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Hello, Alchaemia, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

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July 2008

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.--Avala (talk) 12:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.--Avala (talk) 16:06, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't accept your threats of blocking. As far as I can tell you're not an administrator on the English wikipedia, and as such, have no authority to come here and parade your threats around. Take them elsewhere, and only use my talk page if you have something important to say. --alchaemia (talk) 13:57, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

heh

keep it up, see what happens. look up cody6 and read threough its history--Jakezing (talk) 14:25, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep what up? I didn't realize having a different opinion is grounds for banning. --alchaemia (talk) 14:38, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NO PERSONNAL ATTACKS--Jakezing (talk) 14:55, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Whom have I personally attacked? --alchaemia (talk) 15:26, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.--Avala (talk) 12:28, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you.--Avala (talk) 16:06, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

?? What rule have I broken and where? --alchaemia (talk) 21:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The warning appears to refer to an edit of alchaemia's at Talk:International reaction to the 2008 Kosovo declaration of independence on 11 July, saying "The guy's on a personal crusade against anyone that doesn't buy the 'Kosovo is the Heart of Serbia' wet dreams. Of course he's trying to score cheap shots." This was in a heated but essentially constructive debate where both sides were losing their cool. I would not consider this a blockable "NPA" violation in any way. The comment was indeed on the edits, not the editor, except for the "wet dreams" which could be seen as needlessly provocative. You could both be advised to take a deep breath, but you should also be commended for actually trying to carve out a constructive solution "with the enemy". If there are worse cases of insults, you are within your righ to ask to be presented with the relevant diffs so that it is clear on what grounds you are being warned or admonished. Also saves time for any reviewing admin. Warnings that do not provide any context or diffs are not helpful. dab (𒁳) 16:22, 15 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

August 2008

Please do not add defamatory content to Wikipedia. If you would like to experiment please use the sandbox. Thank you.--Avala (talk) 11:38, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop the libel. --alchaemia (talk) 11:57, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Funny. You are the one who called Republika Srpska - Republika Shumska which is obviously racist. I will be obliged to report your racist remarks if you continue with them.--Avala (talk) 12:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't know that Serbs formed a different race. Maybe you should read up a bit on what racism is. --alchaemia (talk) 13:16, 21 August 2008 (UTC) This user is a bastard( AND A STUPID ONE![reply]

OK so you think it's OK to insult Serbs just because they are not a different race? It's simply chauvinist.--Avala (talk) 14:30, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't "insult Serbs": I used a name for the so-called "Republika" Srpska that is meant to be an ironic name for a territory that doesn't represent any sort of 'Republic' as it likes to call itself. I care very little about their Independence or not, and if they are successful enough to be recognized by 46 states in ~6 months, for example, let them simply do it. But don't try to sell us the so-called "Republika" Srpska as some kind of international actor that will declare independence in case blah-blah-blah. Let them declare it, if they have the guts. --alchaemia (talk) 15:26, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

First of all it's not "so called" - Republika Srpska - it is the official recognized name. Second of all if the ICJ rules that independence can be declared why would they need guts to declare it? What are you talking about?--Avala (talk) 15:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Recognized by whom? Only BiH is recognized; not the so-called "Republika" Srpska. ICJ will not, in my opinion, rule any such thing. It will simply say that there is no clear policy one way or another, and that it is the decision of other states to recognize Kosova/o or not that matters, not some legalestic crap a la Kostunica. --alchaemia (talk) 19:31, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nobody is asking the ICJ about recognitions. They are asked on the legality of the Kosovo declaration. They can't tell states what to do but they can give opinion on issues like legality of this and that.--Avala (talk) 21:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If it's opinion is advisory and not binding, it's kind of like asking Bozo the Clown. --alchaemia (talk) 10:38, 22 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Swiss MFA

He was rejected after all though completely in line with diplomatic practice no reasons were stated.--Avala (talk) 20:46, 27 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sock puppetry

I did not report you to the admins. At the time I was getting harassed almost daily. The same guy would use different IPs to blank my talkpage and mindlessly revert my non-Kosovo edits. I was looking for the perpetrator and I was looking everywhere for him. He has been found. He is some random person from Germany. If he does it again then he will be banned. Sorry if I caused any hurt feelings by accusing you of anything. --Tocino 15:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are you talking about me?Max Mux (talk) 19:14, 3 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Help with editing SVG

Alchaemia, certainly. I replied with instructions (and a question) on my talk page, so others reading might have the benefit of continuity. Best wishes, --Mareklug ^talk 08:04, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Afghanistan–Kosovo relations

Hi! A user has nominated Afghanistan–Kosovo relations for deletion. Please feel free to explain your opinions. Go and see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Afghanistan–Kosovo relations. (Also there are 16 AfD nominations at the same page which includes Canada, Japan and several others) Thank you for your time! --Turkish Flame ^☎ 06:40, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Đakovica‎, Djakovica‎ or Gjakova

Hello Alchaemia. You mentioned that "[you failed] to see how "Đakovica" is in English." — Well, whether Đakovica‎ (or Djakovica‎) is an English name is a metter of opinion, but it is irrelevant for our purposes: our articles do not necessarily use English names, they follow "common English usage" instead.

