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--Spencer^T♦C 19:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

My behavior

Please accept my apologies.84.134.126.203 (talk) 15:54, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

Missing the point?

I think that you're totally missing the point of systematically deleting interesting topics in the talk page relating to the South Ossetia war. I respect you, but yet ask you to do your homework before drawing rediculous conclusions. --Hapsala (talk) 21:34, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

WP:NOTFORUM is a very simple rule.--Avala (talk) 22:08, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

No, it isn't for any topic. --Hapsala (talk) 00:00, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

It is very specific "bear in mind that talk pages exist for the purpose of discussing how to improve articles; they are not mere general discussion pages about the subject of the article".--Avala (talk) 00:15, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Kosovo for S Ossetia and Abkhazia

Im not mad, drunk or making this up, but Ive been hearing rumors about a deal made in June between EU, US and Russia. In this deal the US and EU would stand back and allow Russia to annexed/ recognise S Ossetia and Abkhazia in return for Russian recognition of Kosovo. And all this opposition is just for the news cameras and the world stage. You heard anything similar? I dont believe it, however I found it interesting. Ijanderson (talk) 21:27, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Some sort of conspiracy Ijanderson (talk) 21:31, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeh Russia is funny, it is Serbia's Ally, however at the end of the day, everything Russia does is for itself. Russia will use force to stop Chechens from declaring independence ect. Also you were mentioning Of course Serbians in Montenegro, Hungarians in Slovakia, Romania and also some in Serbia will declare independence too ect. I doubt this would be of any success. As you know that Kosovo is basically an EU/US project, and they wont have support and the EU would never allow it and send "peacekeeps" to stop this. I can see something happening with Republika Srpska in the near future though. Ijanderson (talk) 22:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeh i have heard that about the EU not wanting muslims and not allowing. However the UK (one of the EU string pullers with France and Germany) is very pro Turkey. The UK for some reason really wants Turkey in the EU. Austria is the main country opposing Turkey. Yeh the majority of Kosovans are Muslim, but they are not practicing Muslims, the young people of Kosovo are more in to "sex, alcohol and drugs" not religion. Its like Albania, most people dont practice religion. Kosovans are de jure Muslims, but de facto Atheists. Its like me, i was brought up a protestant, but I haven't been to church since i was a kid. I can't be bothered with religion. Thats what Kosovo is like. Albania was the first country in the world to abolish religion in the 1970s. Kosovo isnt Islamic at all, this is one of the reasons why the Arabs states are hold back recognition. The US is using Muslim Kosovo to try and get Islamic nations to recognise Kosovo and it isnt working. Bosnians are Muslim though, Islam is their main identity. Ijanderson (talk) 22:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeh it was only yo show support. Nothing important really. Noticed how Cheney went and not Bush.Thats says something, Bush is letting Rice and Cheney do all the work. Two possible reasons for this. 1- Georgia is not a priority for Bush/ US. 2- Bush hasn't got a clue whats going on. lol Ijanderson (talk) 21:21, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

I hate McCain hes an old w**ker. I hate Obama too. Republicans and Democrats, whats the difference policy wise. Their whole campaigns are on image and bitching about each other instead of real policy. The US is a two party state. Not a real democracy. You can vote for either A or B. Ijanderson (talk) 22:04, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes I did revert it, however I have since fixed the wikifiction stuff, such as link, references and other minor fixes, which I accidentally removed along with the POV stuff. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 19:09, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

No hard feelings over that mini edit war we had earlier. I think your a cool guy. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 22:08, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I did not intend to revert everything, just one or two things, thats why I tried fixing some of the things after. I'll look on some MOFA and Govt sites then. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 22:23, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

