Talk:Coca-Cola

Spelling mistake

When it first talks about the cola leaf, it spells it "leave." The next sentence then uses the "leaf" spelling -- shawbin (talk) 15:53, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Advertising oops

On the caption of the picture of Hilda Clark, it says she is dressed in "formal 17th century attire". That's clearly 1800's wear, not 1600's wear, so the century should be changed to the 19th century. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.183.176.163 (talk) 16:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Well spotted. That piece of vandalism has been there unspotted since 7 December! Fixed now. (You wouldn't happen to know what decade's fashion that is? To my untutored eye it doesn't look like the 1890s, and it was probably intended to look a little old-fashioned.) -- Zsero (talk) 13:35, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

The article forgot to mention the company's involvement in the Vietnam war and the advertising techniques that were used. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aduncan89 (talk • contribs) 21:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

GA Sweeps (on hold)

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed.

• Multiple "citation needed" tags and a critism tag

I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GAR). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAN. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions, and many thanks for all the hard work that has gone into this article thus far. Regards, OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 06:58, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I am now failing this article as GA because concerns are not addressed. OhanaUnited^{Talk page} 18:15, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Bite the Wax Tadpole

The phrase "bite the wax tadpole" redirects to this article, but the phrase does not appear in the article itself. Can someone write a blurb on this? SkyDot (talk) 18:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

It's hard to know what to do with that. There probably was once something here about it, but it probably got deleted as trivia, which it certainly is. I'll try to work the fact into a paragraph that will be notable enough to stay in the article. Maybe next week some time. -- Zsero (talk) 22:50, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

An alternative would be to have "Bite the Wax Tadpole" become its own article instead of redirecting to this one. It doesn't need to be a very long article, but if it's too trivial to include in the main article on Coca Cola, then maybe that would be more appropriate. A third possibility is to write an article on notably bad translations of commercial slogans and the like. (I vaguely remember that that's what this phrase was. Recall that I was trying to look it up!) That article could include Nova and "brings your ancestors back from the grave" and such. SkyDot (talk) 01:44, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I think the editor shows there that he can't distinguish artwork from his own opionion what is artwork. Bad for wiki.. notjhing eles to say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.148.213.152 (talk) 15:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Huh? Which editor? What artwork? What opinion expressed where? SkyDot (talk) 19:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

http://www.flagadventure.com/ deleted

i am no expert here in wiki, but could someone answer me why: http://www.flagadventure.com/ was deleted from criticism? eldberg (talk) 06:31, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Because an art exhibit at some high school in Latvia isn't notable, even if you put up a web page about it. And the external site isn't even in English, so even if there was something notable there, it's of extremely limited utility to this encyclopaedia. Also not sure what the criticism was supposed to be. -- Zsero (talk) 06:40, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

1) Web page is in English (right upper side) 2) Only the exhibition is staged in high school (has nothing to do with an student project or so), was done by the artist to protest against Madalain Olbrites intervention in work of Latvian Health Ministry, who baned soft drinks from schools. 3) Criticism = the healthy of the product. (if it does destroy wool), put up a new section than. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.198.63.213 (talk) 08:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't care what excuse the artist gives for why he staged his exhibit in some obscure location; is there any reason the artist or his work is notable? If not, I'll assume the real reason it was in that location is because nowhere else would give him the time of day.

It's not in any way surprising or notable that if you soak fabric in an acid solution for several weeks it will be destroyed. You will find the same result with orange juice. Only an idiot concludes that this proves something about the safety of consuming it. The article already notes that claims exist about Coke's acidity being in some way unhealthy, and also notes that no evidence exists for this contention. -- Zsero (talk) 22:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Benzene

My complaint is the inclusion about benzene... The fda study was right but coke contains no sodioum benzoate. Only citrusy drinks such as mt dew contain it. seems like another misinformed "health nut" anti coke bit... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.200.64.163 (talk) 14:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Well, the article does say that the FDA found no cause for concern. And it did find benzoates (but not Vitamin C) in Diet Coke, so the potential for some sort of problem was half there... Still, you're right that this information belongs in the article on soft drinks, not on Coke. -- Zsero (talk) 14:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Request to remove "1st sponsor of olympics".

