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Sarandioti if u r righ, this means that on the same basis Greek names should be added in a number of modern Albanian cities in which Greeks lived ones. Well, I believe the Jicerek line leaves only Shkodra outside the Greek-speaking zone. [[User:Alexikoua|Alexikoua]] ([[User talk:Alexikoua|talk]]) 22:42, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
Sarandioti if u r righ, this means that on the same basis Greek names should be added in a number of modern Albanian cities in which Greeks lived ones. Well, I believe the Jicerek line leaves only Shkodra outside the Greek-speaking zone. [[User:Alexikoua|Alexikoua]] ([[User talk:Alexikoua|talk]]) 22:42, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

I think you did not understand what I said, I suggested that the Albanian names should be added as these areas were part of the Albanian principalities and the Cameria region. As for your comments there is a complete difference between nationality/usage of language/religion. I believe I am clear. Best Regards.


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Pershendetje patriot, si e kam Saranden?Balkanian`s word (talk) 10:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shume mire eshte Saranda vella faleminderit. Ti si je? Shkon mire zhvillimi i Wikipedias Shqiptare?--Sarandioti (talk) 10:25, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Lere mos e pyet, shume pak veta dhe shumica prej nesh nuk kemi kohe :-). Duhet te njihemi edhe une nga sr jam.Balkanian`s word (talk) 11:18, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Msn ke vella? Te flasim per disa ceshtje, dhe zhvillimin e wikipedias Shqiptare. Po ke me dergo e-mail.--Sarandioti (talk) 11:48, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kam me jep adresen tende te te bej add.Balkanian`s word (talk) 12:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kam te "hapur" setting qe jep mundesine te me dergojne email. Ma dergo msn-in tend me email. Ketu e shikojne shume, prandaj spo e ve--Sarandioti (talk) 13:07, 29 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Shih

Ej, hidhi nje sy kesaj. Kam shume kohe qe po e pergatis, po nuk e kam mbaruar akoma.Balkanian`s word (talk) 15:36, 1 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Azis Tahir Ajdonati

Hi, have you some english speaking book/source that mentions him (the same with Jakup Veseli)?Alexikoua (talk) 10:56, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]


The particular reference is one of the most reliable on certain issues. However, even if we didnt have a source, it is clear that he is from Paramythia. Check his surname, it is Ajdonati, he took it from the Albanian name of Paramythia. Have a nice day.--Sarandioti (talk) 11:10, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

You are relying on a 19th century work (1861), there was an consensus about outdated sources. Kountouriotis was Arvanite, according to more reliable sources mentioned on the Arvanites article. Alexikoua (talk) 11:24, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kountrouriotis was indeed an Arvanite, which is NOT mentioned in the article. For the time being do not revert anything. I'll find a more "approriate" means to include that he was arvanite --Sarandioti (talk) 11:28, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

you have rendered the article unreadable, no problem with the unreferenced setences. i added the Despotate's foundation+ deleted Aidonati. Would be interested if he is mentioned in a english speaking source. Alexikoua (talk) 11:38, 2 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

why dont u give an inline? that's why i deleted your uncomfirmed claim, seems you always are not used to cooperate. If u mean this language was spoken by a (uncomfirmed) number of inhabitants that lived in the area, its a clear pov pushing and doesn't need to be mentioned on the template. In that region lived or passed also: Italian, Latin, Vlach, Bulgarian, Serbian, Arabian, Turkish, French, Aromanian speakers.Alexikoua (talk) 09:41, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The Albanians were one of the main groups living in epirus, my source is totally valid. You have no right to remove it. I see no POV here, as Albanians were a main group of the area.--Sarandioti (talk) 09:53, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why dont u relax? The stuff you are reading is brain damaging you, be carefull. Alexikoua (talk) 20:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Preveza, Arta

To add the Albanian name of a town in the lead, there have to be native speakers of the language linving there. That is not the case in Arta and Preveza, so please stop this nonsense. WP:NCGN is crystal-clear in this case. Your reference is a medieval history book, which is irrelevant and proves nothing. --Athenean (talk) 21:44, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cham Albanians lived even in those areas, so the same rules that apply to Paramythia, Margariti, Philiates etc. apply to them --Sarandioti (talk) 21:47, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, they didn't. You don't have a reference for that anyway, and Chams don't live there now. The only reason I agreed to leave the Albanian name in the lead for Igoumenitsa is because there is a reference that mentions that Albanian speakers still live there now. This is not the case for Preveza, and certainyl not Arta. --Athenean (talk) 21:48, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As I said same rules that apply to Margariti, Igoumenitsa, Philiates, Paramythia aply to Arta, Preveza, Janina. Would you like the issue to be moderated by a third party? --Sarandioti (talk) 21:51, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There were never large numbers of Chams in Preveza, Arta, and Ioannina. Repeating yourself over and over won't help. If we go by your logic, we should also add the Greek name in Korytsa, Vlore, Durres, etc... These articles were perfectly stable before you came in. --Athenean (talk) 21:57, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sarandioti if u r righ, this means that on the same basis Greek names should be added in a number of modern Albanian cities in which Greeks lived ones. Well, I believe the Jicerek line leaves only Shkodra outside the Greek-speaking zone. Alexikoua (talk) 22:42, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think you did not understand what I said, I suggested that the Albanian names should be added as these areas were part of the Albanian principalities and the Cameria region. As for your comments there is a complete difference between nationality/usage of language/religion. I believe I am clear. Best Regards.

Lale

Si te kam Saranda ;)? Digjo shiko mos mblidhemi njehere ketu [1] Mos bejme ndonje gje te hajrit,nejse flasim.--Taulant23 (talk) 21:55, 5 June 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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