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This page provides a forum for editors to suggest items for inclusion in Template:In the news (ITN), a protected Main Page template, as well as the forum for discussion of candidates. This is not the page to report errors in the ITN section on the Main Page—please go to the appropriate section at WP:ERRORS.

This candidates page is integrated with the daily pages of Portal:Current events. Under each daily section header below is the transcluded Portal:Current events items for that day (with a light green header). Each day's portal page is followed by a subsection for suggestions and discussion.

Proxima Centauri
Proxima Centauri

How to nominate an item[edit]

In order to suggest a candidate:

  • Update an article to be linked to from the blurb to include the recent developments, or find an article that has already been updated.
  • Find the correct section below for the date of the event (not the date nominated) in UTC.
    • Do not add sections for new dates. These are automatically generated (at midnight UTC) by a bot; creating them manually breaks this process. Remember, we use UTC dates.
  • Nominate the blurb for ITN inclusion under the "Suggestions" subheading for the date, emboldening the link in the blurb to the updated article. Use a level 4 header (====) when doing so.
    • Preferably use the template {{ITN candidate}} to nominate the article related to the event in the news. Make sure that you include a reference from a verifiable, reliable source. The suggested blurb should be written in simple present tense.
    • Adding an explanation why the event should be posted greatly increases the odds of posting. For recent deaths, please state why the person is notable enough to post - merely having a Wikipedia article is insufficient.
  • Please consider alerting editors to the nomination by adding the template {{ITN note}} to the corresponding article's talk page.

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There are criteria which guide the decision on whether or not to put a particular item on In the news, based largely on the extensiveness of the updated content and the perceived significance of the recent developments. These are listed at WP:ITN.

Submissions that do not follow the guidelines at Wikipedia:In the news will not be placed onto the live template.


  • Items that have been posted or pulled from the main page are generally marked with [Posted] or [Pulled] in the item's subject so it is clear they are no longer active.
  • Items can also be marked as [Ready] when the article is both updated and there seems to be a consensus to post. The posting admin, however, should always judge the update and the consensus to post themselves. If you find an entry that you don't feel is ready to post is marked [Ready], you should remove the header.

Voicing an opinion on an item[edit]

  • Format your comment to contain "support" or "oppose", and include a brief (or detailed!) rationale for your choice. Comments and other objections are welcome, but this is the basic form.
  • Some jargon: RD refers to "recent deaths", a subsection of the news box which lists only the names of the recent notable deceased. Blurb refers to the full sentences that occupy most of the news box. Most eligible deaths will be listed in the recent deaths section of the ITN template. However, some deaths may be given a full listing if there is sufficient consensus to do so.
  • The blurb of a promoted ITN item may be modified to complement the existing items on the main page.

Please do not...[edit]

  • ... add simple "support" or "oppose" !votes without including your reasons. Similarly, curt replies such as "who?", "meh", or "duh!" are usually not helpful. Instead, explain the reasons why you think the item meets or does not meet the ITN inclusion criteria so a consensus can be reached.
  • ... oppose an item because the event is only relating to a single country, or failing to relate to one. This applies to a high percentage of the content we post and is unproductive.
  • ... accuse other editors of supporting, opposing or nominating due a to personal bias (such as ethnocentrism). Conflicts of interest are not handled at ITN.
  • ... comment on a story without first reading the relevant article(s).
  • ... oppose an item because it is not on WP:ITN/R.
  • ... oppose a WP:ITN/R item here because you disagree with current WP:ITN/R criteria (these can be discussed at the relevant Talk Page)


August 29[edit]

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August 28[edit]

Portal:Current events/2016 August 28
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[RD] Juan Gabriel[edit]

Article: Juan Gabriel
Recent deaths nomination
Nominator: Magiciandude (talk • give credit)

Per this RFC, the nomination of any person with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article.

 Erick (talk) 22:45, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Juan Gabriel was prolific Mexican singer-songwriter whose death was confirmed by the LA coroner's office and the president of Mexico. Gabriel was honored an induction in the International Latin Music Hall of Fame, the Billboard Latin Music Hall of Fame, and named Latin Recording Academy Person of the Year in 2009. His album, Recuerdos, Vol. II is the bestselling album of all time in Mexico. In addition to singing, he also composed songs for other Latin artists such as Rocio Durcal, José José, and Isabel Pantoja. Erick (talk) 22:45, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Support - definitely notable. Article could use some work though.—Fundude99talk to me 22:52, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
I want to improve on the article, but there's so many edits coming, it makes it hard. I'll see what I can do at the least. Erick (talk) 22:58, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment Wikipedia en Español's main page has added his death to recent deaths.—Fundude99talk to me 00:04, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support per nom, when ready. I cannot help with this right now, but in a few hours I will. © Tbhotch (en-2.5). 23:00, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Strong Support per nom. – jona 23:16, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