The statement mentioned above seems incorrect. The citation link is dead(additionally [this]and [|this] page makes no mention of the fact. ( also a quick search of the olympic website did not yield a suitable source. Additionally it contradicts the Oxo page. A quick google session has located the following possible sources for the oxo date.

[random book on books.google] [Company web page]

--91.108.106.119 (talk) 17:02, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Agreed, further evidence of Oxo below. Oxo was the first sponsor of the Olympics in 1908. Can the page be amended please? (Kentish 16 Dec 08) http://www.hastings-marathon.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=9:by-alexander-wilson —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.26.241.6 (talk) 08:04, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

The Coca Cola Red

I was taught that the Coca Cola Red was chosen by the Bauhaus painter and master of color, Josef Albers. Apparently, it took him 5 years to finally decide on a color, which still stands today, as opposed to Pepsi who have changed their colors multiple times.

However, I'm having trouble locating a source for this at the moment, can anyone confirm?

Mromaszewicz (talk) 04:58, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Request to remove

Underneath 21st Century is the following.

In April 2007, in Canada, the name "Coca-Cola Classic" was changed back to "Coca-Cola". The word "Classic" was removed because "New Coke" was no longer in production, eliminating the need to differentiate between the two.[24] The formula remained unchanged.

This is already mentioned under bottle design and such. There's no need to repeat information, no less under an incorrect category. 70.126.219.62 (talk) 17:41, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Cola

Debresser (talk) 07:06, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

In one of the first lines of the main article it says that Coca Cola is often refered to simply as "Coke". As a matter of fact in European Countries it is often refered to as "Cola". If anybody would like to work this information into the article...

Done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.83.162.175 (talk) 22:08, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

"Cola" and "Pop" are not synonymous of Coke, but rather of cola drinks (RC, Pepsi, etc.) and soft drinks in general (respectively). See Wikipedia's own entry for Cola, for example - or, for original research, just step into any restaurant in North America and ask for a cola - as well as any dictionary with a listing of pop and soda pop. It would be more accurate to say that "Coke" has become a synedoche for soft drinks (for example, http://popvssoda.com:2998/). All tigers are cats, but not all cats are tigers. Voideater (talk) 00:21, 5 November 2008 (UTC)

The FIFA - Coca Cola Trophy

Hi.

I share with you this video: It a spot about the FIFA U-20 World Cup in 1983 and you see the FIFA- Coca Coca Cola trophy [[1]]. Bicko2008 (talk) 20:39, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

NPOV!!!

Please clean up the first paragraph, it sounds like an ad! "Its dominating position"! PLease remember NPOV(neutral point of view)!99.224.132.115 (talk) 12:22, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Nutrition Facts

Please provide nutrition facts of various Coca Cola flavors. For example the Nutrition Facts for Coca-Cola classic is Serving size 8 fl oz (240mL) Calories 100 Total Fat 0g 0% Sodium 35mg 1% Total Carbohydrate 27g 9% Sugars 27g Protein 0g

Not a significant source of calories from fat, saturated fat, trans fat, cholesterol, dietary fiber, vitamin A, vitamin C, calcium and iron.

• Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.

Carbonated water, high fructose corn syrup, caramel color, phosphoric acid, natural flavors, caffeine

Caffeine content: 23 mg/8 fl oz Naristov (talk) 08:52, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Qibla Cola and Mecca Cola

There is mention of both Qibla Cola and Mecca Cola in the 'Local competitors' section where it states:

"Mecca Cola and Qibla Cola, in the Middle East, is a competitor to Coca-Cola."

Neither are Middle eastern in origin as Mecca Cola originates from France and was launched there. Although the Middle Eastern and south Asian market is a strong base for the brand, its business plan is to spread internationally the same as other brands. It is also very popular in Britain.

Qibla Cola is British in origin and founding and is distributed across Europe, North America and Asia, including Canada, Netherlands, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Turkey and Malaysia.

Therefore, neither are Middle Eastern in origin and neither have sole distribution in that region. It is therefore incorrect to suggest they are Middle Eastern because of their religious philanthropic leanings. They are both in fact European in the same way Coca-Cola is American.

82.36.44.192 (talk) 12:13, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Other drinks owned by Coke not mentioned

Barq's, Canada Dry, Dr. Pepper, Enviga, Fresca, Full Throttle, Mellow Yellow, Nos, Rockstar, Tab ..

