Talk:Blue screen of death: Difference between revisions
I Feel Tired (talk | contribs) →Useless: fixing post, my signature was messed up but I fixed it |
→Memory Dump?: new section |
||
Line 251: | Line 251: | ||
== Most commonly MS Win NPOV == |
== Most commonly MS Win NPOV == |
||
The article says "displayed by some operating systems, most notably Microsoft Windows", and while I know this to be true, I don't think it needs to be included in an encyclopedic article. I feel that despite the obvious truth to it, it doesn't follow [[Wikipedia:NPOV|NPOV]]. Does anyone agree with me? --[[User:Sauronjim|Sauronjim]] ([[User talk:Sauronjim|talk]]) 15:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC) |
The article says "displayed by some operating systems, most notably Microsoft Windows", and while I know this to be true, I don't think it needs to be included in an encyclopedic article. I feel that despite the obvious truth to it, it doesn't follow [[Wikipedia:NPOV|NPOV]]. Does anyone agree with me? --[[User:Sauronjim|Sauronjim]] ([[User talk:Sauronjim|talk]]) 15:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC) |
||
== Memory Dump? == |
|||
On certain occasions while running some games, my computer suddenly pulls up a blue screen that says memory dump or something, then shuts down on its own. Does anyone else encounter this? This might me a good addition to the article. [[Special:Contributions/66.108.226.201|66.108.226.201]] ([[User talk:66.108.226.201|talk]]) 19:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC) |
Revision as of 19:40, 10 August 2009
This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the Blue screen of death article. This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject. |
Article policies
|
Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL |
Archives: 1, 2, 3 |
Computing Unassessed | ||||||||||
|
Blue screen of death is a former featured article candidate. Please view the links under Article milestones below to see why the nomination was archived. For older candidates, please check the archive. | ||||||||||
|
This article has been mentioned by a media organization:
|
This article may be too technical for most readers to understand. |
Wii Black Screen of Death
On the 31st, I saw a Black screen of death on the nintendo Wii It wasn't serious, but the wii system made weird noises when I botted it up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.46.20 (talk) 06:33, February 1, 2007
Emily Dickinson
Did Emily Dickinson prophesy the BSOD? See for yourself. The last stanza of her poem "I heard a Fly buzz when I died": "With Blue--uncertain stumbling Buzz-- Between the light--and me-- And then the Windows failed--and then I could not see to see--" --Xparasite9 02:35, 19 March 2007 (UTC) O_O That is....weird....I don't know.Shindo9Hikaru 02:35, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
- Eerie. It could be that some of her other writing holds portent of things to come. -- some dude.
Replication of Win 98 RSOD
This page has been very helpful in my personal PC reference archive. Using a picture linked to earlier and the windows 98 BSOD, i recreated the Win-98 RSOD. Sorry of it is a bit sketchy, all i have to work with is MSPAINT. http://www.maj.com/gallery/toast-of-demise/Other77/win98rsodrecreationv2.bmp
WinVista RSOD
I think the article is wrong about RSOD removed from Vista. I got it once with the final build because my bootloader got corrupted. -- (cncxbox) 00:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
PS3 "Blue Screen"
Anyone actually read the article? This definatly isnt an example of a BSoD, its just the PS3 dev kit crashing while displaying blue water. Even the article says its not a BSoD. Im going to remove it, hope that doesnt annoy anyone, doesnt seem to serious to drop. John.n-irl 15:06, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Is it really called a Blue Screen of Death?
Just a question, i'll probably take this off the talk page after I read the answer.
