Talk:2 Unlimited

Country of Origin

2 Unlimited were not a Belgian / Dutch band. They were a Dutch band consisting of Anita Dels and Ray Slijngaard until the producers, who owned the name 2 Unlimited, recruited Romy and Marjon to take over. Jean-Paul and Phil were no more members of the band than Pete Waterman is a member of Steps. Triangle e 18:02, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

YES THEY ARE... GET YOUR FACTS RIGHT.

well that was a well thought out argument. How do you protect a page on here? Triangle e 14:47, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

18 million records sold?

The article states that the 1st album "Get Ready!" has sold 2.6 million units, and the 2nd album "No Limits" has sold 3 million units. It is simply not logicial for the 3rd album "Real Things" and the their best of "Hits Unlimited" to have sold 12+ million units alltogether. I would not rely on a source of reference coming from 'Artist Direct as it isn't anything official. And as far the units of singles go they need to be stated separately as we all know singles are put out there to push the sales of albums. Harout72

I assume that the 18 million figure also includes the 16 singles. And early 90s dance acts do not use singles to push album sales. Most early 90s dance acts didn't even release albums. That's a late 90s - 00s pop / rock view on the single. Triangle e 10:23, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

"No Limit" (the single) alone sold 2.5 million copies so it sounds like a plausible figure. AcerBen 21:31, 8 August 2007 (BST)

Possible Good Article candidate

I think this article should be presented for a Good Article evaluation. However, one thing which should be worked on before that is the Trivia section. Such sections are generally frowned upon as this is material that had better been incorporated into the article text. __meco 17:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Why thank you for this suggestion! I'll see if I can work the material into the main text. Technohead1980 17:25, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

I've done it - and have improved the discography. AcerBen 23:26, 12 August 2007 (BST)

Quick look (not a specialist on the topic); and I think a lot is there towards getting GA, but also some things need to be improved before GA can be achieved.

• Referencing maybe problematic: The citation needed tags need to be solved; there are sections (towards the end) without any reference.
• Style and structure: A thorough copy-edit aimed at improving style and readability for the lay-reader is probably needed (for example the opening line of the article proper: "Jean-Paul DeCoster and Phil Wilde met in their hometown of Antwerp,[2] Belgium," makes no sense for someone who does not know anything yet. The introduction is too short (should be a three to four paragraph summary of the main points).
• Supporting material: There should be some graphic material, photos, album covers, concert tickets, concerts shoots, whatever to support this article. Be careful about copyright though.

I hope this helps, good luck Arnoutf 09:29, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Cheers for the pointers. We DID have album covers but they were removed due to being "not fair use". We also had a photo that was a screen cap from the Here I Go video, which we believe to be fair use but was deleted. Unfortunately, there seems to be NO sort of picture that the wikipedia admins are letting us use.

• Referencing is also a major problem. Unfortunately, wikipedia seems to frown on referencing from books and magazines. 2 Unlimited aren't covered enough on the net to reference using internet sources. I'm tempted to scan in some of the material I have in books and magazines and host them on a site like photobucket in order to use the info. Although for all I know, this might not be allowed either. Technohead1980 10:24, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I believe references from books and magazines are fully sufficient. However, as they are harder to come by for editor's checking to verify sourced claims, it is important that the citations be as complete as possible, including page numbers and also employing the "quote" field of the cite templates to show the full context of the cited claim. As for un-free images, I think that an argument centering on the fact that it would be impossible to obtain new, free photos of a dissolved ensemble, whether or not the individual members are all still alive, should be pursued. I would think such a rationale should stand a good chance of being accepted despite previous problems using photographs under the fair use doctrine. __meco 12:33, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

There is no problem citing books and magazines, if you do it carefully (actually it is preferred as Internet content changes); there is a strong preference for English language sources though.

Certain photos maybe fair use or public domain. But that is not my speciality. Wikipedia has to be very strict as this all free project can (obviously) not afford copyright law-suits; that is a thing you need to figure out with copyright protection specialists.Arnoutf 15:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:No Limit file.ogg

Image:No Limit file.ogg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.

Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.

If there is other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.

BetacommandBot (talk) 15:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Influential?

Let's get this straight... 2 Unlimited is supposed to have initialised hardcore (techno)? All the harder forms of electronic dancemusic mentioned developed way earlier than 1992. Got me a video at home (VHS) dating from 1991 showing large crowds bouncing to 180 bpm+ Ah well... check Wiki on 'gabber', and you'll find out... In this case I'd say L.A. Style's 'James Brown Is Dead' has been of much more influence on the hardcore/gabberscene Besides: The claim that 'with out them the music scene would be very different indeed' is ofcourse completely POV... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.159.97.4 (talk) 13:36, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Sales & Charts

Sorry??? Every album sold more than 20 Mio. copies??? Good joke! Furtheron they had never a top-10-hit in the US and No Limit is the only number one in France and UK! --85.181.136.136 (talk) 10:16, 27 December 2008 (UTC)