It doesn't own Dr Pepper anymore. Plus this is not the page for the company, this is the page for the drink. Darrenhusted (talk) 11:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

It is my belief that it never did. I believe it was independent until it was purchased by Cadbury Schweppes.--Jeremy ( Blah blah...) 08:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

My Dr Pepper bottle said "Bottled under licence from The Coca Cola Company", it is moot anyway, this page is about the drink not the company. Darrenhusted (talk) 08:19, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Dr. Pepper and Canada Dry (Along with A&W and and Sunkist) are owned by the Dr. Pepper Snapple Group. While Dr. Pepper-Snapple has its own distribution network, some of their brands are too big for them to handle in numerous areas. In these areas, they just sell to Coke or Pepsi. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.188.227.101 (talk) 18:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Protecting the page

I've noticed from the edit logs that the page had been blanked twice - by the same person! Is there any way to protect the page to prevent anoms from this sort of mischief? Elwin Blaine Coldiron (talk) 00:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

You can ask for semiprotection at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection, but I would advise something more personal.Bettering the Wiki 04:30, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Vanilla Coke re-introduced where?

The table about different varieties notes Vanilla Coke was "re-introduced in 2007" due to popular demand but it doesn't say where. Is that in the US? The table itself notes it is still available in other markets. Can someone who knows update this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jbgreen (talk • contribs) 22:19, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Image from a retailer

The Coca-Cola caffeine can is the first image I have added and I had to copy, paste and change a few things from a Coca-Cola Cherry article as a few things I didn't quite get how to set out, so if anyone notices any problems here could they let me know and either I will change it or I could view the changes and learn from it! Hope I haven't done too bad and I can keep helping the community! Also I wanted to upload another Coke pic (Lemon) but it was from a website selling them, so what would the situation with that be? --WezGG (talk) 15:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Coke: A Cure for Cancer

Resent studieds preformed by Canadian scientists, theroize that Coca-Cola helps to prevent cancer. Debates are rising between the Coke and Pepsi companies about how marketing should countiue. With new Cancer-Cola Prevention method becoming more and more popular in Canada, Pepsi sales are drastically declining.

I have removed this article as it did not have any sources, and after reading the wiki on citing sources felt it was the best action.--WezGG (talk) 00:01, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Coca Cola & Scientology

I recently spoke somebody who is a Scientology member for about 20 years. He told me IBM en Coca-Cola are based on the Scientology Management System from Ron Hubbard. Does anybody know more about this part of Coca-Cola's history? Did they already use this system during WO-II? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.133.48.71 (talk) 09:31, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Sounds like rubbish to me. -- Zsero (talk) 11:03, 22 September 2008 (UTC)

Formatting strangeness

In the 5th paragraph under History, there's a bit where "concerted" is not followed by advertising campaign as in the code. Instead, that link is missing. Does anyone else see this? - Denimadept (talk) 16:35, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Wow, the link is missing here when I view the results! Does someone not like the text "advertising campaign"? Okay, it appears when it's not a link, but as a link, it disappears! - Denimadept (talk) 16:36, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

It shows up just fine. I think it's an issue with your browser. Maybe you've got it configured to block any link with "advertising" in its text, for fear that it might be spam. -- Zsero (talk) 20:13, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, it's worth a shot. I'll try IE instead... nope, does the same thing there. Maybe there's a filter somewhere between the server and me. I'll have to try it at home. - Denimadept (talk) 20:46, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Works fine at home on Firefox. Weird. - Denimadept (talk) 02:37, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Coca-Cola 200m

There is really a Coca-Cola 200m Event that is held annually. Why is this not a part of annual Sporting Sponsorship? 200m Video

(Hendrick4life (talk) 21:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC))

Please demonstrate its notability. We're not going to list every two-bit event in the world that gets a few bucks from Coca-Cola. -- Zsero (talk) 22:20, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Many Famous Runners have raced in this event, it also is held around the time of breast cancer awareness and Coke holds a huge event to support it. They do alot. Im not really understanding your question much. Its worth noticing (Hendrick4life (talk) 02:46, 8 October 2008 (UTC))