Is it actually called a Blue Screen of Death? it doesn't sound very professional, or even standard. It sounds pretty ridiculous, just as if a child would say "spinning blades of doom". Not saying that only children say that phrase, but it doesn't sound like something an adult would say. usually, phrases that end in "of doom" or "of death" or something usually make me think of cartoons or video games. Mabye thats just me, mabye i'm wrong, mabye it is the actual name of the blue screen. But hey, no harm in asking, right?....right? 24.15.53.225 21:35, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
- Blue Screen of Death is more of a slang term used by computer people. I believe that when you get the BSOD it is called a fatal error, but it's been so long since I've gotten one that I forget--Cadet hastings 14:03, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- If it is actually called a "fatal error" (which would make sense, as it is literally a fatal error) then shouldn't the article mention that it is so? Wikipedia is kind of about telling the real names of things and briefly mentioning the slang, instead of referring to things as the slang and mentioning it in it's proper form. And in this case, there is no mention of it at all. I wouldn't have asked the question if I had found something in the article that told me it's actual name is fatal error. and once again it also makes wikipedia sound more professional if it uses it's actual name--for now, blue screen of death is fine as long as someone mentions it's actual name is a fatal error, but a real encyclopedia would actually have the title of the page "fatal error" 24.15.53.225 20:47, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- A fatal error is a bit of a vague term which can be used for a range of error messages. Blue Screen of Death is the most widely used term to describe it (see here, even Microsoft MCSEs use it) but the official name for at least the Windows NT-based BSODs is a "Windows Stop Error" or a variant thereof. -- Will 23:40, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, BSOD is slang. The official term is a "STOP" error, but even some of Microsoft's own documentation uses "Blue Screen Of Death" Manys (talk) 21:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
in some old programing languages there are commande ie .die ( prolog or DOS i cant remember of the top of my head)
THATS THE JOKE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.188.17.249 (talk) 05:31, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
The main reason people continue to refer to it as blue screen of death and not a stop error is the fact that when it usually happens to you it feels like a fate worse than death. It explains exactly how the user feels when they see it in front of them!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.249.216.93 (talk) 08:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
It is acctually called a Stop Error by Microsoft but people call it the Blue Screen of Death cause whan you never saw it before and suddenly it appears infront of them it scared them to death! (That acctually happened to me at midnight while saving my webs.com site) ANd alot of times this screen may nearly 'kill' the computer! I just use the term BSOD beacuse it siunds cool!lol! Computer tech0001 (talk) 19:55, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
yes it is a stop error, and yes it is mainlly called "blue screen of death" i still think the artical should use the proper name and "bsod" should redirect here Jalex3 (talk) 13:52, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
How to get the number on the blue screen of death
My laptop randomly has it occur and it's for a split second then it goes black and restarts itself. Should I sit with a camera next to me and hope I get it? Or what? Also, I archived the talk page...it was way too long. Bsroiaadn 03:15, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- I read the article and it mentioned a kernel debugger. I've looked online, but I haven't found much..and the stuff I have found isn't explained very well. I'm not gonna lie, I don't know much about DOS or .ddl's or any of that. Is there any website that will easily explain it in a way I could understand or maybe if someone here could help me out? Or maybe even an application that could do all the work for me? Bsroiaadn 03:52, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- Also, not sure how I neglected to mention this. I have Windows XP Media Center Edition on my laptop. I did the winver check and this is the exact version "Microsoft Windows Version 5.1 (Build 2600.xpsp_sp2_qfe.070227-2300 : Service Pack 2)" just incase it's needed to get that specific. I have an HP laptop, don't remember the exact model name right now...but I'm not sure if that's very important. Bsroiaadn 04:29, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
- This is a problem that most users of Windows XP Professional have. If you don't have XP Professional, there is something wrong with your computer. However, if you do have Professional, try this.
- 1. Click Start > Run and type C:\WINDOWS\system32\sysdm.cpl
- 2. Click OK
- 3. In the dialog that follows, click the Advanced tab
- 4. Under the section titled Startup and Recovery, click Settings
- 5. Under the section titled System Failure, uncheck Automatically restart
- 6. Click OK
- 7. Click OK again
- 8. Restart your computer
- Every BSoD should now appear and allow you to collect the error information.
- NOTE: These steps may not work on previous versions of Windows, but it wouldn't hurt to give it a try!
- --FastLizard4 (Talk|Contribs) 04:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
It does work on all versions of Windows XP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GT4GTR (talk • contribs) 00:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
The correct way would be to press F8 before the XP splash screen appears and select "disable automatic restart" - ManicD —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.202.44 (talk) 15:46, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
BSOD still exist in Vista
Blue Screen of Death still persist in released versions of vista as I encountered this problem numerous times after installing fresh copy and a upgrade copy AbsoluteMSTR 05:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
- You might be looking at this wrong -- Blue Screen of Death is a FEAURE included standard with all versions of MS Vista. It is proprietary and protected by copyright, user-friendly and no other operating system yet has it!! =-) -me
Yeah, I got the BSOD after one month and I was watching a video on youtube and opened iTunes, then I got the BSOD. User:Patrolman89
I got it about 10 minutes after i first turned it on, vista rules dont it (that is sarcasim) 75.36.231.146 (talk) 06:01, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Yep, it does. I got it last night, probably from having way too much stuff running at once. This article needs some work about BSoD in Vista. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.27.130 (talk) 22:25, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
I just got a BSoD after installing Vista SP1 from Windows Update. I can't access to anything! Can someone help me? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.178.200.52 (talk) 04:16, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
RSOD
When it mentions that RSOD's occured rarely in 98 and Memphsis, isnt that kind of repeating its self as Memphsis was the codename for 97 wich was renamed 98.
Robotboy2008 09:22, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
BSoD on futuristic toaster
I feel that that picture is a joke. There are two reasons:
1. Why would a "futuristic" toaster display a BSoD from Windows 98?
2. Why would a toaster have a screen in the first place?
And it is obviously a joke, which doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article.