See my new proposals Ijanderson (talk) 11:09, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Yeh I knew Juk was there. Saudi Arabia wont recognise for a few years, they recently signed a 5 Billion euro weapons deal with Russia. So all the other states around KSA wont recognise Kosovo as they are waiting for KSA to do so first. Apparently the UK and France are lobbying to Egypt to recognise, however Egypt has traditionally been friends with Russia. Ijanderson (talk) 11:57, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Juk at Arab League one day, a few days later Kosovo FM Hyseni is at OIC. Interesting. I still don't expect them to recognise. Especially when its not long before the ICJ thing Ijanderson (talk) 10:33, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Ethiopia wont recognise because of what happened with Eritrea. A few will support ICJ at least half of EU. Costa Rica is in favor of it. Czechs are funny on this, they were not to happy about recognising, but since they have opened an embassy ect so this might indicate they're there to stay. But who knows? Ijanderson (talk) 16:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Howdy, regarding your recent edits to International recognition of Abkhazia and South Ossetia, I'd like to ask you to use edit summaries. Your edits here and here among others are lacking such summaries. You can read WP:EDITSUMMARY for a guide as to why it is considered good practice to use them. —— nixeagle 19:43, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

Re. Mareklug

I have admonished Mareklug for removing your comments from the talk page and for the personal attacks. I don't think that a block is necessary for the moment, but please report any eventual further misbehavior. Thank you. Regards, Húsönd 14:02, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

don't turn the readers away

You can set the images at 250px if you like, but you have to understand that this means losing some readers. Would you prefer a default image size and the maximum possible readership, or keeping the 250px size and making some readers who use different screen resolutions and window sizes than yours not read the article at all? I think we should strive for maximum readership, not for what looks good on our monitors. Readers don't like sites that look awful on their systems. NerdyNSK (talk) 19:29, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

I am just doing per WP:MOS which might need changes but it is as it is today and using wiki software. Some images simply need resizing and there is a lengthy discussion over the matter.--Avala (talk) 19:44, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Serbian passport

Taj sken je neka rana verzija pasoša, koja praktično uopšte ne liči na pravu stvar. Slika je crno-bela, ta stranica je zapravo potpuno šarena. Još neke stvari su izmenjene, a jedna od njih jeste da piše Državljanstvo: Srpsko, a ne Državljanstvo: Srbija, što je nekako i logično. Držim pasoš ispred sebe, zato sam i tako ubeđen :) Pozdrav! Meelosh (talk) 16:53, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Samoa

I found it by looking at the article Pacific Forum. I already coloured in Samoa. Ijanderson (talk) 22:24, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Macedonia

Hi. Somebody brought this report to the article. It's basically the same kind of speculation we've been seeing in the 7 sections about Macedonia on the talk page, isn't it? By the way, if you ever think there is anything useful to add about Macedonia, feel free to add it to user:BalkanFever/Boxhead before having to deal with editprotected. Cheers, BalkanFever 10:04, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Montenegro and ICJ

I think its best for us to wait till 3 Oct for Montenegro, no harm in waiting, see what happens then. Im surprised that the UK has voted n favour of ICJ view, since the UK is probably Kosovo's biggest supporter. For example, back in early 2007, (when everyone knew Kosovo was planning to declare independence in about a years time) it was Tony Blair who told George Bush to recognise Kosovo. Also the UK is a one of the major financial supporters of Kosovo and the UK lobbies for Kosovo loads too, eg recently Malta and Belize. Apparently half EU have voted in favour of ICJ view on Kosovo. Ijanderson (talk) 23:37, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Apparently Russian citizens are becoming more pro Kosovo [1] Ijanderson (talk) 15:27, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

I will respond properly tomorrow morning, I've had too much too drink tonight haha. Talk tomorrow mate lol. Cya later. Regards. Ijanderson (talk) 00:42, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Yesterday i read something saying that the UK was the biggest opposer of it. Ive seen on blogs and comments on news articles from Albanian Kosovans saying "thank you UK". I believe that India will oppose Kosovo due to India's own problems, such as Kashmir dispute, Christian, Muslim, Sikh and other separatists. Plus India wants to be seen as a "defender of international law" on the world stage, as it wants to be major world player along with US, China, Russia, EU ect. RegardsIjanderson (talk) 10:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Re. lone dissenter, bogus content, badly out of touch with reality...