Show us some examples of notice it's attracted in major news sources, or something else that demonstrates its notability. You can start with what it's actually called. Not just "a 200m event". -- Zsero (talk) 03:36, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

Coke as spermicide

I think the fact that significant scientific work has been done on this question, and the researchers on both sides have come to public attention by being awarded the Ig Nobel prize, is a significant fact about Coca-Cola. No scientific conclusion is written in stone, and perhaps later work will find more evidence for rather than against the proposition, but this article should report the facts as we know them. -- Zsero (talk) 15:58, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

The Ig Noble Prize is for non-notable work. That's the point. - Denimadept (talk) 16:22, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Huh? Where are you getting that from? The Ig's standards of notability are different than those of the Nobel Committee, but the sort of work that wins the award is certainly notable.

Or we could go about this another way: The research showing that it is a spermicide is certainly notable, because it was noted. It was originally added to the article with several newspaper mentions. And the fact that that work won an Ig is a notable fact about it, if not about Coke itself. But it would not be good to leave it in there without balancing it with the contrary research, which may not have been noted by the press, but was by the Ig committee. -- Zsero (talk) 18:21, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Well, according to what I read at Ig Nobel Prize, I'm not so sure. - Denimadept (talk) 18:44, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Does that mean you don't object to my reinstating it? -- Zsero (talk) 19:48, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm not the one who originally removed it. Look, lots of things can kill sperm. That doesn't mean they're useful contraceptives. - Denimadept (talk) 20:13, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

I don't think even the original researchers suggested that it was particularly useful as a spermicide; it was surprising enough to find that it did seem to have spermicidal qualities. -- Zsero (talk) 21:06, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Dude, air is a spermicide. The only thing which isn't a likely spermicide is a woman, and even there I have doubts. - Denimadept (talk) 21:30, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

The original study, which has enough press mention that it's by definition notable, found that Coke was significantly more spermicidal than most things; enough that it was a surprising result. The subsequent study found that it was just a fluke. That's why both got the prize. Maybe a later and even better study will find that there is something to it after all. And this is a notable fact about Coke. -- Zsero (talk) 21:43, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

pH/Acidity

Does anybody have an authoritative figure for the acidity of Coca-Cola? Some sources online suggest 2.5-3.5, but I can't find anywhere terribly reliable (the higher seems more plausible). The article briefly mentions myths about coke being dangerously acidic, so this would be a useful addition to that section. Even Snopes doesn't have a figure, despite confidently claiming (without much evidence) that Coke isn't harmful[2] [3]. By comparison, the pH of saliva is around 6.3[4], and Wikipedia claims orange juice has a pH of around 3.5. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.41.11.134 (talk) 23:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

"more than 200 countries"

As far as I know, there are only 192 UN-recognized states, so I would just replace "in more than 200 countries" by "worldwide". 87.231.186.104 (talk) 00:36, 25 October 2008 (UTC)anonymous

What's the UN got to do with it? This page says "over 200 countries". It only lists 194 locations, not all of them countries, but it omits some countries, e.g. England and Scotland, where Coke is certainly available. -- Zsero (talk) 23:10, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Unless there's been a revolution when I wasn't looking, England and Scotland are both still part of the United Kingdom. 66.159.69.132 (talk) 17:24, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

So? They're still separate countries. -- Zsero (talk) 17:53, 30 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree Coca Cola is available in England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the United Kingdom. But it certainly doesn't mean it is available in "more than 4 countries" in this example, does it? The "over 200 countries" looks pretty much directly copy-pasted from the link you provided earlier and its main purpose is to put emphasis on the availability of the product. It's a very basic advertising process. Also, the link you provided, as you stated yourself, lists less than 200 countries, which contradicts its claim. I do believe the "more than 200 countries" claim qualifies as advertising. See WP:SOAP. 87.231.186.104 (talk) 20:02, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

