Talk:SoHo, Manhattan

SoHo

Who first called it SoHo??? Wshun

The mysterious faceless unnamed beggar fom Sullivan st. :)

I've convinced myself that SoHo is almost certainly a bacronym for a place named after London's Soho. Any etymologists want to pick up on this and investigate?

Whatever it is, saying that it is an acronym is stretching the term. Acronyms are formed from initial letters, not initial pairs of letters. It is more accurate to call it a blend (which is not the same as a portmanteau, incidentally) — it follows the pattern of "cyborg" given in the article for blend. — Paul G 11:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

By the way, I notice that TriBeCa is described as a syllabic abbreviation; I don't think however that this term is appropriate for "SoHo" becuase the components are not syllables of the source words. — Paul G 07:33, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Houston?

Is there a reason to its unusual pronunciation? Houston is the name of a major city as well, and it is pronounced like Hyoo-stin there. I lived there for years, then moved to New York only to hear this completely different pronunciation of what appears to be the same name.

The article on Houston Street mentions that it's actually the name of a person that died 10 years before Sam Houston was even born. Apparently the person's name was spelled differently and eventually was changed to the current spelling. The name, by the way, is William Houstoun. --Thesilence 21:30, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

A discussion of Houston's pronunciation is fair and might even be needed, but why delete it altogether? An editor deleted Houston's pronunciation by stating: "inappropriate for an article not about Houston Street". Though, being that "SoHo's name comes from its geographical location in the city - South of Houston Street. Designated a historic landmark district in 1973" SoHo's unique pronunciation is appropriate, needed and relevant! Farfallina123 08:45, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree. There is a much more relevant discussion of the pronunciation on the Houston Street page; it's repetitive to have it on every page that has the word Houston in the title. A link to the page is enough. It's not in the article about William Houstoun, nor is it in the NoHo article. If people really think that it's necessary to include it on this page, at least use the IPA pronunciation, ['haʊ.stən], along with the more correct English version, "HOW-stin" (vs. "HOUSE-tin"), and add it to the two articles about NoHo and Houstoun. 72.231.23.231 20:13, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Photographs of "Cobblestones"

This photograph does not show a cobblestoned street but one which is paved. Cobblestones are round, pavings are flat. I don't wish to edit as I am unsure if these streets were indeed cobblestoned at some time, but both the photgraphs and references to cobblestones may be incorrect. This mistake is made frequently on Wikipedia. Images of cobblestones can be seen

Greynolds999 (talk) 17:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes I agree. The caption is not technically correct to call those cobblestones. Related discussion: Talk:Cobblestone#Cobbles and Setts. Most people haven't heard of "setts" though. Maybe the caption should just say "stone" -- Harry Wood (talk) 23:48, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Requested move

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was no consensus. - Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 20:41, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

• SoHo → Soho, Manhattan

1. Per WP:NC(P) which recommends "adding a parethical (bracketed) disambiguator to the page name: for instance when both spellings are often or easily confused." In this case, only one letter separates SoHo from Soho, the London neighborhood.
2. Per WP:MOSCAPS: "For proper names and trademarks that are given in mixed or non-capitalization by their owners (such as k.d. lang, adidas and others), follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules." Press and common usage also follows this format. The target name format matches that of other neighborhoods with ambiguous names listed at Template:Manhattan.

Related move requests at Garment District, Manhattan, NoLIta, Manhattan, and TriBeCa. — AjaxSmack 00:44, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Survey

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• Oppose This form is actual usage, not advertising (for South of Houston Street. It is supported by the disambiguation from Soho in London. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 05:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Discussion

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Source for SoHo redevelopment history

There's an excellent book on the history of SoHo redevelopment and gentrification titled "Loft Living" by sociologist Sharon Zukin. I don't have time to hunt it down right now, but if somebody is itching to make the account on this page more accurate and interesting, that should be your source. DarwinPeacock (talk) 20:22, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

When was it named?

This article needs history added going back to the early development of Manhattan. What was SoHo in, say, 1738: farmland? A residential area? When did it acquire its name? Surely it doesn't predate London's Soho? I came here to find this out.

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