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Is there anybody who knows the story and could give a (fair and balanced) summary? (Hopefully without starting a war) [[User:Ratfox|Ratfox]] ([[User talk:Ratfox|talk]]) 19:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC) |
Is there anybody who knows the story and could give a (fair and balanced) summary? (Hopefully without starting a war) [[User:Ratfox|Ratfox]] ([[User talk:Ratfox|talk]]) 19:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC) |
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:There would need to be rather outstandingly reliable sourcing for such a section, because this is a biography of a living person, other living persons would be named as part of reporting the issue, and because it involves a controversy. To the best of my knowledge, there is very little published in reliable, third party sources about this; this also speaks to the question of notability. While the episode appears to have created notable tensions within Wikipedia, it is not clear whether those tensions were considered relevant, or even noted by independent observers. [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker|talk]]) 19:42, 2 October 2008 (UTC) |
:There would need to be rather outstandingly reliable sourcing for such a section, because this is a biography of a living person, other living persons would be named as part of reporting the issue, and because it involves a controversy. To the best of my knowledge, there is very little published in reliable, third party sources about this; this also speaks to the question of notability. While the episode appears to have created notable tensions within Wikipedia, it is not clear whether those tensions were considered relevant, or even noted by independent observers. [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker|talk]]) 19:42, 2 October 2008 (UTC) |
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: Since you ask.... I might as well correct some small factual issues. I hope that correcting small mistakes and providing links to articles does not count as "advocacy". |
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On the subject of vouchers, here is [http://www.nysun.com/arts/evening-with-milton-friedman/16031/ a New York Sun article] from 2005. Here is [http://www.hoover.org/publications/ednext/16110167.html a Hoover story] from spring 2008. Here is a [http://www.reuters.com/article/pressRelease/idUS128466+21-Jul-2008+PRN20080721 Reuters story] from summer 2008. |
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: I might as well correct some small factual issues. I don't think this is advocacy, just accuracy: " In September the same year he took over as CEO, and the following month the company was renamed Overstock.com" Actually, it might be slightly more accurate to say also that the Overstock.com website was launched in October. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:PatrickByrne|PatrickByrne]] ([[User talk:PatrickByrne|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/PatrickByrne|contribs]]) 00:06, 19 October 2008 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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" In September the same year he took over as CEO, and the following month the company was renamed Overstock.com" Actually, it might increase the accuracy slightly to say, be slightly more accurate to say, "the following month the company was renamed Overstock.com and the Overstock.com website was launched." [[User:PatrickByrne|PatrickByrne]] ([[User talk:PatrickByrne|talk]]) 00:12, 19 October 2008 (UTC) |
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No mention of the Wikipedia story?
As far as I understand, Patrick M. Byrne has had some kind of disagreement with some people over the Wikipedia article on naked short selling. I don't want to get into that debate, but Byrne is more famous to me for this than for, say, his education lobbying. I believe this might be worth a mention on his page.
Is there anybody who knows the story and could give a (fair and balanced) summary? (Hopefully without starting a war) Ratfox (talk) 19:31, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- There would need to be rather outstandingly reliable sourcing for such a section, because this is a biography of a living person, other living persons would be named as part of reporting the issue, and because it involves a controversy. To the best of my knowledge, there is very little published in reliable, third party sources about this; this also speaks to the question of notability. While the episode appears to have created notable tensions within Wikipedia, it is not clear whether those tensions were considered relevant, or even noted by independent observers. Risker (talk) 19:42, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
- Since you ask.... I might as well correct some small factual issues. I hope that correcting small mistakes and providing links to articles does not count as "advocacy".
On the subject of vouchers, here is a New York Sun article from 2005. Here is a Hoover story from spring 2008. Here is a Reuters story from summer 2008.
" In September the same year he took over as CEO, and the following month the company was renamed Overstock.com" Actually, it might increase the accuracy slightly to say, be slightly more accurate to say, "the following month the company was renamed Overstock.com and the Overstock.com website was launched." PatrickByrne (talk) 00:12, 19 October 2008 (UTC)