Talk:Wisdom Tree

Unliscenced Christianity

Wisdom Tree is a manufacturer and distributor of unlicensed Christianity-themed video games, primarily for the Nintendo Entertainment System. ^(rev)

Unlicenced Christianity! Dear God, is that legal? --zippedmartin 20:48, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

Absolutely; because it's "Freedom of Speech" and "Freedom of Expression". Many preachers today preach in their own churches unlicensed by the government--and there's nothing wrong with that because it's "Freedom of Speech" and "Freedom of Expression" as well.

--JJ

I think, perhaps, that zippedmartin was merely commenting on the humor of the apparent modification of "Christianity" by the adjective "unlicensed" in the article's intro. Incidentally, it's separation of church and state, i.e., freedom of religion, not necessarily freedom of speech. - Jersyko·talk 20:30, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

Plagiarism?

Is it me, or is some of the text in this article very similiar to the planet nintendo link at the bottom? Could it be someone has forgotten that it is still plagiarism even if you source it.--THollan 15:18, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Could you point to an example? I will have to disagree, however, that "it is still plagiarism even if you source it," as the definition of plagiarism contemplates that if the information is sourced, it is not plagiarism. Whether this article is properly sourced is another matter entirely, though. - Jersyko·talk 16:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Even if you source it, it can still be plagiarism. If you qoute something and do not put it in quotation marks and give proper attribution, it is plagiarism, since you are presenting the words as your own, regardless of whether or not your provide a source. Qouting without attribution is the same as not providing sources. Anytime something is not in qoutes, one can assume that it is your own words.--THollan 19:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Huh?

"Super Noah's Ark 3d holds the distinction of being the only Super Nintendo game to use an alternately made cartridge."

What does this even mean? And incidently, is there evidence backing up this statement? --Matthew0028 09:10, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

It means that the Super Noah's Ark 3D cart for SNES is the only game for the SNES that doesn't use the standard carts that Nintendo made. The only other thing to use a non-standard cart is the gamegenie, which we can all agree is not a game. I have seen the cart and can vouch for it being 'different', It ressembles the game genie cart actually cause you have to plug another game into it to get it to work, but I cannot vouch for it being the only one. Although it's perfectly believable as Nintendo has a very strong hold on the game industry. Remove it if you like, it's not an important fact. --Thaddius 14:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Dubious

Does anyone find it odd that this 'christian-themed' company would take advantage of such a dubious law? Despite the 'freedom of speech' and other American arguments listed above, it's still an undehanded tactic for a company with religious connotations. --Thaddius 14:47, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Well you know how them christians are: "the end justifies the means". Actually I just kidding.--Kenn Caesius 15:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

You're forgetting that the most important word in "christian-themed company" is not "christian", it's "company". Speaking of which, I read awhile back that the founders of Wisdom Tree, Color Dreams, et al were actually looking into creating porn-themed games at one point. I haven't been able to find that reference again, though . . .· j·e·r·s·y·k·o talk · 15:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

That would be an interesting addition. @Kenn Caesius: I believe you're thinking of utilitarianism, not Christianity. :P --Thaddius 15:18, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Color Dreams did license porn games from Hong Kong, they made 'sanitized' versions of them. The 'creating porn-themed games' comment you saw is probably a misunderstanding. Some reliable sources to add this information to the article would be helpful. But, there seems to be none beyond original research of playing bother versions of the games themselves. I just edited an opinion toned comment in the article regarding this.

Underhanded? No more so than the Game Genie. All Color Dreams did was manufacture their own cartridges, meaning that Nintendo received no money from the game sales. The Game Genie does the same thing. I'd say it's more "underhanded" to blackmail retailers to remove the products of one's competitor, but that's just me... EllipsesBent 03:22, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Galoob, the company behind the Game Genie, is not a self proclaimed Christian company. Wisdom Tree is. That's my point. Also, most of these games were hacked versions of retail games. Subverting licencing and copyright infringement is not something you'd expect from a company that aligns themselves with a religion known for its moral superiority. --Thaddius 18:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, while we're on the topic, Nintendo had a strict licencing policy as they hoped it would help avoid another crash (unlicensed games arguably caused the '83 crash). Nintendo did blackmail retailers into not letting them sell Color Dreams' games, but they were unlicensed carts and it was within their right to do what they could to ban their sale. I'm not saying what Ninty did was right either, but again, Ninty doesn't align themselves with a religion. --Thaddius 18:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)