The placenames we use in articles of the English-language Wikipedia are based on our general naming conventions and the specific ones for geographic names, using English & settlements. — Please, take the time to review them carefully.

In short, these policies and guidelines ask us to follow common English usage; that is, to use the same names the majority of English-language publications, books, magazines, news organizations, and even normal speakers use when referring to the subject in question.

There are three main reasons for choosing this common English usage approach over other possibilities (be it "local names", "official names" or "English names"):

First, because these are the names the greatest part of our intended readership of English speakers would most easily recognize, thus making our articles easier to understand and more predictable.
Remember also that the names of Wikipedia articles should be optimized for readers over editors, and for a general audience over specialists.
Second, because of all the problems that would derive from having to decide what the "local" or "official" name is. Who decides it ? What would an objective criterion be ? How fair or biased can such decisions be ?
Take some time to think about it, and you will understand that what may seem fair to you, would probably be extremely biased for others, and vice versa. It's basically the same problem that led to the idea of verifiability, not truth (in this case, common English usage, not "official or local one").
Third, because there are many different opinions on when a word or name is English and when not, on when it has entered the English language or remains "foreign". – English usage, on the other hand, is something entirely different and relatively easy to determine: what words or names are commonly used by English-language publications, irrespective of the word's or name's "Englishness" :-)

Regarding content, we restrict ourselves to reflect what our reliable sources state, and do not declare what the thruth is. — Well, in very much the same manner, Wikipedia is descriptive of English usage, not prescriptive of what names should English-speakers use. We do not declare what an English usage should be or will be, only what it currently is.

You also mentioned that "[w]ith a population consisting almost entirely of Albanians, it is prudent to use the local name for [the city] and not the Serbian one".

Not really. Our naming conventions consider that it is prudent to use the names the greatest part of our intended readership of English speakers would most easily recognize, not the ones the local population use. As an English-language encyclopedia, we prioritize a world-wide anglophone readership over the Albanian-speaking inhabitants of the city itself.

For the specific purposes of name usage in the English-language Wikipedia, the language and usages of the population of Kosovo, Serbia, Brazil or China are mostly irrelevant. Local usage only becomes important as a tie-breaker of sorts when there's no common English usage at all. This is not often the case of Kosovo-related articles, for there was a significant amount of English-language literature and printed material on it even before 1999, and there is much, much more since 1999.

For a number of historical reasons, the English language has adopted the Serbo-Croatian forms for Yugoslav place names. We merely restrict ourselves to reflect this usage. Wikipedia is not a venue to advocate the adoption of the Albanian names by the English language. – Again, bear in mind that Wikipedia is descriptive, not prescriptive. We cannot declare what an English usage should be or will be, only what it currently is.

Of course, I can imagine that Kosovo's declaration of independence may well induce a change in English usages, with the Serbo-Croatian names being phased out and the Albanian ones adopted. If/when that happens, the English-language Wikipedia should reflect that change, but not before.

The use of diacritics is a different matter: On this issue there is no agreement yet among Wikipedia editors, and thus no clearly established guidelines, with the issue being decided on a case by case basis.

Some editors think that diacritics should never be used, because they don't exist in what some call the "English alphabet" and because they cause some technical difficulties when doing web searches.
Others see diacritics as just another case where the core criterion of common English usage applies: diacritics should be used only if they constitute the usual, standard spelling in English-language publications.
And yet others (like me) think that, given the technical limitations of an "English alphabet" that doesn't have them, the use of diacritics by a minority of highly reliable sources is enough to justify it's use in Wikipedia as "a more perfectionist and educative way to display the name" (just as Britannica and the National Geographic Magazine do in the case of Priština).

But, as you can see, the issue is not clear-cut.

In any case, remember that the reason many of us have for using or not diacritics is not related to taking sides on a ethno-political conflict, but is based on our perception of how Wikipedia's readers are best served: as I mentioned before, I think that diacritics are "a more perfectionist and educative way to display a name".

