User talk:Svetovid

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Slovak Paradise National Park

Nice work. Tankred 03:55, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

On May 30, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Slovak Paradise National Park, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Thanks for that Svetovid. This article was kindly nominated by Bbik. In the future feel free to self-nom like the majority of our entries. It certainly is ok, and we definitely could do with Slovakian stuff on DYK more often. I actually went to Bratislava for a day....back in ol 2001. See you around, Blnguyen (cranky admin anniversary) 02:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Tatra chamois

Hi. In this edit, which I have reverted, you place an image (Image:Tanap.gif) in the image gallery. This image is not freely licensed. It is included in Wikipedia under the fair use policy. Under that policy, you can only include fair use images on pages where the image directly relates to the subject of the article. Thus the logo is suitable for illustrating Tatra National Park, Slovakia, but it is expressly not suitable for illustrating Tatra chamois. Please do not keep readding it. Thanks, Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 19:26, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

That's your individual explanation of that policy, which I disagree with.
The Tatra Chamois is an important symbol for the Tatras and the image and its caption help the reader understand this perfectly.--Svetovid (talk) 20:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

The fair use policy is as it is for two main reasons: 1) it is legally safer; 2) it makes Wikipedia more free and thus easier to fork or whatever, which is important. I do comprehend your frustrations, however. Best wishes, Sam Korn ^(smoddy) 21:06, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I already knew that. I am not frustrated since your explanation in this particular case is IMO wrong.--Svetovid (talk) 21:14, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:THEY from Games Convention 2007.jpg)

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added back--Svetovid (talk) 18:37, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Kosice

Ahoj Svetoid,

Why did you erase the Ulaszlo I. name in the Kosice article? He was a Polish'king as Wladislaus III. but He was a Hungarian's king as Ulászló I. He had 2 thrones : Poland and Hungary.

All the best.Nmate

I think you answered your own question. He was Polish so his original name applies.--Svetovid (talk) 20:39, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Wladislaw III. Ladislau I.?

Hi Svetoid! I dont know why is It important You this Polish-Hungarian king's Polish name? in Kosice and in history of Bratislava articles that would be better if He is there as Ladislau I. because Kosice and Bratislava were part of the Hungarian kingdom.His offical Hungarian name was Ulászló or Ladislau and as first on the Hungarian throne not third (He was third Wladislaw or Ladislau on the Polish throne). Although it is true that his nationality was Polish but if You want to use his name so historical in context It is wrong. Because He was a Hungarian king there (Kosice Bratislava).All the best.Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmate (talk • contribs) 21:30, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

See my previous answer.--Svetovid (talk) 22:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

Dear Svetoid! I can not understand your answer but It is a little thing so I am not going to argue more You in this case. Nmate

Mole (animal) "layout chabges"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Image_use_policy#Deleting_images "Contact (through their talk page) the user who uploaded the image, telling them of your concerns. You may be able to resolve the issue at this point."

After removing images from the article, you made no effort to contact me or get any consensus before deleting images from this page "(layout chabges[sic])" http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mole_%28animal%29&diff=187151769&oldid=186190738

I have restored the images and placed a note on the talk page. Please be considerate of other people's work in the future. Thank you.

You are confusing two totally different things. I just improved the page layout by removing some of the low-quality pictures and moving ext. links.
I didn't delete any images. I can't anyway. I am not an admin.--Svetovid (talk) 22:15, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Svetovid, you are right that my reference is incorrect, and the truth is I thought my image was the best anatomical representation on the page, and that a picture too many was better than a picture too few. You of course wanted to set a threshold of quality for the article, and used copy editing skills to smarten it up. Both positions are well intentioned, and I apologize for my indignant behavior. Knowing the sensitivity of this issue, I thought a good source of existing picture dogma would be at the cat page. It meows the issue perfectly: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Cat#Too_Many_Pictures I don't think the mole article had too many pictures. One thing is for certain: it takes considerably more effort to insert a photo into an article than it does to remove it. You have made many contributions to Wikipedia so I am interested in your opinion. Thank you. Zettix (talk) 05:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

It's not only about the number of images but also about quality. Each image should be somewhat unique, should add something new to the article and should be of high quality when possible.
And you don't have to apologize. I don't take these things personally :-).--Svetovid (talk) 13:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

irrelevant

Dear Svetoid! what does it mean irrelevant? Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmate (talk • contribs) 22:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Unimportant (use dictionary).
Only important things that happened in history of Bratislava should be in the article. Also, try to use English sources.--Svetovid (talk) 22:17, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

Look at sources in Waldorf education article

I hope you can see that the article is seeking to accurately report sources. Verifiability suggests that sourced material not be removed. Please respect this. Hgilbert (talk) 12:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Please see WP:NPOV. I gave you an example on the article's talk page to understand my position.--Svetovid (talk) 13:07, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Are you referring to your Elvis example? An evaluative statement (Elvis is the greatest) is a very different kettle of fish from a descriptive statement (Waldorf education has a particular aim). We have been very careful to eliminate citations of evaluative judgments from the description; they belong in the reception section, and to some extent arise naturally in the studies section as well.

