the study of the physics of the earth. Besides the works mentioned above, he produced Grundziige der Meteorologic, which has gone through numerous enlarged editions since its first appearance in 1872 as a small text-book. Mohn was a member of many foreign scientific societies, and was senior hon. member of the Royal Meteorological Society of London, having been elected in 1874. He died at Christiania Sept. 12 1916."
This comes from 1911 Britannica, so it's weird we don't have an article on this gentleman. So this is the guy the island is named after. Too bad the article doesn't say who named the island after him. It's gotta be the Russians :). KNewman17:35, 8 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good find! It was surely the Norwegian Nansen who named the islands. Here's an article by Nansen using the spelling "Mohn's Islands" in the Geographical Journal (1897): [21], see second page. --Reuben17:39, 9 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The article by Nansen was visible a few days ago... I may have been on a university network with special access. I'm not sure. I can't see it now, from home. As for the mention of Firnley, that chapter does mention the islands, but it doesn't seem to say too much about them in particular. They just happen to be sailing past them at one point. --Reuben20:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Echinku and stuff
Hi there, Mohonu! You were right about the Echinku being one of the names of the Velikaya River. It was mentioned in some Soviet document describing the rivers of Yakutia (got it online), so I guess we could put it back. As for the Kara Sea islands you write about, I want to ask you something. Could you please drop me a line every time you're about to submit an article about any of them? I see you name these articles as they sound in Russian in genetive case (like Voronina Islands or Komsomolskoy Pravdy Islands, when in English it really should be Voronin Islands and Komsomolskaya Pravda Islands). This way we won't have to create redirects, correct your maps and stuff. Thanks and happy editing! KNewman21:00, 31 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi there, Mohonu! Sorry for the delay, I was away for a few days. Here's the translation that you requested: 1) Islands close to the Middendorf Bay = Острова вблизи залива Миддендорфа and 2) Islands in the Bay of the Pyasina = Острова в Пясинском заливе. KNewman18:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The area in the article comes from the Russian Wikipedia article, but it should be 8 sq km. The current 82 sq km is a typo on my part. Unfortunately, I haven't had a chance to look for what happened to the icebreakers... Keep up the excellent work! --Reuben12:42, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think you meant that note for User:KNewman, not me. Anyway, there's not likely to be any controversy, so just go ahead and do it: turn the article you want to merge into a redirect to the article you want to keep. Instructions are here: WP:REDIR. The general merge instructions are here: WP:MERGE. They note that making a merge is like any other edit, so you should discuss to resolve disagreements, but there's no general requirement to always go through a formal process beforehand. In this case, I am sure nobody will object; and if they do, they will probably undo it. You can start a discussion then if needed. --Reuben18:25, 12 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Mohonu! I redirected Sibiryakov Is. and Zhokhov Is., but I can't really agree with the names of the rest of the articles, for they look wrong if you ask a Russian. It should be IzvestiyTSIK Islands, because "iy" is exactly how the Russian letter "й" is pronounced in English. TSIK is short for TSentralniy Ispolnitelniy Komitet and should be in capital letters, as it is in Russian (ЦИК). Same goes for Oleniy Island (not Oleni Island). Unless this is all spelled this way in most of the English sources, which I leave to you. As for Baron Toll and Eduard Toll, which one should be the one and only? My guess is Eduard Toll, please advise, because I haven't touched it either. KNewman19:08, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I moved it to Izvestiy TSIK Islands, for I think this was what you had in mind. With Oleniy Island the situation is tricky. Google Fight says that Oleniy beats Oleni, but, in turn, Oleny beats Oleniy, so I am confused now which one is ultimately the right one. KNewman19:19, 14 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The reference to the Kamchatka Peninsula must be mistaken, that's quite a long way off and in the wrong direction... should it be a different peninsula? I'm always interested to read your articles! --Reuben09:27, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there, Mohonu! I've read the Byrranga article and found some mistakes (at least, I believe they could be). I've consulted the Great Soviet Encyclopedia and it says that 1) these mountains run for about 1100 km (and not 600 km); 2) the highest peak is 1146 m (to be exact); 3) as for bitter winters up there, the average temperature in January is ranging from -30C to -33C, which is peanuts (trivia: I was in Moscow during the winter of 2006, when it was -34C for a couple of days and I saw a guy eating an ice cream at the bus station :)). That is, of course, if one is to trust the Great Soviet Encyclopedia in terms of geography. What do you think? KNewman20:12, 15 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Hey... Guys...! I'm Glacious from Dhivehi Wikipedia. I was Just browsing the English Wikipedia in search for some Maldivian Wikipedians. Anyways, what i would like to ask you guys is to help contributing our dhivehi wikipedia. Help us bring the Dhivehi wikipedia to its next level. Thanks and Hope to see some of you guys in Dhivehi Wikipedia. Cheers!!
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Re: Corrections in map of Addu Atoll
Oblivious, "Hikihera" for Hikahera is not the only error in the Addu Atoll map. The island mentioned as "Kudavaahera" is actually Us Hera. I have made a corrected version of the map, but there is no option to upload it. How can I do it?Mohonu (talk) 05:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The map has been moved to commons since my original upload here to en.wiki. You will need to go to its commons page and then upload image to commons, with the same filename. This would keep a historic record of the original file, should anyone need to refer it. (To upload, you will need to create an account at commons). If you still need more instructions, send me an email. Thanks --Oblivious (talk) 18:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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It would have been helpful to have put the source there to begin with. The way it was presented was highly POV and was written to make it look like the changes were final. Zazaban (talk) 04:32, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
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Actually the articles on the atolls have very little reference in English. It becomes hard to find references for the articles. I generally dislike addition of any material without proper citation. Not only me, it has been discussed previous times also by many people and by wikipedia administration. Even
Jimmy Wales say that instead of using fact tags, remove unsourced material.
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In general, I find the "fact" tagging to be overdone in Wikipedia. A better option is to nuke the unsourced material. Sometimes "fact" is warranted, I don't mean that it is always a bad idea. But it is overdone.I very often see completely preposterous claims tagged with "fact", usually because an editor is being excessively cautious. Be bold.
However it is hard to find more references on the atolls. I think a google book search may be helpful. Or if you can find name of books, you can mention it in the articles. Otolemur crassicaudatus (talk) 07:55, 5 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary. Thank you. Most, if not all, of your recent edits lack summaries. See WP:ES for more information. Argos'Dad 20:45, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
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