Farc ceasefire[edit]

Articles: Colombian conflict and FARC
Blurb: Colombian FARC rebels announce a definitive ceasefire.
News source(s): BBC
Nominator: The Rambling Man (talk • give credit)

 The Rambling Man (talk) 21:38, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

August 27[edit]

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August 26[edit]

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Bolivian Deputy Minister murdered[edit]

Article: Rodolfo Illanes
Blurb: Bolivian Deputy Interior Minister Rodolfo Illanes is kidnapped and beaten to death by miners.
Alternative blurb: Bolivian Deputy Interior Minister Rodolfo Illanes dies after being kidnapped and beaten by miners.
News source(s): SMH BBC
Nominator: EternalNomad (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: I think this murder is unusual and notable enough to be posted (as we did with Jo Cox), if we can get the article up to standard. EternalNomad (talk) 15:07, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Support - definitely notable. article could need some work though before posting.--BabbaQ (talk) 12:05, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose – That Mr. Illanes was a deputy minister lessens notability. Article (225 words) contains little to augment notability. Sca (talk) 14:49, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

[Posted] Third Bosphorus bridge[edit]

Article: Yavuz Sultan Selim Bridge
Blurb: A third bridge across the Bosphorus, Yavuz Sultan Selim Bridge opens to traffic.
Alternative blurb: Yavuz Sultan Selim Bridge, the world's widest and tallest cable-stayed suspension bridge, opens to traffic across the Bosphorus.
News source(s): TRT World
Nominator: Brandmeister (talk • give credit)

Article updated

 Brandmeistertalk 11:46, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Comment If this is posted I think the blurb should note that it's the tallest and broadest suspension bridge in the world, as that is (imho) more newsworthy than simply being the third bridge across a particular bit of water. There is at least one cn tag that needs addressing though. Thryduulf (talk) 11:50, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
Added altblurb. Brandmeistertalk 13:02, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • support - definitely notable. article needs some work before posting.BabbaQ (talk) 12:06, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support, it makes sense to highlight that it is the tallest. Ready to post when the issues with the article are resolved. --Tone 16:51, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
I've commented out the uncited sentence. Brandmeistertalk 17:26, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Posted, the superlatives in the article simply refer to suspension bridge so I left the cable-stayed modifier out. Stephen 23:37, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Edited It appears that the bridge is not the widest suspension bridge, hook edited, see ERRORS. Black Kite (talk) 00:55, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Dragonfly 44[edit]

Article: Dragonfly 44
Blurb: A newly-discovered galaxy known as Dragonfly 44 appears to be made up mostly of dark matter.
News source(s): (IBTimes)
Nominator: Shhhhwwww!! (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: Significant scientific discovery. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 12:14, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Comment. The article is not remotely ready to be on the main page. Not sure whether or not this would be worth posting if a more substantial article were available. Dragons flight (talk) 12:52, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment - article is not ready per Dragons flight, but the idea is potentially postable. A lot depends on the technicalities, however, and if it is posted it will have to be carefully explained why this matters. I'll take a look at it when I can. Banedon (talk) 12:54, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support if the Wiki-article is judged to be good enough. This observation is very interesting, it fits a lot better in the idea that dark matter doesn't primarily consist of subatomic particles but rather consists of massive black holes (20 to 100 times the solar mass). Such massive black holes can form in certain inflationary scenarios, see e.g. here, and they would then be able to act as the seeds for galaxies to form. In the usual particle dark matter theories, it's difficult to explain how galaxies with supermassive black holes formed very soon after the Big Bang. Also, the first detection of gravitational waves was due to a black hole merger that as pointed out here could well have been such primordial black holes. Count Iblis (talk) 18:07, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose primarily on article quality. It needs significant expansion with good sourcing. Will happily reconsider if this happens. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:53, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose stub, marked as such. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:16, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose for several reasons. First, this is not that significant to the general public as the Proxima Centauri b blurb (although from a fundamental standpoint it's likely to be more significant). Second, the reasons why it is important are relatively technical, which in turn means only a specialized group of people (i.e. scientists) are keen about this. Third, from what I gather the dark matter is inferred by the mass-to-luminosity ratio, which doesn't rule out baryonic dark matter in this case. It's still interesting alright, I just don't think it's at the level of ITN (yet). Banedon (talk) 04:00, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment. The galaxy was discovered over a year ago. What is new is the hypothesis that its dimness is due to its being made of mostly dark matter. Abductive (reasoning) 06:54, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose due to extreme brevity of stub article. Abductive (reasoning) 06:54, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument
Blurb: Barack Obama expands the Papahānaumokuākea Marine National Monument off the coast of Hawai'i, making it the largest national park on the planet.
News source(s): (The Washington Post)
Nominator: Shhhhwwww!! (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: It is one of the largest parks in the world and now the crowning legacy of Obama. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 12:14, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Comment. I'm pretty sure the phrasing should be "largest marine reserve" or maybe "largest protected area" (depending on whether or not one chooses to count Antarctica). It's not a park, and marine reserves generally aren't described as such. Also, I don't think the suggested image is clear enough at this size to be useful. Dragons flight (talk) 12:44, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose I don't see the blurb referenced in the article, I do see "It is one of the largest marine protected areas (MPAs) in the world" and that's it. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:15, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose – Seems rather a bureaucratic move – something on his to-do list before leaving office. Sca (talk) 14:51, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Pegasus cyber warfare[edit]

