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*Sorry, '''Delete'''. If this is already covered elsewhere, then I see no reason to keep this article. I would agree that this article is indeed "hopelessly PoV" when it would require a major rewrite to have a more neutral tone ''and'' when it seems likely that people would be offended by the idea of a rewrite. NPOV ''can'' be done-- the articles on [[The Holocaust]] and the [[Final Solution]] have done rather well in keeping an encyclopedic tone on an emotionally-charged subject -- but those are the collective work of many editors. [[User:Mandsford|Mandsford]] ([[User talk:Mandsford|talk]]) 18:45, 5 September 2009 (UTC) |
*Sorry, '''Delete'''. If this is already covered elsewhere, then I see no reason to keep this article. I would agree that this article is indeed "hopelessly PoV" when it would require a major rewrite to have a more neutral tone ''and'' when it seems likely that people would be offended by the idea of a rewrite. NPOV ''can'' be done-- the articles on [[The Holocaust]] and the [[Final Solution]] have done rather well in keeping an encyclopedic tone on an emotionally-charged subject -- but those are the collective work of many editors. [[User:Mandsford|Mandsford]] ([[User talk:Mandsford|talk]]) 18:45, 5 September 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete'''. This article is highly POV. The matter is already covered in more neutral articles such as [[1984 anti-Sikh riots]], [[Operation Blue Star]] and [[Punjab insurgency]]. [[User:Utcursch|utcursch]] | [[User talk:Utcursch|talk]] 18:55, 5 September 2009 (UTC) |
*'''Delete'''. This article is highly POV. The matter is already covered in more neutral articles such as [[1984 anti-Sikh riots]], [[Operation Blue Star]] and [[Punjab insurgency]]. [[User:Utcursch|utcursch]] | [[User talk:Utcursch|talk]] 18:55, 5 September 2009 (UTC) |
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*'''Delete'''. I forgot I was reading an encyclopedia whilst reading this. It seemed more like Sikh propaganda. [[User:Cream147|Cream147]] <sub>[[User Talk:Cream147|Shout at me for doing wrong]]</sub> 22:24, 5 September 2009 (UTC) |
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A blatant and clear-cut case of POV pushing. The term "Third Sikh Holocaust" gets only 1,600 hits on Google (the first few of which are YouTube videos) and absolutely zero hits on Google Scholar. Hemlock Martinis (talk) 00:04, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete, with no previous good version to which to revert, this is hopelessly in violation of WP:NPOV. Nyttend (talk) 01:42, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. -- -SpacemanSpiffCalvin‡Hobbes 01:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete Initially I considered whether an article rename would suffice, but reading through the article, it is clear that it is a irremediable piece of soapboxing. Other articles created by the same user Guru Fatha Singh Khalsa (talk · contribs)
- also need to be scrutinized to see if there is anything worth retaining. (read for example footnote 52 in Harbhajan Singh Yogi) Abecedare (talk) 02:48, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- I noticed and examined the other two articles, and Google turned up some scholarship on the first two "Sikh holocausts" (which are only called such by partisan sources). A merge into a new article such as Sikh persecution in the 18th century or something along those lines will likely be the end result. We're attempting to rectify the neutrality and title issues separately from this article since those two have the possibility of becoming viable articles whereas this one is irredeemable. --Hemlock Martinis (talk) 17:14, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete Clear case of POV pushing with no reliable source verifiability. Not one hit on gbooks or gscholar (unlikely given the scope of religious studies and ethnic studies at major universities). The only gnews link is a partisan source. Also part of this set of articles was this AfD that resulted in a delete, but one that had similar amount of reference padding to Harbhajan Singh Yogi and had overlapping editors. -SpacemanSpiffCalvin‡Hobbes 02:58, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete as hopelessly PoV, (as probably are most articles with the title holocaust). Though there does need to be an NPOV article on the many allegations of unprovoked killings of Sikhs during this period. Imc (talk) 15:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete. Entirely an essay/opinion piece in tone and style. Priyanath talk 16:00, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry, Delete. If this is already covered elsewhere, then I see no reason to keep this article. I would agree that this article is indeed "hopelessly PoV" when it would require a major rewrite to have a more neutral tone and when it seems likely that people would be offended by the idea of a rewrite. NPOV can be done-- the articles on The Holocaust and the Final Solution have done rather well in keeping an encyclopedic tone on an emotionally-charged subject -- but those are the collective work of many editors. Mandsford (talk) 18:45, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete. This article is highly POV. The matter is already covered in more neutral articles such as 1984 anti-Sikh riots, Operation Blue Star and Punjab insurgency. utcursch | talk 18:55, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
- Delete. I forgot I was reading an encyclopedia whilst reading this. It seemed more like Sikh propaganda. Cream147 Shout at me for doing wrong 22:24, 5 September 2009 (UTC)