Hello Avala. I understand your concerns and I agree that you are not what could be called a "lone dissenter". However, I would prefer that these complains be addressed first at the talk page of the relevant article. Consider requesting feedback on Mareklug's activities there first. If more users manifest your worries, then further investigation on Mareklug will be pertinent. Until then, I can only regard this as content dispute, and I find no administrative intervention necessary. Unless of course, if you two start edit warring again, but I am not expecting you to. Regards, Húsönd 15:10, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Could you brief me on the wording Mareklug refers as "alleged, not appearing in the Greek MFA website"? Húsönd 15:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, the statement is on the source (which happens to be an extremely valid one), and should naturally be considered. Mareklug should not be referring to it as "alleged". I suggest that you insert it. I will definitely have a look at Mareklug's rationale if he reverts it. Please report to me if he does. Regards, Húsönd 15:39, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

I think that by showing that you were doing the right thing you neutralize any unfair accusations against you. Anyway please report any further instances of Mareklug's that you believe are making you the focus of the discussions, rather than making it the content of the article. I shall then analyze them and talk with him if I understand he's being unfair and/or spreading animosity against you. Regards, Húsönd 16:15, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Hmm, I have this article watchlisted and although I've noticed some disruption by IPs today, I don't think it needs semi-protection just yet. But I'll do it if the disruption increases and we have no other choice. I'm monitoring it. Regards, Húsönd 20:48, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but now Ip 84 has a account so its ineffective.--Jakezing (talk) 05:10, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Mont and MKD

Focus News do an english version, I cant see that story on the English version Ijanderson (talk) 18:00, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the update, but just so you know it's not my section, so if you're confident with your Macedonian skills fell free to add something. If you're reluctant to edit for other reasons, that's the point of the sandbox I made, a test section where sources can be added. Cheers, BalkanFever 00:19, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Coats of arms of the Yugoslav Socialist Republics

Your comment is not constructive (it was reverted because it featured a weird grey-red shahovnica which could be even considered an image vandalism) because the Croatian CoA have always had a version of red and silver (which is represented by grey). The version of that image that I support has been taken from a reliable source and this version was the official version.

The title of the article is POV since Macedonia and Serbia still officialy use the CoA from the socialist era.

Imbris (talk) 21:30, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about? Serbia is not using that coat of arms anymore and Macedonia uses the equal blazon but it's not called socialist anymore. How are we supposed to believe you that Croatian coat of arms had grey instead of white then? You haven't provided a single source to back up your claim anyway.--Avala (talk) 21:35, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

• Janko Ehrlich Zdvořák confirms that the Constitution of the SR Croatia determined the usage of both white and silver because that is the historical Croatian arms. This is besides the point, both grey and white are acceptable. The main reason for the revert is the color of the iron anvil (nakovanj) which is most certainly not blue but grey. Using grey in the chequy fields of the CoA is not a mistake, but using an oversized anvil in blue and oversized five-pointed red star with a detached bordering is a big mistake.

• a source from WIPO

And most importantly the WIPO holds the original and if someone would want to make a sVG file of the CoA of the SR Croatia that original should be used as the most appropriate form, colours may be determined somewhat differently.

For the matter of officiality of the CoA of Serbia see commons:Image talk:Flag of Serbia.svg#Official status of the Symbols of Serbia.

In the Republic of Serbia there is no law that defined the CoA but a meere recommendation and the Law on the use of the Coat of arms of the Socialist Republic of Serbia (original: Zakon o upotrebi grba Socijalisticke Republike Srbije (“SG SRS”, br. 6/1985.) is still in legal power (official) and a part of the legal system of Serbia.