Article: Pegasus (spyware)
Blurb: Apple Inc. fixes iOS vulnerability characterised as cyber-warfare
Alternative blurb: Apple Inc. fixes iOS vulnerability targeting human rights campaigners
Alternative blurb II: Apple Inc. fixes iOS vulnerability exploited by cyber-war company
Alternative blurb III: Bugs in iOS uncovered by Citizen Lab have been exploited for years by governments to spy on dissidents and journalists.
News source(s): BBC News, New York Times Washington Post
Nominator and updater: Samsara (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: Major event linking tech news to geopolitics. Vulnerability affecting all iOS 9 devices - including about 900 million mobile phones worldwide. Samsara 12:30, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Support More of this. security vulnerabilities of this caliber has big real-world significance. Thue (talk) 14:16, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support - per user Thue.BabbaQ (talk) 15:18, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose for now. Article is a bit short. Would support with appropriate expansion. --Jayron32 15:32, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Is the story here about an American company fixing a flaw, an Israeli company accused of creating the software or the Emirati activist who clicked on a link? I can't tell from the blurbs or the article. Fuebaey (talk) 16:32, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
    • Agree, the blurbs need clarification, at least what sort of vulnerability it is. Brandmeistertalk 17:50, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
      • Technically, there are three vulnerabilities - too much detail for a blurb. Samsara 18:04, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
I ask because a link to the article is not included in the blurbs, and without a point of focus I am unsure where to suggest adding it. The Israeli company, NSO Group actually has a better update and might be worth considering here. Fuebaey (talk) 20:11, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support.--WaltCip (talk) 17:04, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose what's the blurb linking to what article? The Rambling Man (talk) 21:14, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose: These three particular flaws in iOS had the same caliber as the one reported just a few days earlier used by Pangu Team to jailbreak iOS 9.3.3 and earlier. And they have yet another one for the latest iOS 9.3.5. In other words, zero-days leak these will be uncovered every other week. Also, keep in mind that the Pegasus spyware was used against probably only a handful of people, so it's of relatively small "geopolitical" impact as the nominator put it. --bender235 (talk) 15:27, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Added alt blurb to summarize the issue. Still don't think it's ITN material though. --bender235 (talk) 15:58, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

August 25[edit]

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[Posted] RD: Dame Margaret Anstee[edit]

Article: Margaret Anstee
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): UNA-UN
Nominator: MurielMary (talk • give credit)

Article updated

Per this RFC, the nomination of any person with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article.

Nominator's comments: UN diplomat. Article fully sourced. MurielMary (talk) 04:42, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Support decent article. The Rambling Man (talk) 06:51, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support. One {{when?}} tag in the article but that's not a barrier and it's otherwise in good shape. Thryduulf (talk) 11:53, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support decent article. BabbaQ (talk) 12:05, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Posted. Espresso Addict (talk) 19:43, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

RD: Rudy Van Gelder[edit]

Article: Rudy Van Gelder
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NY Times KQED
Nominator: Challenger l (talk • give credit)

Per this RFC, the nomination of any person with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article.

Nominator's comments: Article looks pretty good, could use a few more sources and a pic (if possible) Challenger l (talk) 08:44, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Oppose too many citations needed. Picture irrelevant, not going in as a blurb. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:17, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

[Posted] RD: Sonia Rykiel[edit]

Article: Sonia Rykiel
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): BBC, NY Times, Vogue, Deutsche Welle
Nominator and updater: JuneGloom07 (talk • give credit)

Article updated

Per this RFC, the nomination of any person with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article.

