Talk:Wolverhampton Wanderers F.C.

to be deleted

this is nonsense

They are, however, still consistently ranked in the all-time top four English teams since the league's inception in 1888, placed behind only Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal on popular website Football 365's all-time league table[2

They are not consistently ranked in the all in the all-time top four English teams since the league's inception in 1888.

The table sourced takes into account points in lower divisions outside the top division, so has no merit in ranking who are the best

why would anyone include this?

Irish Players

Something needs to be done about this, either it's integrated into the article or it is made clear that that particular piece of information is not wanted. Opinion anyone? - X201 19:04, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I have removed it because it is unsourced (and not true) and have left a warning message on the person who added its userpage, until it is added in with a source then I would say we keep removing it and report those who keep readding. Windy 00:04, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

hall of fame

Glenn Hoddle is one of the inductees to the hall of fame for 2007. Nominally, this is as a player, so does he get added to the list or not? The argument for yes is that he managed the club for (part of) 3 seasons, while the argument for no is that he did not play for Wolves and he was chosen as a player (the fact that he isn't popular is a separate issue). Paul haynes 13:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Liquidator "lyrics"

I have re-added the "lyrics" to The Liquidator, no explanation was given for their removal and they are key to allowing people with no knowledge of the club work out why the song was banned in the first place. I don't like having them there and they show the club and it's supporters in a bad light but they are needed to explain a fact and a small piece of the clubs history. - X201 08:37, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Carlos Kameni

According to national-football-teams.com played Nigerian keeper Carlos Kameni for Wolves during the 2003-04 season before signing for Espanyol for the start of the 2004-05 season. Does anyone know if that´s true? Sebisthlm 16:11, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to be so. There was a lot of hype about him possible signing on a years loan from Le Havre - [1] [2], he signed a loan contract [3], got his work permit application rejected for the first time [4] and the deal fell through when the appeal was rejected [5]. So in short, no. 86.21.74.40 16:33, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I think you'd heard of it if it actually was true. Thanks for quick response, btw! Sebisthlm 18:36, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

McCarthy Korea link

McCarthy is NOT leaving wolves - do not alter the article saying otherwise

official statement is here: http://www.wolves.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/0,,10307~1184022,00.html

Sinfony81 (talk) 17:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Academy/Under 18s squad

Is it really necessary to include this? I doubt it somehow. --RFBailey (talk) 21:42, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Naming Convention

There are a few mixed opinions about the naming convention for the Old First Division. Some users wish the Honours to be listed as 'Premiership and/or Old First Division Titles' or something similar. This would fall into line with other clubs wiki pages that follow this standard. Rather than get into a 'revert war' I thought I would post it here for discussion. Explain your feelings on the matter. My opinion is that we calla spade a spade and go for 'Premiership/Old First Division Titles' as they are the same thing. No reason to belittle the club rich history. Let our rivals do that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.22.23.10 (talk) 02:09, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

The title won was called Division 1. The club list it as Division 1 in the season ticket and on their website. Every other club in the country follows this convention as well. Wikipedia follows this convention. The Division 1 article is about Division 1 and not the Premiership. If we do as you suggest then we have to follow the logical conclusion and rename everything with it's modern name so the Honours section will look like this.

• Premiership/Old Division One Champions: 1953/54, 1957/58, 1958/59
• FA Cup Winners: 1893, 1908, 1949, 1960; runners-up: 1889, 1896, 1921, 1939
• Championship/Old Division Two Champions: 1931/32, 1976/77
• Championship/Division One Play-off Winners: 2003
• Division 1/Old Division Three Champions: 1988/89
• Division1/Old Division Three North Champions: 1923/24
• Division 2/Old Division Four Champions: 1987/88
• League Cup Winners: 1974, 1980
• Sherpa Van Trophy/Johnstone's Paint Trophy Winners: 1988
• Texaco Cup Winners: 1971
• UEFA Cup Runners-Up: 1971/72
• FA Community Shield Winners: 1949, 1954, 1959, 1960
• Football League War Cup Winners: 1942

It's a confusing mess - "Division2/Division4" - The individual links take the reader to the correct page that has the history of that competition on it. Also Division 1 and the Premiership are not the same thing. The Premiership/PremierLeague is a totally separate break-away league and cannot bee seen as a direct replacement for Division 1. Leave it as is. - X201 (talk) 22:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

Rivals

Removed Coventry City from the list as although Coventry might consider Wolves as rivals, Wolves fans don't feel the same way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.25.47 (talk) 23:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Intro Sentence

Maybe it is just common with British English but it just reads as if its odd. Does anyone else get the same reading it? Anything we can do about that? Hooper (talk) 00:36, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Hmmmm. Is this version better? --RFBailey (talk) 04:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

As a user of AmeriEnglish Bastardization my first instinct is to want to put a The before the club's name but I know it isn't actually like that. That may be what is throwing me off. This diff is more readable to me, but in all fairness, I think someone on the other side of the big lake should be the one to make the call as 9/10 people coming to this page are probally using European English and it may sound just fine to them. Hooper (talk) 16:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

As a rabid user of English English I took a look at a few other football club pages and they either are as per Wolves is now or as Wolves was before the recent edit. The use of 'is' rather than 'are' as in... xxx Club is a professional.... or xxx Club are a professional..... is a variable which may be worth playing around with, personally I like is . I think adding a The would not work but think bringing the word professional further up front does make ita bit awkward. For two exemplars of IMHO equally good footy club articles in the Championship using two variations on a theme look at Ipswich Town F.C. and Norwich City F.C. Methinks though I'd better get a back quickly to the real world!Tmol42 (talk) 16:30, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Pronouncing "Molineux"

Could someone help me know how is the name pronounced in this case? The usual (French) pronunciation of "Molineux" is with "oe", but I have been told that in the case of this specific place in Wolverhampton, it is pronounced "Molin YO". Thanks --Karpada (talk) 17:58, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

(NB. I am not a linguist)General pronunciation of it in England is as "Molli-new" or "Mollin-oo", but I can imagine that someone with a Black country/Birmingham accent would pronounce it as "Mollin-yo" from their propensity to change "You" sounds to "Yo" in common speech. Nanonic (talk) 18:31, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

You can hear the reporter using the standard pronunciation on this youtube video at around 1:30 and the narrator throughout this vid. For an example of the local accent have a listen to the clips from BBC - Voices - Wolverhampton. Nanonic (talk) 18:54, 17 December 2008 (UTC)