--FastLizard4 (Talk|Contribs) 18:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Windows XP BSoD
Shouldn't there be a screen shot of a BSoD occurring in Windows XP? It seems we've got every single one (even Vista's RSoD and Windows CE's BSoD), but we don't have one from the Windows operating system most in use today: Windows XP. I would upload one, but I don't have any good ones (the "Print Screen" key doesn't work when your computer crashes, and my camera isn't good at taking screen shots).
--FastLizard4 (Talk|Contribs) 05:10, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
- I had done this earlier but I saw that it was reverted. Adding again. rohith 21:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
Pictures
I think that it is wonderful that we have all the pictures, but for me using either Firefox 2 or IE 7, there are massive amounts of space between the text. Removing some of the pictures fixes this problem, but it feels more like a work-around than a solution. Is there a solution? --Nick2253
- I think the pictures are too much. At the resolution they display on the page, the screenshots of BSODs for various operating systems all look similar. They are redundant and make the page look cluttered. Unless there is something very special about each one that would be lost if the image were gone, I think the page could stand to go down to one or two BSOD screenshots.
- The large number of pictures close together also makes the article look bad. It may be helpful to align some of the images on the left instead of having them all on the right to obtain a more balanced look. Additionally, most have migrated to where they aren't even near to the text they are relevant to at the resolution I am viewing in (1680x1050.)
- Finally, a large majority of the copyrighted screenshots do not have a fair-use rationale for this page as required by WP:FU and are thus subject to removal from the page if such rationale is not provided. Infernal Inferno 21:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
How do people take screen shots of the BSOD anyway? What capture utility works when your computer is crashed? 24.23.212.36 07:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- You need to use a video capture card that can receive VGA, or otherwise use a virtual machine. --Sigma 7 07:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
It's easier just to use a camera. [1] --Randomuser42 (talk) 16:25, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
I think that you just download the fake BSOD and capture the fake screen, the fake blue screen will be a screen saver. It should work. Computer tech0001 (talk) 22:48, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
BSOD or BSoD
I think that the article should use one form, but seeing as the term is used both ways in the article, I'm not sure which way we should go --Nick2253
- I don't think it really matters. tomato or Tomato. What's the difference? Not much. Ginbot86 (talk) 07:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Citation needed tag on the 98 demo BSOD section
Is that really needed? I mean come on, your new flagship consumer OS is being demonstrated to the world press and the very first thing you try and show off, the system bluescreens. Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious there was some major egg/face interaction for Microsoft there. --Flapjackboy 23:54, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
how to fix it
shouldn't it be included how to fix the blue screen of death
i just think that it could be pretty useful.--Dlo2012 (talk) 03:20, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
- There isn't just one solution that will fix any blue screen of death. If you search for the error message on the internet, you will come across many solutions that way. Entbark (talk) 14:46, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Sure, and maybe someone could update the Internet page with information on why my connection is slow. Manys (talk) 21:30, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
It says to press any key. Yeah, that seems self-explaning. 99.230.152.143 (talk) 02:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
Would this help? I'm determined to make a useful contribution.
Took this in Windows 3.1 Using MS Virtual PC 2007 3.1 BSOD W/ No malfunctioning program Maiq the liar (talk) 01:29, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
- Windows 3.1 and MS-DOS terminated for you? Weird. I'm not sure if you should put this up yet, as I don't know how many other people got this error. - PGSONIC (talk) 19:03, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
No, i just pressed Control+alt+delete in the VM when nothing was wrong. it's the friendliest BSOD i've seen... Maiq the liar (talk) 23:38, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
Xbox 360 RRoD picture?
Why is there a picture of the Xbox 360 "Red Ring of Death" in the article when that particular phenomenon isn't even mentioned in the article?70.236.32.155 (talk) 18:58, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Removed picture. Entbark (talk) 14:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
Microsoft's most successful program
That isn't mentioned in this article, it should be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.132.142.233 (talk) 16:58, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
"EGA" colors
Might be nitpicking.... but I've changed all mentions of "EGA" colors in the Display section to say "CGA" instead - the 16 colors come from the CGA, as can be seen in the CGA color palette, and that's where their hex numbering originated. The EGA has a default palette of 16 colors (out of 64) that were set up to match the CGA ones, but the actual EGA color table is quite different, and the color numbers don't match. 77.127.164.59 (talk) 21:00, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
DS BSOD?