Nominator's comments: French fashion designer, known as the "Queen of Knitwear". Rykiel was also a writer. She received several French honours, including the Legion of Honor from two presidents. The article needs some work, as it's mostly unsourced. JuneGloom07 Talk 15:39, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Oppose I had a bit of a crack at this earlier, but it's nowhere near ready, poor grammar, bad English, mainly unreferenced, some updates needed. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:51, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose I also had a look earlier, needs a lot of work to bring it up to main page standard. MurielMary (talk) 21:04, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Change to support. Great work on improvements, nice to have an image of her work as well. Agree it's "ready". MurielMary (talk) 21:14, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
    • I've rewritten and sourced everything, but the honors section. I could use some help with that, if anyone has a bit of spare time. - JuneGloom07 Talk 21:49, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Great work, JuneGloom, much improved. Almost ready! MurielMary (talk) 10:12, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
    • With the exception of two honours, everything is now sourced. User:Fuebaey did a great job helping out with that section. - JuneGloom07 Talk 20:45, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • support after improvements. Great.BabbaQ (talk) 21:05, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment vastly improved, good work, ready to go. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:13, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Posted. Espresso Addict (talk) 17:55, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

[Pulled] Fall of Qayyarah[edit]

Article: Mosul offensive (2016)
Blurb: The Iraqi Armed Forces capture Qayyarah from Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
Alternative blurb: Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi declares Iraqi Armed Forces have captured Qayyarah from Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
News source(s): Al Jazeera, Andalou Agency
Nominator and updater: Newsboy39 (talk • give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: An important town that is centre of a region containing large amounts of oil. In addition, its capture is strategically important as it cuts off routes between ISIL-controlled Nineveh Governorate and ISIL-controlled Kirkuk GovernorateNewsboy39 (talk) 19:02, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

  • For starters, we should have kept the ISIL conflict in Iraq posted in ongoing. Apart from that, if this can be confirmed, support as a significant occurrence in the war.--WaltCip (talk) 20:16, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Do you have an appropriately updated article I can post in ongoing for you?--Jayron32 23:51, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Jayron32 Were you asking me? Newsboy39 (talk) 00:12, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Nope.--Jayron32 02:15, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support - looks pretty obvious to me. Banedon (talk) 00:42, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose/Wait - not convinced by the importance. Is there any objective measure of the town's importance? e.g. population or oil production numbers? HaEr48 (talk) 04:00, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
Comment: HaEr48 The oil fields of Qayyarah produces 8,000 barrels of oil per day according to Oil production and smuggling in ISIL and the region contains over 800 million barrels of oil reserves according to Qayyarah subdistrict. Newsboy39 (talk) 09:45, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Posted No substantive objections on quality, and I checked myself and it looks fine. --Jayron32 18:00, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Post-posting oppose. The town is very small, and the article on it was created in May 2016. I question the strategic importance of this move and note that it is mostly Iraqi goverment officials crowing about it. (Primary sources, in other words). Furthermore, the entry of Turkish forces into the major town of Jarabulus seems to me to be more worthy of inclusion on ITN. Abductive (reasoning) 06:59, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose this is the 3rd capture posted on ITNR in the past few months. Nergaal (talk) 08:15, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose and pull. Abductive has it spot on. The Rambling Man (talk) 08:18, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose as well. I don't see major western media reporting it (at the risk of being west-centric), and even Al Jazeera has a rather small article about it. I am not sure if it is of great importance to be on ITN. MikeLynch (talk) 08:59, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose and pull only a strategic step on the way to Mosul. Stephen 09:44, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose and pull Not of major relevance nor widely covered in the media. As Abductive said, the capture of Jarabulus (see below) is the recent major event to be promoted ITN. --PanchoS (talk) 17:08, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Pulled. Clearly a consensus against this being on the main page. Black Kite (talk) 20:17, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support Posting - OTHERSTUFFEXIST is irrelevant really. BabbaQ (talk) 12:07, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
    Nobody argued WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, they argued "not relevant", "not covered in the news", "not significant". The Rambling Man (talk) 21:35, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

[Closed] Iraqi Defence Minister impeached[edit]

Closed as nomination withdrawn with no supporting !votes. -Ad Orientem (talk) 18:58, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: Khaled al-Obaidi
Blurb: Defence Minister of Iraq Khaled al-Obaidi is impeached in a no-confidence vote
News source(s): Haaretz, Stratfor
Nominator and updater: Newsboy39 (talk • give credit)