Vis a vis NPOV: Many people feel various ways about Elvis, and it would violate the policy to claim one of their views as the correct one. In contrast, every author who has treated the subject - and their are many - agrees that Waldorf education has as a primary aim aiding children to unfold their destiny. (Whether they are successful in doing so is another question, of course, and if such a claim were to be made it would have to be backed up by a different kind of evidence.) Hgilbert (talk) 16:44, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

It's a claimed aim, period. People claim a lot of things. It doesn't mean they actually do it. Why do you want to make it sound like an universal truth instead of a claim, which it actually is?--Svetovid (talk) 18:40, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Having said this several times already, I'll try once more: it is not a claim by the Waldorf movement! I have now listed all the sources on the talk page (they were already there in the article for anyone to see); all are independent, peer-reviewed descriptions the education. Their descriptions are as objective as Wikipedia gets: verifiable sources of the highest quality. By your standard, anything stated anywhere is a claim, and every line of every article should simply say that someone somewhere claims something. BUT IN ANY CASE IT IS NOT THE WALDORF MOVEMENT CLAIMING THIS, BUT OTHER AUTHORS. Look at the citations.Hgilbert (talk) 12:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Why do you want to make it sound like an universal truth instead of a claim, which it actually is?
There are critics of the education, which apparently shows that the claim is not universal, nor objective.--Svetovid (talk) 12:40, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

A whole range of verifiable sources say it; no verifiable sources have been cited that in any way dispute it. That's truth sub specie Wikipedia. Nevertheless, I have tried to provide wording that makes it clear that this particular "truth" is drawn from (the cited) studies of the education. This still seems superfluous; is this not what citations are meant to indicate (that they are the source that supports a given claim)? Hgilbert (talk) 13:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

I hope you are not trying to suggest that the claim is a kind of a scientific fact.--Svetovid (talk) 14:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

No, just verifiable: WP:Verify states that "Verifiable" in this context means that readers should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source. Hgilbert (talk) 16:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

ecotourdirectory.com Ecotourism Resource Centre

Hello, Noticed that you removed the link we added to Wikipedia on the 'ecotourism' page.

I was just wondering why you felt that this was not a valid resource?

Kind Regards Karen —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.32.97.98 (talk) 15:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

See Wikipedia:External links.--Svetovid (talk) 15:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Athiest Delusion Link

You removed an external link to atheistdelusion.net from the wikipedia article on Richard Dawkins. I believe this link to be relevant as it is a site set up in response to the works and literature of Professor Dawkins. Snalwimba and myself have already had a discussion on this matter and it was agreed that the link was relevant. I will thus revert back to the previous edit if I hear no compelling arguements to the contrary by 18:30 GMT. 81.110.35.69 (talk) 17:56, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Even if it is relevant, it doesn't seem notable.--Svetovid (talk) 21:17, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Firstly, none of the other external links are to opponents of Dawkins, and so for the sake of objectivity and uniformity if nothing this link should be included. Secondly, atheistdelusion.net has links to many interesting and relevant articles, including one on Alister McGrath's "The Dawkins Delusion" (probably the best publicised response to Dawkins' God Delusion) and audio links to debates/discussions between Dawkins and various prominent and notable theologians including John Lennox, Alister McGrath and David Quinn. I hope this answers your reservations about the inclusion of the link. Pete g1 (talk) 22:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Your personal opinion on the subject doesn't give it credibility, nor notability.--Svetovid (talk) 22:10, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe I was objective in my comment, other than my perhaps unnecessary use of the adjective 'interesting'. Notability, however, is inherently, intrinsically and inextricably linked to opinion, though opinions formed from unbiased observation rather than personal taste. Opinions aside however, I stand by my point that atheistdelusion.net provides a portal whereby users of Wikipedia reading the Richard Dawkins article can find articles and talks detailing what Professor Dawkins' opponents have to say, as well as some of his own debates. Given the details above, and that this is the first such external link, I maintain that the link is a useful addition to the Dawkins article, filling in a previously empty hole in this small sub-section (i.e. External Links) Pete g1 (talk) 01:39, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Stúr, Bernolák

Ahoj Svetoid!

I did not intend this comment for you! I intend it for MarkBA because he removed what i wrote to the Nitra article yesterday.

Nmate —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nmate (talk • contribs) 12:28, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

You'd better watch out

Hi Svetovid

I just wanted to tell that you'd better watch out for the above user's actions. MarkBA ^{what's up?/my mess} 11:09, 24 March 2008 (UTC)