Imbris (talk) 22:25, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Article 12 of the Constitutional Law for Implementation of the Constitution of the Republic of Serbia ("Official Gazette of the Republic of Serbia", No. 98/06.) from 2006 clearly lists that all laws that were valid before the Constitution of 2006 still are valid. -- Imbris (talk) 01:25, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

But there is no latter law or regulation. In fact Serbia has de jure still the Coat of arms of the SR Serbia as its only legal CoA. The recommended one is just recommended and that recommendation did not declare the previous Law on the use of the Coat of arms of the Socialist Republic of Serbia as not valid. The Constitution did only name the symbols but not determined the symbols at all. The Constitutional Law for Implementation of the Constitution of the Republic of Serbia determined that all laws must be in conformity with the new Constitution of Serbia but that very same Constitutional Law prolonged the validity of all laws that were part of the legal system of Serbia before the Constitution as still valid. -- Imbris (talk) 22:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

As for the Coat of arms of SR Croatia the revert that you made is based on an invalid source because the anvil was never blue, look around, FotW uses grey and also the Encyclopaedia Yugoslavica. The master orriginal is stored at WIPO and you know it very well.

The reverts that I made in the article concerning this topic are valid as well as yours but those reverts are based on a verifiable source such as WIPO and not just some Serbian newspaper issued encyclopaedia like that Prosvjeta stuff (which by the way you did not cite at all).

I will hold my reaction in further reverting the article until you answer but I very much hope that you would revert back what you did at commons regarding the CoA of SR Croatia.

Imbris (talk) 22:57, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Your attempts to hide facts are futile. You are very well aware of the facts that recommendation is not a subconstitutional act but that only a constitutional law might be considered "subconstitutional". Also there is a rule of "subordination" in every country that has a Civil Law System. The most highest act is a Constitution (it is not a meere law since all laws must correspond to the Constitution). Then we have Constitutional Laws that are higher than a law and are considered "equall" to the Constitituon itself (but not a part of the Constitution). Then we have laws that must coresspond to the statutes (decrees, norms) of the Constitution. And the lowest of acts that are used to clarify, inforce, implement laws. The recommendation is neither of those acts.

See Ilustrovana Politika Broj 2501 - 23. 12. 2006. Srbija bez državnih simbola : Bože, himne, grba i zastave. Interview of prof. Milivoje Pavlović (himnologist) and Dragomir Acović (heraldist).

If you would be so kind to revet SR Croatia coa at commons. And if you want I would be more than happy to explain why discussions about content are to be lead at wikipedia and not at commons. Commons only stores media and is not used to determine what content is legitimate and what isn't.

Imbris (talk) 23:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Not true. Acovic did not say anything about the symbols of SR Serbia being not official in Serbia today. Do you realize that Serbia today is a successor of the SR Serbia, all the laws of SR Serbia are still valid (until superseeded). Also Acovic stated that a proposal of the Law on symbols did not receive the majority of votes in the Cabinet (the Government of Serbia), so a Law is needed!

This should be inserted in the Coat of arms of Serbia article.

Imbris (talk) 17:25, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Did you read the Constitution of Serbia (1990-2006) no socialist republic was mentioned there. So that argument is not correct. Your interpretation of Acović is very nice but you cannot interpret his interview's poetic license. Law is needed, you stated it is not needed. And for the matter of fact every constitutional law prolonged validity of older laws and bylaws. A recommendation is the lowest possible act there can exist (in any legal system) it is not a bylaw. I cannot belive that you are still trying to justify something that cannot be defended. Laws can be marked not valid only by another law, constitutional law or the Constitution itself. This has not been the case here. The Law is still valid. -- Imbris (talk) 17:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

The symbols of the Republic of Serbia (1990-2006) are still valid because no law superseeded them, even the infamous recommendation specified nothing about the CoA of the Republic of Serbia as used by the Constitution of the Republic of Serbia in 1990. -- Imbris (talk) 19:04, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Mala and Switzerland

The "news" about Mala's record was dismissed today by Didje Chasott, of the Swiss Foreign Ministry [2] The only issue they're discussing is Mala's dual citizenship (Swiss, Kosovan) and how that might be a problem when granting him immunity. --alchaemia (talk) 23:54, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

You keep changing the Mala article and claiming that he was 'rejected by Swiss authorities' while providing no credible source. Here's one that confirms the discussions that are on-going but clearly denies there's any rejection or criminal record. [3]

September 25, 2008 - 7:55 PM

Officials concerned over proposed Kosovo envoy Switzerland has expressed reservations over Kosovo's proposed ambassador to Bern, a foreign ministry spokesman confirmed on Thursday.