It's a statement of fact, from a trustworthy source. Even if we had an exact number, I don't see how it would help the reader to know that the product is available in, say, 202 countries, rather than "more than 200". And that number would be subject to constant fiddling. So long as we have reason to believe "more than 200" is accurate, that's what we should say. Certainly any more precise number would need sourcing. -- Zsero (talk) 23:46, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Even "more than 200 countries" needs proper sourcing. The source you provided (which comes from the company itself, thus being hardly neutral) uses "more than 200" as a catchphrase rather than an informational estimate as it only cites 191 "countries" of which 1 is unrecognized, 3 are recognized as part of China, and 22 are overseas territories, let alone "Great Britain, Ireland, Northern Ireland" etc, so this is hardly "over 200 countries" in my book. I didn't mean to replace "more than 200" with a precise 200+ number as such a number can't exist unless you count some "countries" as separate entities. There are less than 200 countries in the world, and Coca Cola is not available in some of them. Let's call a spade a spade, "more than 200 countries" is false advertising. 87.231.186.104 (talk) 01:03, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Coca-cola is a reputable company, and is a reliable source for its own sales. It has no reason to lie, and this is not the sort of extraordinary claim that requires more solid sourcing. There are more than 200 countries in the world, and it's certainly possible for Coke to be sold in that many. If Coke were actually only sold in 195 countries, for instance, surely the company would say "nearly 200", instead of "more than 200". In any case, if you weren't suggesting a precise number, then what wording would you prefer? -- Zsero (talk) 01:36, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

"Worldwide" would be neat. As for the actual number of countries, yes it's closer to "nearly 200" but "more than 200" sounds better. The very source you provided lists less than 200 locations despite its title claiming "over 200 countries". Also, country is a weasel word and I think considering every single overseas territory a "country" is a poor excuse to make the number look bigger than it already is. 87.231.186.104 (talk) 02:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Coca-cola is also avalible in Cuba, though it is not imported from the U.S. due to embargo it is imported from Mexico. I purchaced many on my last visit. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beausw (talk • contribs) 18:42, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

New logo?

ZippyGoogle (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has been repeatedly changing the logo shown in the article. Do we have a reliable source that says that the beverage has a new logo? If anything, the logo Zippy uploaded is just in use at mycoke.com. —C.Fred (talk) 23:34, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

It says it at mycoke.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ZippyGoogle (talk • contribs) 23:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Where? I do not see a news release anywhere. —C.Fred (talk) 23:45, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Please, sign your posts. In my opinion, until I see it on an Coke bottle, the old logo should stay. Companies sometimes change their logos for a short period of time.SimonKSK 23:46, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

(ec) Further, the only place I see the "new logo" is in the context of "mycoke". When Coca-Cola appears, it is in the script text. Based on all that, the old logo should stay; I agree with SimonKSK on that point. —C.Fred (talk) 23:48, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

BTW, Zippy, you broke the 3 - revert rule. I'm gonna pretend that I didn't go to the history page and see those reverts.SimonKSK 23:49, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

If Coca-Cola had a new logo, it would be all over its press releases, tv ads, magazines, websites etc.. - Wikigi | talk to me | 08:41, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

Coca cola does have a new logo, the old logo used to have a drop shaddow with a silver swirl and yellow dots the new one is all white and red. http://cache.consumerist.com/assets/resources/2007/07/oldnewcoke.gif check out this picture, i am a collector and have pictures of both as well as other old stuff in my collection.Aryattack (talk) 08:11, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Well, I still don't see the logo on the bottles. I would know. I'm drinking one right now. §imon_K^S_K 22:39, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

new pictures

i am a collector and have pictures if anyone needs new ones. message meAryattack (talk) 08:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Current picture

The picture "U.S. containers in 2008" does not include the 1l and .5l bottles and the small 100 calorie can. It would be nice if someone could take a picture including them. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.122.249.252 (talk) 00:03, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Addition, please

Whoever edits this article I believe adding the world's first outdoor coca-cola advertisement located in Cartersville Georgia would be very informative. Also, if someone has a pic of it that would be good as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lupe678 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Have you got a source that says it's the world's first? —C.Fred (talk) 22:18, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, here they are. http://notatlanta.org/firstsign.html

http://web.georgia.org/net/content/go.aspx?s=55538.0.26.3011

Oh and if you want to see the official sign on the wall. http://www.waymarking.com/waymarks/WM2DK6 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lupe678 (talk • contribs) 07:59, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

No 355mL can

The current can size in Australia is 375mL, not 355mL as is stated in the paragraph regarding the new slim and tall can in the "The Coca-Cola "contour bottle" design" section.

150.101.206.3 (talk) 01:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)