Talk:Bernardo O'Higgins

On joining the revolutionaries in 1810

The objective of a government junta was to preserve the interests of the king Charles IV of Spain while was imprisioned by Napoleon on the Peninsular_War. That, at least is what's written in the minutes of such meeting. O'Higgins already an educated man saw this opportunity as a way of independence from Spain, which was confirmed later in 1814 on the "Reconquista"(reconquest) period, where Spanish troops were deployed in retaliation for this attempt to emancipate. --Jotaigna 01:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

King Ferdinand VII. By 1810 it was Ferdinand, a Napoleon "prisioner" in France, the rightful king of Spain.

Antarctic visionary?

Why is he described as an "Antarctic visionary" in Antarctic Peninsula? — Pekinensis 13:10, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

According the division of the world done during the Spanish colonization, the "Terra Australis Ignota" was part of the Spanish Empire (the Treaty of Tordesillas made and East-West division, setting as limits both poles).

Despite this declaration of sovereignity, the Empire never went that far south, being it most effective southermost colonies the the fort of Valdivia and the island of Chiloé (some attempt to found a city at the Strait of Magellan - City of Rey Felipe - tragically failed).

In fact - although the importance of Drake Passage and the Strait of Magellan - southern lands (Patagonia and southener territories) wasn considered as valuables territories, and wasn't occupied by Spaniards at all.

With the independence of Spanish America, the new nations (Argentina and Chile) tended to preserve the status quo about those lands. But Bernardo O'Higgins foresaw its potential and value and pursued the effective conquest of the Patagonia (and Antarctica). During it time as ruler of Chile, he organised some failed expeditions and after - during it exile in Peru - he frequently wrote to Chilean Presidents about the importance of occupy the South.

His last word was : "Magellan".

Chile and Argentina real occupation of Patagonia and the begining of their antartic projections - and territorial disputes -started during the 1860, 40 years after the indepence.

Baloo rch 03:51, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

Ok, but O'Higgins number 1 interest was Magellan strait, and not Antarctica. At that time, the strait was the only water passage between the Atlantic and the Pacific oceans. --Asepulveda (talk) 15:40, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

The playing card

Where is it from? To be honest I think its a little inappropriate.

Heh, I agree. It looks very out of place to me. Although most images are informative in some way, I think there are also priorities for the sort of material. -- — Northgrove 01:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I have just removed it--Andersmusician VOTE 05:36, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot 00:49, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

A number of errors that need to be corrected

First the leader of the Army that comes from Argentina was San Martin, not O’Higgins, I understand that was San Martin, this army was a part of a great scheme by San Martin, lo liberate Peru.

In this sense O’Higgins was not a commander together with San Martin . but serves under his leadership as supreme commander of the forces. (Please see San Martin page).

In the entire Chilean Campaign San Martin was the supreme commander of the forces.

And finally O’Higgins was not the second supreme leader of Chile, was the third, after San Martin, which was selected but submits his resignation. This permit to O’Higgins to take the post. (Again, see San martin Page)

Milton (talk) 10:21, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

• What does it say in the Spanish Wikipedia article? (I don't speak Spanish.) Phlegm Rooster (talk) 11:29, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Milton is correct. -- Alexf⁴² 12:08, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I am a O'Higgins biographer. All these commentaries are right, except the last one. San Martin was indeed proposed Supreme Leader by Santiago's cabildo after the Chacabuco battle that made the Spanish authorities flee the city; but San Martin refused the nomination. San Martin, therefore, was never in charge of the formal political power. --Asepulveda (talk) 15:45, 24 November 2008 (UTC)

The San Martin page says that O'Higgins and San Martin knew each other in Spain before the war. Is this true? If so this page should be changed to reflect that.Stewart king (talk) 17:59, 13 April 2009 (UTC)