Talk:Turkish people

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The article has gone through a large article bloat, although this has already been discussed on this page it has obviously not stopped. Edit wars have also increased over some issues, thus i have created a new template (Template: Turkish ethnicity) which is basically the information from the info box which was on this article. This strategy has helped to lower the bytes by 11,500 bytes. Therefore discussions on the popultion figures should be dealt with on Template talk:Turkish ethnicity. I hope this helps us to improve this article once and for all...Thetruthonly (talk) 18:42, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Turkish timeline

Why you are adding only Turkey and Ottoman Empire?--Ilhanli (talk) 13:39, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

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IN 10th century Anatolian population is 12 MILLION: It is false

During the Bronze Age the population of Anatolia expanded, reaching an estimated level of 12 million during the late Byzantine Empire period. ???????????????

This reference is not true.

ın last Byzantine era population is not 12 million, only one or two million anatolian people lived in these times. Also, only 200.000 or 400.000 people lived in İstanbul same time .

Whereas, in Ottoman era, Anatolian population reached 10 million.

When the Turkey founded, the population is 13 million. !!!!

In the centuries after the Battle of Manzikert local populations began to assimilate to the emerging Turkish population ????????????????????

Why local Kurdish people didnt begin to assimilate?

--193.140.180.223 (talk) 14:14, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

The reason why Kurdish people didnt assimilate is because they were Muslims when the Turks came.The other Anatolians,they converted to Islam from the Turks,so no suprise they eventually adopted their language and culture.But not all converted Anatolians became Turkified.An example would be the Pontic Greek Muslims. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.50.77.208 (talk) 05:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Blatant copyright infringement from here Ancient DNA Tells Tales from the Grave in the chapter Ethnogenesis and genetic links

DNA from a 2,000-year-old burial site in Mongolia has revealed new information about the Xiongnu, a nomadic tribe that once reigned in Central Asia. Researchers in France studied DNA from more than 62 skeletons to reconstruct the history and social organization of a long-forgotten culture.

The researchers found that interbreeding between Europeans and Asians occurred much earlier than previously thought. They also found DNA sequences similar to those in present-day Turks, supporting the idea that some of the Turkish people originated in Mongolia.

The research also provides glimpses into the Xiongnu culture. Elaborate burials were reserved for the elite members of society, who were often buried with sacrificial animals and humans at the time of burial. And relatives were often buried next to each other.

“This is the first time that a complete view of the social organization of an ancient cemetery based on genetic data was obtained,” says Christine Keyser-Tracqui of the Institut de Médecine Légale in Strasbourg, France. “It also helps us understand the history of contacts between the Asiatic and European populations more than 2,000 years ago.”

The necropolis, or burial site, was discovered in 1943 by a joint Mongolian-Russian expedition in a region known as the Egyin Gol Valley of Mongolia. Skeletons in the site were well preserved because of the dry, cold climate. The researchers estimated that the site was used from the 3rd century B.C. to the 2nd century A.D.

The researchers were able to figure out how various skeletons may have been related by analyzing three different types of DNA. They used mitochondrial DNA, which is inherited only from the mother, Y-chromosome DNA, which is passed from father to son, and autosomal DNA (that is, everything but the X and Y chromosomes), which is inherited from both mother and father.

Egyin Gol region of Mongolia with detail from a map of the Egyin Gol burial site. View full © 2003 American Journal of Genetics

Most scientists had previously thought that people from Asia mixed with Europeans sometime after the 13th century, when Ghengis Khan conquered most of Asia and parts of the Persian Empire. However, Keyser-Tracqui and her coworkers detected DNA sequences from Europeans in the Xiongnu skeletons.

“This suggests that interbreeding between the European and Asian people in this part of the world occurred before the rise of the Xiongnu culture,” says Keyser-Tracqui.

The oldest section of the burial site contained many double graves. This may reflect the ancient practice of sacrificing and burying a concubine of the deceased along with horses and other animals. This practice, reserved for the more privileged members of society, was apparently abandoned—later sections of burial site revealed no double graves.

The most recent sector of the necropolis contained only the remains of related males, a burial grouping that had never been seen before.

Skeletons from the most recent graves also contained DNA sequences similar to those in people from present-day Turkey. This supports other studies indicating that Turkish tribes originated at least in part in Mongolia at the end of the Xiongnu period.

This research is mentioned in the article Genetic origins of the Turkish people. I will remove this text. Jingby (talk) 13:54, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

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Definition of Turkish people

In the very first sentence it says: "The Turkish people (Turkish: Türk Halkı), also known as "Turks" (Türkler) are defined mainly as being speakers of Turkish as a first language."

So really if someone of Turkish ethnicity doesn't speak Turkish as a first language, does that mean that they're not Turkish all of a sudden? Runningfridgesrule (talk) 22:36, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

lol probably. what is more weird is the genetic links. so the evidence suggest that Turkish people are a mix of Turkic people who migrated and mixed with the native Anatolian people? and when did they migrate? when did the Turkic language first appear in Anatolia?150.140.225.175 (talk) 02:17, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

protecting the page

Can we please protect this page to prevent edits from anonymous users. Recently the article has had alot of racist abuse. Turco85 (talk) 14:05, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

== note ==

hi folks it should be stated that we are all open to turkish ethnicity picture,but the points alwas should be contribution to country and diverse branches that is why ı REMOVE the last caliph (not sultan) vahidettin. and it is obvious that there is no reason to put three generals considering academic world ,fine arts,social sciences