For the purposes of an encyclopedic article, I prefer to use "Peć" over "Pec" and "Priština" over "Pristina" for the same reasons I prefer to use "Hashim Thaçi" over "Hashim Thaci", "çiftelia" over "ciftelia" and "Durrës" over "Durres".

In the specific case of Đakovica‎, if the "đ" letter (d with stroke) causes any problem, the norm is to replace it with "dj" – that is, Djakovica.

As a matter of fact, I have often thought about moving this article to Djakovica, but because I'm personally fine with Đakovica too I have always posponed doing it to avoid another political & ethnic match (as opposed to a rational discussion on what form would most English speakers encounter in English-language publications).

By the way, if you want to change the current naming conventions of the English Wikipedia, you're free to propose your desired modifications at the appropriate talk page (for example, at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions :-) However, while the current conventions remain in place, they should be respected: they are an official policy of the English-language Wikipedia.

I hope this long post helps to clarify the situation. If after carefully reading the naming conventions you still have any doubts on this topic, don't hesitate to ask me about it :-) To keep discussions coherent, I would appreciate if you could post any answer here, in your talk page, please. I will see your post :-) Regards, Ev (talk) 12:34, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please join us.

User_talk:Bosniak_Atheist

Note

Per WP:ARBMAC I am banning you from all Kosovo-related pages across all Wikipedia namespaces for a month due to recent edit-warring. This sanction will be enforced by block if necessary. Moreschi (talk) 22:29, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Where is that "edit-warring" so I can see it? --alchaemia (talk) 22:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, fine. Since you weren't listening, take a 55 hour block. As regards the original reason for the ban, see [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], and indeed most of your last contrib chunk. Moreschi (talk) 23:20, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted POV edits from a pro-Serbian editor trying to insert pro-Serbian propaganda into a well-written, functioning article. And you punish me for that? Awful judgment. Next time please provide some evidence when you ban me for a month and don't just disappear for days on end. --alchaemia (talk) 01:36, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

Alchaemia (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I would like this unexplained and unfair block be removed as it is wrong, for several reasons. First of all, I wasn't reverting something that was originally in the article; I reverted several POV edits made by an editor without any supporting evidence whatsoever. Secondly, I always gave valid reasons for reverting the article to a NPOV state and thirdly, I suggested that the editor in question take his/her POV claim elsewhere unless there are verifiable sources for it. Instead of being commended for staying neutral, I was banned from Wikipedia for "non-compliance" with a ban the reasons for which were never explained to me by Moreschi. If I'm banned, I'd at least like to see some reasons why I'm banned (coupled with evidence) and not just some blanket statement. Not to mention that the three-revert rule is, as its name suggests, enforced for THREE reverts while I'm being banned for reverting a POV statement only TWO times.

Decline reason:

You were banned from editing all Kosovo-related articles; while I applaud you for trying to do the right thing, you still broke the ban's restrictions, and were blocked for this. Understand that a ban means that absolutely no edits may be made to the pages the ban is applied to; if you see something that you disagree with discuss it with another user or bring it up with an administrator but do not edit yourself. I hope that answers your question! :) Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP! :)} 06:25, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Fine. Make that a week off for further non-compliance. This is not acceptable. The original ban was for edit-warring: just because you think you're right (and indeed I'm doubtless far more sympathetic to your edits than those of "God of Justice") does not give you the right to edit-war ad nauseam. That's not how Wikipedia works; there are other ways, either by exploring dispute resolution options or by getting admin intervention in the case of genuine disruption. Having been topic-banned, you simply have to stick with it for a month (and, FFS, it's only a month), and come back at the end of it senza edit-warring. Ok? I really don't want to get stuck in an escalating block cycle here. Please think about that over the next seven days. Plus, please calm down. A tone such as this never helps in any situation. Moreschi (talk) 20:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Moreschi, do you have it in for me or something? Where do you see that non-compliance? The ban expired and I promptly started to contribute, with sources, to Kosovo-related articles. I do not see anyone disputing my addition of the Irish ambassador to Kosovo. I'm not able to see where I have edit-warred after the expiration of your 55 hour ban. Or are you telling me that my 55 hour ban was not enough, so you're extending it to seven days now... based on the fact that you "banned" me for a month prior to banning me for 55 hours? A more confusing explanation I have not read in my life. It makes me not want to contribute here at all. I hope you're proud of your ban Moreschi. You've certainly rectified the situation - the wrong way. Also, don't use "FFS" with me as it makes your "arguments" about my tone and how it never helps looks deliciously ironic. --alchaemia (talk) 21:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, right. Ok, I see the problem here. You've got confused between a ban and a block. The original month-long topic-ban was not a technical thing. It was a sanction that said "No editing Kosovo articles for a month, but feel free to edit elsewhere". That expires on 11th December, OK? You ignored that, so I blocked you from editing the encyclopedia for 55 hours as ban enforcement, as when blocked you can't edit Kosovo articles. I did not block you until 11th December because I do want you to contribute elsewhere on Wikipedia. As I still do, so I am perfectly willing to unblock you now if you promise to stick by the original topic-ban from Kosovo articles until its expiry date (11th December). Clear? Moreschi (talk) 22:32, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I gotcha now. Yeah, OK, I won't edit Kosovo-related articles until 11 December. --alchaemia (talk) 22:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Unblocked. Sincere apologies for not getting to this earlier, I've had a really busy couple days. Moreschi (talk) 22:45, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

