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There were protests against her visit to the U.S. in 1964 (eg. [http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/stand_columbia/Timeline1946-64.html]). Was this just because of her former HJ membership, or were there other reasons? [[User:Drutt|Drutt]] ([[User talk:Drutt|talk]]) 19:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC) |
There were protests against her visit to the U.S. in 1964 (eg. [http://beatl.barnard.columbia.edu/stand_columbia/Timeline1946-64.html]). Was this just because of her former HJ membership, or were there other reasons? [[User:Drutt|Drutt]] ([[User talk:Drutt|talk]]) 19:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC) |
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== She never made a public appearance in Spain == |
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From 1967 on, she lived in Chennai (Madras), India. |
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She died while undergoing plastic surgery. Eyelid surgery. Her daughter Queen Sofia of Spain was skiing. ¿Cataracts? |
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Contrary to the 'first edition' of this page Frederika was not a Princess of Great Britain. Giano 21:24, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Title of Princess of Great Britain
Actually, Frederika of Hanover was actually a "Princess of Great Britain & Ireland" with the style of "Highness". Below is the footnote that is reference in the wiki article about her father, Ernst Augustus III, Duke of Brunswick:
2 By Royal Warrant of 17 June 1914, King George V granted the eldest son and any children thereafter born to Prince Ernst August of Hanover, then reigning Duke of Brunswick-Lüneburg, the title of Prince (or Princess) of Great Britain and Ireland with the style Highness. The provisions of this Royal Warrant ceased with George V's Letters Patent of 30 November 1917, and Hanoverian princes and princesses born after this date were no longer allowed the title Prince of Great Britain and Ireland with the style Highness.
So from her birth until the Letters Patent of November 30, 1917, Frederika of Hanover was also a Princess of Great Britain.68.1.178.185 01:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed, but more specifically a Princess of Great Britain and Ireland. Funny thing is I have never specifically seen "United Kingdom" use, but it must have been applied. To this day, members of the House of Hanover use the titles Prince/Princess of Hanover, Duke/Duchess of Brunswick and Lunenburg, Royal Prince/Princess of Great Britain and Ireland. Charles 03:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
Biased article
This article should be checked for its neutrality as it is politically biased. Especially the part "Reign" should be rewritten altogether as it presents only proroyalist arguments. The opposition's accusations were really reasonable and well founded. The problem with that royal family unlike other in Europe is that it had often sided with the right or even with military dictatorhips, thus identifying itself with only a fraction of the political spectrum far from being the unifying symbolic figure the monarch is in Spain or Britain. In addition queen Federica was notorious for her numerous arbitrary and counterconstitutional interventions in Greek politics and clashes with democratically elected governments, thus jeopardizing national interests. The fact that monarchy has been abolished in Greece because of the people's disdain for the autocracy of Federica and her likes should seriously concern whoever is going to revise the article. --Conudrum 15:31, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
I agree that this article can be checked for neutrality but I challenge anyone to dispute what is written in the current revision. This article should have been challenged by others a year ago when it stated that (and I paraphrase) "2000 children are believed to be illegally [sold] to [wealthy} American families" by the Queen through the Paidopoleis. This is all that was written before about the Children's Camps or Paidopoleis. That was a biased statement used by the Communist Party of Greece then and ever since. In fact it is untrue when one does the research (see NY Times article August 13, 1996 by Raymond Bonner paragraph 17 where a "photoshop owner" is quoted as saying that up to 2000 children sailed to the US aboard the ship "Queen Frederika". The article states that children were adopted from orphanages and hospitals from the 1930s to the 1970s and not Paidopoleis, however it has been used by some to assign personal responsibilty to Queen Frederika). Why wasn't it challenged then I wonder? There is no credible evidence that children were ever sold to Americans through any Greek Royal institutions. In fact there have been hundreds of testimonies written disputing these claims (see "Eleni" by Nicholas Gage, "I Phoni tis Eirinis" by I. Bougas, "Oi Paidolpoleis" among many books written on this matter). The current article describes the official designation of the Paidopoleis Program (why they were set up) and also states the opposing view.Dydimos 17:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
In agreement with Conudrum that this article's 'Reign' section is very politically biased. It is true there are several conflicting viewpoints and opinions about the actions of Queen Fredirika through the Paidopoleis. Nonetheless, rather than challenging the correctness of the content, the article should be checked for the style of neutrality in presentation of the facts regardless of the opinions. The bias of the 'Reign' section does indeed compromise the neutrality of this article, being completely in defense in every possible way of the queen's actions, indeed I have yet to see an article here on Wikipedia with more one-sided bias than in the pro-royal defense in this article. I also agree with Conudrum that the 'Reign" section needs a rewrite, and if not that, a change in the style of presentation. Armuk 15:58, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Title errors
From November 8 th 1918 until January 9 th 1938 her style in Germany was: Frederika Princess of Hannover, Duchess of Brunswick-Lüneburg, without the HRH, because of the abolishing of the monarchy. --Kai27 (talk) 12:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)Kai27
U.S. Protests
There were protests against her visit to the U.S. in 1964 (eg. [1]). Was this just because of her former HJ membership, or were there other reasons? Drutt (talk) 19:49, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
She never made a public appearance in Spain
From 1967 on, she lived in Chennai (Madras), India.
She died while undergoing plastic surgery. Eyelid surgery. Her daughter Queen Sofia of Spain was skiing. ¿Cataracts?
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