Article updated
Nominator's comments: The post of Defence Minister is an important one and Khaled al-Obaidi is the first defence minister to be impeached since fall of Saddam's government. His impeachment assumed even more signifance as Iraqi forces are preparing to assault Mosul in order to take it back from Islamic State of Iraq and the LevantNewsboy39 (talk) 11:32, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose. We don't often post articles about government officials below the head-of-state level, and I don't see this case as being significant enough to warrant an exception. Also, the article leaves a lot to be desired. At present, it does not explain what he has done as Defense Minister or what led him to be sacked. Dragons flight (talk) 12:23, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose Pretty much per Dragons flight. Article is a stub and would need expanding. The article update on this story literally is "became minister in 2014 and 22 months later was voted out". Firstly, what did he [not] do during that time that made him significant? I'm guessing that shouldn't be in short supply given the amount of violence currently occurring in Iraq. Secondly, what led up to his removal? There's a brief mention of corruption, but there's no context to it. Fuebaey (talk) 16:59, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Withdrawal of submission by author: I agree with some of the objections raised by others. I'll try to improve the artice though I'm not sure if I will be able to. Therefore I think it is better to withdraw this. I request the administrators to please close this request. Newsboy39 (talk) 18:53, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

August 24[edit]

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  • A police officer from Bethel, Alaska, will be sentenced to prison for charges related to police brutality in a 2014 case involving an intoxicated man. The charges followed an investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigations civil rights division. The former officer, Andrew Reid, was found to have used excessive force and lying on official police reports. The victim suffered a separated shoulder and other injuries. (Alaska Dispatch News)
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RD: Michel Butor[edit]

Article: Michel Butor
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Le Monde
Nominator: Bagoto (talk • give credit)

Article updated

Per this RFC, the nomination of any person with a standalone Wikipedia article whose recent death is in the news is presumed to be important enough to post. Discussion should focus only on the quality of the article.

Nominator's comments: Notable novelist, poet and critic during the rise of Structuralism and the nouveau roman. Article is of considerable length. Bagoto (talk) 22:35, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Oppose on several grounds. Article is brief (only 4-ish paragraphs); not well organized (first paragraph about early life mentions his awards); not updated for tenses on his death; has irrelevant minor details e.g. someone said he would like to sit next to Butor at dinner; lacks citations for awards. MurielMary (talk) 02:51, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose per MurielMary. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:29, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

[Posted] Proxima Centauri b[edit]

Proposed image
Article: Proxima Centauri b
Blurb: The exoplanet Proxima Centauri b is discovered in the habitable zone around Proxima Centauri, the star closest to the Sun.
News source(s): Nature BBC The Economist NY Times
Nominator: Sandstein (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: Astronomical discovery of historical significance.  Sandstein  17:57, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Oppose The article suffers from some referencing problems, which is a quality issue. Would need to remove those cn issues. A high proportion of factual information, which should be referencable, lacks cites. Fix that and I'd support. --Jayron32 18:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
@Jayron32: It looks like the sourcing has now been substantially improved. Also currently on the front page of most mainstream media websites.  Sandstein  20:16, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Change to Support per recent growth and improvements in citations. --Jayron32 23:35, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support This is a prominent discovery, since the planet orbits not only the nearest star to the solar system, but has properties similar to Earth, and orbits within the habitable zone. The quality of the article is sufficient now. Facts are sourced either in the prose or in the infobox, usually not both. Gap9551 (talk) 20:31, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Now. I don't know if this is bigger than Sputnik, but it's probably the biggest news you've had a chance to feature. And the editors have even put in the work to build the article already! That's a bonus, not a requirement, when it's something like this. Knock off something from your lugubrious litany of pointless deaths and put this up now. Wnt (talk) 20:52, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support: The nature of the discovery is very important (and probably historic). The article contains sufficient info about the topic and well sourced. HaEr48 (talk) 21:01, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support: This is a major discovery. I think the article is sufficiently developed and will continue to improve. -Darouet (talk) 21:57, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support: This is like the mythical cure for cancer alluded to in the guidelines, and should be posted now regardless of article quality. Banedon (talk) 23:33, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
    I could write some bullshit in an article about a cure for cancer; if it isn't properly cited, how do you know the information is trustworthy? Should we post hoaxes merely because they are interesting hoaxes? --Jayron32 23:36, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
    Because I've seen the non-Wikipedia RS. Unless you are alleging a multiple-RS conspiracy to fool Wikipedia, the basic idea that there is a planet around our closest star is trustworthy. If you think the "cure for cancer" line should not be in the guidelines, feel free to remove it. Banedon (talk) 23:45, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
    Good for you. How does it serve the readers if you've seen the sources, and refuse to add them to the article? --Jayron32 01:29, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
    And how does it serve our readers that you spend time trashtalking me instead of improving the article yourself? Sheesh. Banedon (talk) 01:32, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
    You said you had access to sources and stated you wanted others to post this article though you didn't want to put them in the article. I have no particular interest one way or the other. You care, and you have the ability to fix the problem. That's why you should fix it. --Jayron32 08:32, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
    I am not particularly interested in talking to you about this topic anymore. As of time of writing, I have 9 edits to that article. You have zero. The end. Banedon (talk) 08:39, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
    The discovery of the planet itself was properly sourced from the start, but some factual details were not, and some were later shown to be incorrect and fixed. Gap9551 (talk) 23:49, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
    (e/c) You are totally right, and your initial oppose was fully appropriate. We should never showcase insufficiently sourced articles. If the topic is very important, it will attract editors, and the article quality will improve soon enough anyway. Gap9551 (talk) 23:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Posted. I haven't used the image as it is only an artists' impression; but if someone else thinks the existing image should be replaced with this one feel free to do it. Black Kite (talk) 23:44, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I applaud the restraint of our editors in not giving into the sensationalism that the media usually suffers from with regards to space news. It's enough to say that this planet is in the "habitable zone" and not use buzzterms like "earth-like" or "might sustain intelligent life".--WaltCip (talk) 12:05, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