It said in the article about the colours that some DS's turn Magenta, this is what mine does. It also mentioned a Blue one, but my Sister's turns a Pale Yellow, does anyone know what version this is? I think it should also be mentioned that it happens when a GBA game is removed. (GT4GTR (talk) 12:34, 11 June 2008 (UTC))
- Mine turns yellow ether way 81.79.229.3 (talk) 15:58, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Wait a minute...
Some OS BSOD's are missing. I think BetaCommandBot had them deleted. Anybody have a replacement? Ginbot86 (talk) 07:03, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Causes
I can't help thinking there is too much focus on power issues in the causes, and thta several aspects of this enumeration are redundant in any case. The 220/240V issue is a nonsense - switched mode PSUS are much more tolerant to voltage variations than that, and any supply that couldn't cope with such a difference is faulty already. Then you have faulty memory... intermittent power to HDDs... faulty hardware. Surely faulty memory and intermittent power are faulty hardware anyway and do not need listing separately. In breaking down the list and 'repeating' items in this way it puts undue emphasis on hardware faults for causing BSoDs. CrispMuncher (talk) 19:30, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
I once kicked my CPU out of computer rage, which caused the computer to restart and display the BSoD. I don't kno if it's just my computer, or if that occurs on many other computers. Montgomery' 39 17:50, 14 July 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Montgomery '39 (talk • contribs)
biggest blue screen of death at olympic games
about 40meters at Beijing Olympic games opening http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/1268/bsodjo03gk1.jpg maybe it's worth to mention __-_-_-__ 17:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Notable events with BSoD occurrences
Add new section detailing on big events where BSoDs have occurred? Such as a few Microsoft conferences, a Dell conference, and the 2008 Olympic Opening Ceremony? -- 李博杰 | —Talk contribs 07:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
BSoD caused by Windows Media Player?
When I try to view jpeg. images on Windows Media Player, my computer instantly freezes, shuts down and then restarts with a BSoD that contains some error code I can't remember. It's also caused my computer to slow down and act weird among other things. Can anyone relate to this or at least understand what I'm talking about? --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 22:54, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Hello. I can imagine there are myriad reasons why you may be experiencing this, but you are likely to get help on a help forum. Wikipedia talk pages exist for developing the article and not assisting users with technical problems. I use technical forums frequently & you will likely come across persons that are willing to help you with this situation. Good luck. E_dog95' Hi ' 23:26, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
- Now that you mention it, I just remembered I can go to the MSDN forums to ask this since I have a Windows Live ID. Can I erase my question or just strike it? --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 17:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Neither. I just wanted to pass along the info. Cheers! E_dog95' Hi ' 19:46, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
- Now that you mention it, I just remembered I can go to the MSDN forums to ask this since I have a Windows Live ID. Can I erase my question or just strike it? --Crackthewhip775 (talk) 17:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Useless
I'll just say: Why is there so many useless stuff here(in the article)? Maybe some of it should be deleted... Anyone bold enough to do it?
I mean really, who cares about screens of death on the Wii, when it says it only pops up while using homebrew software?
Seriously?! 76.173.217.110 (talk) 21:04, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
That is because the BSOD article is not specific to Windows. Ginbot86 (talk) 03:46, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe it should? Seriously. It's not as bad idea as it may sound. Let's make it Windows-specific. And add a short section "Other Windows error screens". If anybody is looking for other blue screens, we redirect them to Screens of death. If you think the title wouldn't be appropriate then, we can move this article to "Fatal errors in Microsoft Windows" or something like that. Ian (87.205.182.113 (talk) 16:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC))
- I removed the In Popular Culture Section. Does that help? I Feel Tired (talk) 03:57, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
BSOD text quotations
Should the text on the blue screens be quoted on the page? Ginbot86 (talk) 05:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
- No, not really for 2 reasons. The first being almost everyone has gotten one and the second is if one really wanted to see what the screen had to say the images are in high enough resolution for the viewer to read them. Also, this would add unnecessary bulk to the article as almost every version of Windows has had different text. Deathwish644 22:01, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Removal of Game Boy Advance heading
The Game Boy Advance 'blue screen' should be removed from this article as it does not match the original heading of the article. Removal of the cartridge only results in a frozen screen derived from the source of data being removed. No methods are called to prevent damage or to gently let the user down. Deathwish644 22:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
Most commonly MS Win NPOV
The article says "displayed by some operating systems, most notably Microsoft Windows", and while I know this to be true, I don't think it needs to be included in an encyclopedic article. I feel that despite the obvious truth to it, it doesn't follow NPOV. Does anyone agree with me? --Sauronjim (talk) 15:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Memory Dump?
On certain occasions while running some games, my computer suddenly pulls up a blue screen that says memory dump or something, then shuts down on its own. Does anyone else encounter this? This might me a good addition to the article. 66.108.226.201 (talk) 19:40, 10 August 2009 (UTC)