The Kosovo government had suggested the ambassadorship of Naim Mala on August 29 but had been told by Swiss officials Mala was not their "preferred candidate", authorities in Priština said.

On late Thursday afternoon the Swiss foreign ministry said there were concerns over Mala's dual Swiss-Kosovo nationality.

"We have stated that the dual nationality of Naim Mala could lead to difficulties with diplomatic immunity," Jean-Phillipe Jutzi said. But he added that Switzerland was still open to the accreditation of Mala, if this was what Kosovo wanted.

Please stop claiming that he was officially rejected, and revise that uncredible source. Your source claims that charge d'affairs is Albana Beqiri, not Naim Mala. She's the spokesperson on the MFA of Kosovo. Hardly a good source I would say. --alchaemia (talk) 18:35, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Template:Government of Croatia

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If the template is intended to be substituted, please feel free to remove the speedy deletion tag and please consider putting a note on the template's page indicating that it is substituted so as to avoid any future mistakes (<noinclude>{{transclusionless}}</noinclude>).

Thanks. --Green Giant (talk) 23:30, 28 September 2008 (UTC) Green Giant (talk) 23:30, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Crown on the CoA of Serbia

"Dakle, uzeta je ”neimenovana" heraldička kraljevska kruna bez srpskog istorijskog korena iako je on postojao."

translation:

"Therefore, as selected was "the unknown" heraldic royal crown without the Serbian Historic root even if that existed."

Source: Ljubomir Stevović wrote Srpski grb i himna u XX veku? in: Drama - časopis Udruženja dramskih pisaca Srbije, No. broj 1 / jesen (fall) - 2002., published by: Udruženje dramskih pisaca Srbije, Kulturno prosvetna zajednica Beograda & Pozorište "Moderna garaža" Beograd.

Conclusion:

So Obrenovitch did not have a crown! They had a CoA with an open heraldic crown of unknown origin.

Imbris (talk) 17:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

What conspiracy theory do you speak of? -- Imbris (talk) 17:46, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Where is your source for claims that the text is conspiracy. That crown is not the crown of Obrenović because never was any Obrenović crowned. The only king since Nemanjić dinasty that was crowned is Petar I. -- Imbris (talk) 18:14, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Who said anything against Obrenović being kings. Why do you refer to something I have not said nor written. That crown on the Serbian CoA (not the CoA of the Republic of Serbia yet) is not the crown of Obrenović. -- Imbris (talk) 18:40, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Everything is written in the quoted source:

Heraldički običaji u Srba, u primeni i književnosti, (Godišnjica Čupića IV, str. 1-140, 1884; preštampano u: Istorija i tradicija, SKZ Beograd, 1982., str. 293-434)

"Po heraldičkom ukusu našeg vremena, a iz osnova koje se dokazuju autentičnim spomenicima, izrađeni su svi sastavni delovi novoga grba. Iz stare kraljevske krune, koja je sačuvana na tolikim novcima, izvedena je svedena kruna po formi sadašnjih kraljevskih kruna. Po starim autentičnim oblicima dvoglavoga orla uzet je na novi grb dvoglavi orao u poletu, i spram našeg vremena uzeto je naturalistič ko heraldičko crtanje..."