+ FYI, as this may be confusing, technically speaking, Kosovo-related talk pages should not be edited either (...across all Wikipedia namespaces...). Colchicum (talk) 23:11, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are user talk pages OK to edit? --alchaemia (talk) 23:21, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I guess yes. Colchicum (talk) 23:24, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article talk no. User talk is fine. Moreschi (talk) 23:38, 23 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo dip missions

Cheers mate. I thought Kosovo deserved to a dip missions article the same as every other country. Also it was too messy before. Hopefully Kosovo will expand its diplomatic network even more ;) Regards Ijanderson (talk) 13:37, 28 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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RE: Diplomatic missions of Kosovo

I noticed some of you recent edits about Kosovo opening Consulate–Generals in several countries. Have you got a source/ reference for that, not only because it would be useful for the article, but also because I'd personally like to read up on it as it an interest of mine, cheers. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 14:59, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ive found the ref now haha. You created this map [7], all UK and French oversea territories are on it, but I could see that some US oversea territories are not, such as Hawaii and Puerto Rico. Maybe you could fix that please, as I am useless at editing SVG images. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 15:12, 7 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cheers for that Inkscape thing. Ive downloaded it, but I'm finding it a little bit confusing haha. I'm sure I'll find out how to use it. Cheers mate anyway. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 00:52, 8 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Military of Kosovo

This article needs major edits and updates (especially with the launch of the KSF), I was wondering if you could help? Also I was wondering if you could help create Sylejman Selimi with me too. Regards Ijanderson (talk) 19:40, 21 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Passport article

Add the sources to that article or I will report you for removing maintenance templates. It's not my problem that you made an article based on your personal ideas, not reality. And please learn the difference between de jure and de facto, next time you add the map with caption "de jure recognition" that has de facto recognition listed. De facto recognition is unverifiable original research anyway.--Avala (talk) 11:17, 4 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, Wikipedia made those tags on the request of the Serbian Govt. Now this is getting hilarious. Either you have verifiable references or you don't. If you don't, we have tags for such circumstances. And you say "I did not add the map, so why don't you learn how to read the edit logs before going out on a rampage." - diff. Do you really think I am dumb? That I don't see it says Alchaemia who added the map. And again learn the differnce between de jure and de facto! Here I'll give you links again because you apparently only skim through what I write and I really want you to find out about what is de jure and de facto, yes de jure and de facto.--Avala (talk) 10:46, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovan passport

Hi. I am a little concerned with the tone and apparent constant reverting on this article between you and User:Avala. I am posting this on both your talkpages. Please have a look at the WP:EDITWAR policy. Since you are in such disagreement with each other, it will probably be a better idea to follow the advice on that page, e.g. getting a third opinion or starting a request for comments. Thanks. Please note that I am not picking sides as I have no idea what is correct and what is not. -Lilac Soul ^{(talk • contribs • count)} ^{• I'm watching this page so just reply to me right here!} 18:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

my two cents

Well here is a [link]. I suggest you become [informed]. Serbs are fighting for Kosovo because of the fact that we are the only country in the Yugoslavia who protested the Nazi regime. Check out Serbophobia and how much Nazis hated us because of our resistance to Nazism. Today, German is a powerful country and its people are not pro-Nazis by a large margin. Yet its Germans political elite, who are the deciders. Look at, Hans-Dietrich Genscher. Albanians from Kosovo are getting rewarded for the help they provided to the Nazis. Remember this fact. How much aid did we sent to Kosovo Albanians during the Communist Yugoslavia? also, wasnt Milosevic a dictator who rounded up Serbs, imprison them, and sent them to fight in Croatia against their will. Who oppressed his people, both Albanian and Serb. instead of combining the Albanian majority in Kosovo with Serbian majority in the northern part of Serbia, so that we can unite in our fight for our economic, political and liberal development you are fighting to separate the lands where our 1000 year old monasteries are located. Remember this if Serbs and Albanians from Kosovo unite in a political sense, there would be no stopping us.Serbian Defense Forces (talk) 03:49, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please see the first two links provided above. Seems like you dissagee with the situation described above. Doesn't really matter. Serbs were the first, in 1997, to describe the immorality of the American foreign policy. Now, in 2009 the world is starting to understand us. I guess you can call my statements propaganda but it seems to me that I'm developing a vision and some people are stuck 12 years behind. Once again, the links are provided above. Enjoy.Serbian Defense Forces (talk) 05:28, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SVG Map