RD: Walter Scheel[edit]

Article: Walter Scheel
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Die Zeit, Spiegel online
Nominator: Sca (talk • give credit)

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Former president (head of state) and former foreign minister of (West) Germany. Sca (talk) 15:47, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Oppose Article quality (mostly referencing) is substandard. Needs a lot more references to be sufficient. Some expansion wouldn't hurt either. I would expect a head-of-state of a major world power to have more than a screen's worth of text about their life story. I wouldn't hold it up over the length, however, if the referencing were better. --Jayron32 16:22, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Tagged it. Touching on what Jayron32 said - although the president is mainly ceremonial, I'd expect a brief paragraph on his 5-year role. As is, it looks as if the office was a footnote in his political career. Surely there are sources on the politicking after Brandt's resignation and Scheel being manoeuvred into office; the FDP alone wouldn't have had the numbers to get him there. Were there any significant events during his presidency? Fuebaey (talk) 16:55, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
Per RFC, we needn't argue notability. However, my impression is, Scheel as foreign minister was a figure of medium importance in the Ostpolitik of Brandt & Co. (He was succeeded by Genscher, a figure of major importance.) Sca (talk) 00:14, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Sorry, I was trying to give a scope for expansion. It is still unlikely to be posted with referencing unaddressed. Fuebaey (talk) 02:00, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
In any case, his notability seems associated with the post of foreign minister, not with that of president, which in Ger. is essentially ceremonial. Sca (talk) 02:03, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose in current state as too many unreferenced statements. MurielMary (talk) 02:48, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose per the above. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:30, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
It's not particularly relevant, but I was surprised to learn that Scheel was also a singer ... of sorts. (Not my sort!) Sca (talk) 20:11, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

[Posted] Earthquake in central Italy[edit]

Article: 2016 Central Italy earthquake
Blurb: At least 37 people are killed as an earthquake of magnitude 6.2 strikes central Italy.
News source(s): CNN
Nominator: MurielMary (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: unfolding event; suggest adding blurb later as story develops MurielMary (talk) 09:16, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Support once we've expanded beyond the decent stub. One more para should do as we get more information. The Rambling Man (talk) 09:27, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support without expansion. The article looks good. - 2A02:2F0B:B0B6:C600:7D8C:124E:8321:15DA (talk) 09:36, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support - The confirmed death toll has now risen to 37. (BBC) AlexTiefling (talk) 09:55, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support. Expansion would be good (obviously) but I don't think it's required. Thryduulf (talk) 10:05, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment: I think the blurb should be modified to: At least 37 people are killed as an earthquake of magnitude 6.2 strikes central Italy. MikeLynch (talk) 10:11, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
    Done. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:12, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Posted. MikeLynch (talk) 10:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

[Posted] Fall of Jarabulus[edit]

Article: Jarabulus offensive (2016)
Blurb: Turkish-backed Syrian opposition captures Jarabulus from Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant
Alternative blurb: Turkish forces enters Northern Syria, as Turkish-backed opposition forces capture the border town Jarabulus from ISIL.
News source(s): CNN, Voice of America, NY Times, Business Insider, BBC, Times of Israel, Associated Press, Al Jazeera (2, 3), Daily Sabah
Nominator and updater: Newsboy39 (talk • give credit)

