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The elephant and the mouse (rat)

That's not right. The elephant cannot capture the rat. See the following link (in Chinese though) :

http://www.3wschool.cn/game/game_dsq.asp

Sorry I've reverted my edit. Looks like it's a different game. Still, that wasn't the way I used to play it (during childhood). It feels kind of strange that the elephant can capture anything - that makes it almost omnipotent. Another interesting link is as follows (also in Chinese):

http://www.t3d9.com/help/DouShouQi.htm

Some unsettled problems

Mingxuan 09:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)someone please help me... if player A's own animal enter player A's own trap can the opponent "eat" the piece if opponent chess piece is stronger?[reply]

Possibly. There is debate on whether the player's trap squares act as a "safe" zone (protecting against attack) or not. - Parsa 19:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stratego and Jungle

DeweyQ, you're right that the Stratego reference needs a citation. The problem lies with the fact that Dou Shou Qi has very little written about it in English. I have a feeling that not even much is written in Chinese. Even the Chinese Wikipedia article on Jungle is pretty short. The Wiki article on Stratego mentions the relation between the games. However, there are no references given. The games are obviously similar, but finding viable references is difficult. - Parsa 09:04, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Fellow gamers: Let me assure you that JUNGLE CHESS is not "Ancient Asian" in any way. Even Stratego is older. This is the problem of what I would call "bad scholarship" when it comes to putting things on Wiki. The History of Stratego has a closer relationship with "L'Attaque" then this game. Chinese Jungle Chess was not even among the games recorded by the great Stewart Culpin who was a Professor at the University of Pennsylvania who extensively traveled the east and created an encyclopedia of Oriental games from China, Japan, Korea, etc.. The Professors research was originally published in 1895. Jungle Chess is not included because it was a 20th century invention. Doesn't anyone even consult an Asian Cultural center regarding this material? -

Stewart Culpin's extensive collection of ALL asian games is still in the collection of the University of Pennsylvania museum. I suggest that before anyone makes such assumptions based on similarity, check which came first. Not every game in China is "Ancient". Also, many Asians don't know their own gaming history because these things are more of an oral history than recorded, and only Asian scholars who are authorities should be consulted regarding History. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.238.226.71 (talk) 20:11, 26 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Piece hierarchy

I moved the Wolf above the Dog, since it's a stronger piece in the game (you can also tell from the starting positions, where Dog is opposite Cat, while Wolf is opposite Leopard).Archiesteel (talk) 17:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Authority of rules given in article?

At present this article appears misleading. This game appears to be played with a wide variety of rules. See http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/213118 for one example of a variation. There appears to be no "central authority" for this game. If there is one please list it and show why it is recognised as the world authority on this game.

Otherwise please include an acknowledgement of the "fuzziness" of this games rules in this article. 124.169.208.45 (talk) 13:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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 I moved the Wolf above the Dog, since it's a stronger piece in the game (you can also tell from the starting positions, where Dog is opposite Cat, while Wolf is opposite Leopard).[[User:Archiesteel|Archiesteel]] ([[User talk:Archiesteel|talk]]) 17:56, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
+== Authority of rules given in article? ==
+At present this article appears misleading. This game appears to be played with a wide variety of rules. See http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/213118 for one example of a variation. There appears to be no "central authority" for this game. If there is one please list it and show why it is recognised as the world authority on this game.
+Otherwise please include an acknowledgement of the "fuzziness" of this games rules in this article. [[Special:Contributions/124.169.208.45|124.169.208.45]] ([[User talk:124.169.208.45|talk]]) 13:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)