Hello mate. Today Kosovo opened several embassies, so I've updated the article Diplomatic missions of Kosovo accordingly. I was wondering if you would update the map which goes with the article. Cheers, regards Ijanderson (talk) 13:41, 11 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Passport recognition map

Alchaemia, please can you add Solomon Islands to the Kosovo Passport Recognition map (see the reference in the article). Also Hawaii and Puerto Rico need to be added as part of the US. Many thanks, Bazonka (talk) 18:02, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Bazonka (talk) 19:47, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No sorry, don't know about that. I think you need to add some sort of tag to the image, but it's not something I've done before. Perhaps you could have a look at some other svg images to look for differences? Just guessing! Bazonka (talk) 19:57, 27 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I noticed that your image at File:Kosovopassportrecognition.svg was missing copyright info. Since it's an image that you created yourself, you'll need to place a tag on the page to show which license you're releasing it under. From the description, I'm guessing that you wanted to use the GNU Free Documentation License - if so, all you need to do is place the template {{GFDL-self}} on the image's description page. If you intended on using a different license, then you can use the corresponding template from the page at Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags/Free_licenses. Radiant chains (talk) 05:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kosovo independence precedent

I saw you added a {{pov}} tag to this article, with a rather vague comment on "a province of Serbia". I have tried to make the article as neutral as possible, and am not sure what more to do. At the time of the declaration of independence, Kosovo was a province of Serbia under transitional UN administration (UNMIK). I think this is factual. I have added the word "then" to make it clear "province" describes the status at that time. What other bias do you find in the article? Obviously, you may disagree with some of the opinions quoted, but they are clearly identified as opinions, and the citations show that these opinions were expressed. Perhaps you could summarize where you feel the article is biased in its talk page. Otherwise, we just have a statement "I don't think it is neutral" with no clue about what the problem is and what should be fixed. Thanks, Aymatth2 (talk) 12:15, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't see how can you say that "The dispute is clearly between the RoK and Serbia" when the case itself is called "Accordance with International Law of the Unilateral Declaration of Independence by the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government of Kosovo (Request for Advisory Opinion)" by the ICJ? They could have called it Republic of Kosovo legality but they didn't so don't introduce these deliberate errors. And don't put dubious template and fact template to something that has a reference.--Avala (talk) 14:34, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure. Not that I wrote any of that but that newbie user but it doesn't stop you from spilling the load of insults at me.--Avala (talk) 14:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

AfD nomination of Kosovo – Panama relations

Hi! Kosovo – Panama relations has been nominated for deletion. Please feel free to explain your opinions. Go and see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kosovo – Panama relations. Thank you for your time! --Turkish Flame ^☎ 17:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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 I don't see how can you say that "The dispute is clearly between the RoK and Serbia" when the case itself is called "Accordance with International Law of the Unilateral Declaration of Independence by the '''Provisional Institutions of Self-Government of Kosovo''' (Request for Advisory Opinion)" by the ICJ? They could have called it Republic of Kosovo legality but they didn't so don't introduce these deliberate errors. And don't put dubious template and fact template to something that has a reference.--[[User:Avala|Avala]] ([[User talk:Avala|talk]]) 14:34, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 :Sure. Not that I wrote any of that but that newbie user but it doesn't stop you from spilling the load of insults at me.--[[User:Avala|Avala]] ([[User talk:Avala|talk]]) 14:53, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
+== AfD nomination of Kosovo – Panama relations ==
+Hi! [[Kosovo – Panama relations]] has been nominated for [[Wikipedia:Deletion policy|deletion]]. Please feel free to explain your opinions. Go and see [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kosovo – Panama relations]]. Thank you for your time! --<span style="border: 2px black solid; background-color: black;">[[User:Turkish Flame|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="lime">'''Turkish Flame'''</font>]] [[User talk:Turkish Flame|<font face="Comic Sans MS" color="lime"><sup><u>☎</u></sup></font>]]</span> 17:37, 4 May 2009 (UTC)