Article updated

Nominator's comments: The town was important as it was the only border crossing left under ISIL control from where they smuggled fighters and equipment. Newsboy39 (talk) 19:39, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Merge with the other nomination into one blurb. Banedon (talk) 05:40, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support. The incursion of Turkey, backed by the U.S. and largely tolerated by Russia and the Assad regime, has been widely considered a major turning point in the balance of powers in Northern Syria. Though anticipated for months, Turkish tanks in Syria mark a new chapter of Turkish involvement. --PanchoS (talk) 17:27, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose, ongoing is enough. Nergaal (talk) 22:38, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
  • @Nergaal: Please note that we don't have the Syrian Civil War listed as an ongoing event anymore. Anyway, this would stand out as a major game-changing event, rather than the usual routine news. --PanchoS (talk) 02:00, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support this or put something in ongoing. Abductive (reasoning) 02:20, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support Turkey sent massive forces into another (de iure) sovereign country. This needs to be on ITN. --bender235 (talk) 16:00, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support- major event.BabbaQ (talk) 16:23, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support - Significant event for foreign involvement in Syria, similar to when Russia started conducting bombings. HaEr48 (talk) 16:36, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Posted, while changing the attackers, given the mass tags at the top of Syrian opposition Stephen 23:27, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

August 23[edit]

Portal:Current events/2016 August 23
Armed conflicts and attacks
Arts and culture
  • Philippine officials believe they may have recovered biggest natural giant clam pearl in the world — weighing 34kg. Officials are awaiting confirmation from gemologists that the find is indeed the world's largest pearl. If confirmed, it will beat the current record holder, the Pearl of Lao Tzu, which weighs 6.4kg. (BBC)
Business and economy
International relations
Law and crime
Politics and elections

RD: Morihiko Hiramatsu[edit]

Article: Morihiko Hiramatsu
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): Japan Times
Nominator and updater: Dharmadhyaksha (talk • give credit)

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: He died on 21 August but death was announced on 23 August. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:08, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Oppose - very brief, not well organised (the information about other country's programmes isn't together with his project in Japan which they are supposedly modelled on), some unclear statements (what is the relevance of the statement about the Asia Pacific University??) And why did he get an award for being a friend of China - there's nothing in the article to suggest he did anything with China? MurielMary (talk) 09:44, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
Resolved them now. Please check. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 10:22, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

[Closed] Sea Shepherd[edit]

No consensus. Stephen 23:17, 28 August 2016 (UTC)

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Articles: Sea Shepherd Conservation Society and Whaling in Japan
Blurb: Anti-whaling group Sea Shepherd reaches agreement with the Institute of Cetacean Research to no longer disrupt Japan's annual whale hunts.
News source(s): BBC, Bloomberg, Kyodo via Nikkei Asia Review (talk) 06:55, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose because BBC story states that this settlement is only with Sea Shepherd's US organization; their Australian organization, which primarily is the one who fights the whalers, has said this does not affect them and that they will continue. 331dot (talk) 10:27, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose seems pretty minor. 331dot raises a good point. Aside from that, Sea Shepherd is only one private institution contesting the whaling activities. The whaling in Japan article also deals with broad swathes of issues not related to this case, and so it is at most only tangentially related. In fact as of time of writing I can't find mention of this case anywhere. Banedon (talk) 05:31, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

[Posted] RD: Esther Jungreis[edit]

Article: Esther Jungreis
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): The Jewish Week
Nominator: MurielMary (talk • give credit)

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Brief but well sourced article on a Jewish speaker/writer. MurielMary (talk) 01:21, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Oppose. The "writings" section is completely unsourced, and the "Awards, recognition" section is sourced almost entirely to a dead link. Thryduulf (talk) 10:10, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
    Second of those fixed thanks to the Wayback Machine. The Rambling Man (talk) 10:17, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
    Added citations to the "writings" section. MurielMary (talk) 10:42, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Tagging "attention needed" for further assessment/comment. MurielMary (talk) 21:05, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Weak support article is okay, improved from first viewing, nothing special but no major omissions. The Rambling Man (talk) 21:59, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Posted, on the short side but reasonably referenced. Stephen 23:17, 25 August 2016 (UTC)

RD: Steven Hill[edit]

Article: Steven Hill
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): NY Times
Nominator: Ad Orientem (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Well known actor for roles in Mission Impossible and as DA Adam Schiff in Law and Order. Article appears to be in generally good shape though a couple of paragraphs need sources. I will work on that directly. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:43, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Support - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 18:30, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support - there are a few sentences without inline citations but I am confident these can be cleaned up in due course. -- Notecardforfree (talk) 19:49, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support on improvements - there are a couple of places where more citations are needed, once that is done, it looks solid. Challenger l (talk) 23:08, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose too many outstanding citations. I've tagged several places, but there are a few more long sentences/sequences of sentences with a single source that I would need to check whether are fully supported but I don't have time currently. Thryduulf (talk) 10:18, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose too many citations needed right now, and a whole heap of appearances which don't have references or even a Wikipedia article to back them up. Please also note I've removed a fair use image which had no rationale for inclusion in this article. Watch out for those... The Rambling Man (talk) 10:24, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