Zakon o grbu Kraljevine Srbije je bio usvojen 20. juna 1882. i prešlo se na izradu grba (Zbornik zakona i uredaba, XXXVII, 132 1882). Stojan Novaković i bečki poslanik Filip Hristić su taj posao, ne zna se na čiju preporuku, poverili dvadesettrogodišnjem Ernstu Kralu, studentu Umetničke zanatske škole u Beču, koji je kasnije postao slavni k. k. dvorski slikar grbova. Od Krala su naručena “dva originala, jedan crnim, šrafiran po heraldičkim pravilima u dve trećine formata priložene skice, i jedan u potpunim bojama na pergamentu” i da posle napravi 1000 crnobelih kopija (Arhiv Srbije; MID, Novaković Hristiću 20. jula 1882.). Tako je nastao naš čuveni Kraljevinski grb.

Imbris (talk) 21:12, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Your attempts to offend me will not work. You are the one who insist on replying certain questions that are not subject of this discussion. I have answered all of your questions. Why do you keep insisting on this tactic (asking questions instead of answering). Yes it was the CoA of the Kingdom of Serbia while the Obrenović Royal Dinasty ruled over the Kingdom, but the Crown was not the Crown of the Kingdom of Serbia (did not exist in that form) nor it was a Royal Crown of the House of Obrenović (haven't had a crown at all). This is the point and not some "conspiracy" you keep insisting on. -- Imbris (talk) 21:33, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Maintenance templates

Which page was this? Therequiembellishere (talk) 22:41, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

UN vote map

You may have flipped some countries, but Serbian media has reported that Costa Rica voted in favor, while your map show them as absent. And I don't know how to fix maps anyway :-) --Dzordzm (talk) 06:50, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

P.S.You're also showing Georgia as being in favor, but they're not on the list. --Dzordzm (talk) 06:59, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Protest from Serbia

I remember reading that Serbia would put up sanctions against Montenegro if it recognised Kosovo. Now that Montenegro has recognised Kosovo, what is Serbia going to do to show its protest of Montenegro's recognition? I know that the Montenegrin ambassador has been expelled from Belgrade, but what else? Also will Serbia do similar things to Macedonia if they recognise too? Regards Ijanderson (talk) 19:43, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Interesting. What internal problems do you think Montenegro will face from its recognition? Also what impact will Montenegro's recognition have a on the "world stage", for example how will it affect Serbia's position on Kosovo? and how will Montengro's recognition affect other countries position on Kosovo? Regards Ijanderson (talk) 20:26, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Has the Macedonian ambassador been expelled as well? Regards Ijanderson (talk) 13:02, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, will Mont and ROM have chargé d'affaires/ liaison offices representing them in Serbia now or no diplomatic relations at all? Or is it still unclear yet. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 13:27, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks mate, you've been most helpful, regards Ijanderson (talk) 18:08, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Boris Tadic

So I had this article on a long-term list for improvement, but I was surprised to see how good it looks right now. I see that it failed GA review earlier this year, but it looks like you've put a lot of work into it since then. I've never worked on getting an article to GA status, but if there's anything I can do to help, let me know please. Regards, // Chris ^{(complaints)•(contribs)} 20:51, 9 October 2008 (UTC)

Frank Huddle and consul

You said: " (31,902 bytes) (not notable enough to have his photo in intro) (undo)"

Huddle is certainly notable enough to have an entry on Wikipedia (even though I wrote it, I know he is notable) - Is there another consul with a free image that could have his picture in this article? WhisperToMe (talk) 00:13, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

ITN

On 18 October, 2008, In the news was updated with a news item that involved the article(s) United Nations Security Council election, 2008, which you created or substantially updated. If you know of another interesting news item involving a recently created or updated article, then please suggest it on the In the news candidates page.

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Krajina Towns Again

Hi there. If you remember some time ago there was an issue with the Krajina town catory. We have yet another problem and another vote as some Croats are not happy with this topic existing. Please add a vote or some input. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Towns_in_the_Former_RSK Thanks. (LAz17 (talk) 19:06, 24 October 2008 (UTC))