August 22[edit]

Portal:Current events/2016 August 22
Disasters and accidents
International relations
Law and crime
Politics and elections
Science and technology

[Posted] RD: S. R. Nathan[edit]

Article: S. R. Nathan
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [1], [2], [3]
Nominator: starship.paint (talk • give credit)
Updater: Smuconlaw (talk • give credit)

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Nominator's comments: Longest serving President of Singapore (1999 to 2011) starship.paint ~ KO 14:32, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

  • I saw this earlier on Deaths in 2016. Glanced over it and saw several {{cn}} tags. I'll probably review it properly later. Fuebaey (talk) 14:40, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Went over it earlier, seems okay now. Fuebaey (talk) 20:52, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment. The referencing is not yet at the required standard. It doesn't seem to have improved since I last looked at it; is anyone working on it? Espresso Addict (talk) 02:23, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
There are still whole unreferenced paragraphs. Espresso Addict (talk) 03:23, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Weak oppose I'm still seeing a handful of unreferenced sentences. The Rambling Man (talk) 05:56, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
  • I don't have time to check this fully (wrong end of day), but the citation lacks I spotted earlier now seem covered. Good work. Espresso Addict (talk) 14:40, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Posted, sufficiently improved. Stephen 23:26, 23 August 2016 (UTC)

[Removed] 2016 Turkish purges[edit]

Article: 2016 Turkish purges
Ongoing item removal
Nominator: Fuebaey (talk • give credit)

Nominator's comments: This event has been linked on ongoing since 26 July, and six days prior to that as a blurb after an unsuccessful coup attempt on 15 July. The last significant thing I read from this was an arrest warrant for footballer/soccer player Hakan Şükür ten days ago and the most recent addition to the article was a UN reaction a few days ago. Not enough in my opinion to sustain this event on ongoing. Fuebaey (talk) 14:15, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Support It's fallen off the radar for most of the world's press/media. We can revisit the topic if something significant happens. -Ad Orientem (talk) 20:19, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support removal it's all gone quiet over there, at least as far as global news goes. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:30, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Removed Stephen 23:17, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
Actually is not uquiet with the new war on PKK and continued purges p[4]Lihaas (talk) 16:32, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
That may be true, but the requirement to be posted on Ongoing is frequent updates to the article (generally often enough as to outpace postings on ITN). The fact that the article history shows no major updates in well over a week, excepting a few incidental "politician makes statement" type updates, is why this was removed. If you'd like to see it remain in "ongoing" you'd need to keep updating the article with substantive information over several days, and demonstrate that it is continuously changing and the article is continuously updated. --Jayron32 18:27, 24 August 2016 (UTC)

[Posted] RD: Toots Thielemans[edit]

Article: Toots Thielemans
Recent deaths nomination
News source(s): [5], [6], [7]
Nominator: (talk • give credit)
Updater: (talk • give credit)

Article updated

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Nominator's comments: Globally known harmonica player, played with all the greats. (talk) 10:21, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

  • Oppose several whole paragraphs completely unreferenced. MurielMary (talk) 10:31, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Oppose. Few references - most of the article is a bullet list - it feels very lacking in substance. Everything in order now. Kudos to the anon that cleaned it up - great work! Challenger l (talk) 03:36, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Weak support Strong Support – the article is improving, now having references throughout and a new section. Looks more substantial now. The person in question also seems highly notable, though I may be biased as I'm currently living in the Netherlands. I don't know how much international interest this person has. ~Mable (chat) 20:21, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Quite a bit in the jazz arena, ie. "Toots Thielemans - Live At The Hague Jazz Festival (2010)" --Light show (talk) 21:46, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
Article definitely meets standards now. ~Mable (chat) 22:32, 23 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support. Updated and improved. --Light show (talk) 03:38, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
    Thanks for your work, Light show! ---Sluzzelin talk 03:54, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • There isn't a single reference for his body of work, including all his appearances as a side man. Stephen 04:12, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
I added many to the Discography section. The Side man section has links going to their own articles, most of which seem to have his name included. --Light show (talk) 08:29, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Support. After the recent improvements. The harmonica player for the Sesame Street theme should be recognised. Only in death does duty end (talk) 08:36, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Comment still at least two explicit citation needed tags. Thryduulf (talk) 10:22, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
  • Posted improved sufficiently, and I added a couple of bare URLs for those cites that I'll fix up. Stephen 10:29, 24 August 2016 (UTC)


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