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Deletion discussion

Happy New Year from Thailand. You are a great editor. I have been looking at Thailand-related articles, and noticed an article about an obscure man who worked as a missionary in Thailand. I can find nothing related to WIKI notability standards. So far only one note to KEEP with no valid reason. Your opinion is appreciated. Thank you. รัก-ไทย 07:06, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

Er, thanks; which article?  Sandstein  07:08, 7 January 2010 (UTC)

List of former

Good close. And well-written and explained rationale. You may want to leave a note, at Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Former_religion. Hope you are doing well, Cirt (talk) 07:19, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. I see that the AfD is already linked in that discussion. Best regards,  Sandstein  07:20, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah okay, no worries, Cirt (talk) 07:21, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

My appeal

I think I will follow your advice and withdraw my appeal. I will do my best to be problem-free for about 2 months and then ask Henrik to lift the formal restriction. Sorry for all the trouble I have caused. Offliner (talk) 00:54, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

Possible violation of topic ban

Hi, I'm not sure of the proper procedures, but this is just to let you know that Tymek has violated his topic ban here: [1] Triplestop x3 22:45, 10 January 2010 (UTC)

I've asked Tymek to comment here.  Sandstein  06:45, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Triplestop for being so interested in my me and my contributions to the project. Such vigilant members of civilian Wiki-militia are always appreciated. Now to the topic. The only thing that Poeticbent has in comon with Eastern Europe is that he is a Polish born, Canadian-Polish artist. Where he was born and went to school is obviously not material to his article. Since Triplestop is fully aware of this, given how closely he followed the case (for no apparant reason) this notification is just the worst kind of block-shopping by him, not to mention a cynical attempt at silencing those who might vote against him in his AfD. Tymek (talk) 15:19, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I disagree. The subject, Richard Tylman (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), is not only a Polish national, but almost all of the article concerns his work in or about Poland, which is a country in Eastern Europe. Consequently, by editing the AfD about him, you violated your topic ban (WP:EEML#Tymek topic banned) "from articles about Eastern Europe, their associated talk pages, and any process discussion about same, widely construed". Moreover, your comment above is unnecessarily aggressive and derogatory; by making such comments you treat Wikipedia as a battleground, conduct for which the Committee has already censured you (WP:EEML#Disruption 3). Per WP:EEML#Enforcement, therefore, you are blocked for 48 hours.  Sandstein  16:12, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Poland is in Central Europe, not Eastern.--Kotniski (talk) 16:50, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Like most of Central Europe, it is also part of Eastern Europe under most of the definitions in the article Eastern Europe; that is enough for inclusion in a widely construed topic ban.  Sandstein  16:59, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

I'd beg to differ with that; the idea that all ex-communist countries are in Eastern Europe is described there as outdated. And geographically Poland is right in the middle of the continent.--Kotniski (talk) 17:13, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Anyway, "about Eastern Europe" can hardly be taken to mean "mentioning some subject with some connection to Eastern Europe" - the article in question is about a person who happened to be born there. This is construing far too widely IMO.--Kotniski (talk) 17:16, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Topic bans are generally construed very widely, including by ArbCom. The topic ban appears particularly relevant in the case of this AfD since the prior AfD seems to have been part of the disputes related to or covered by the WP:EEML case. For these reasons, I will not lift the block, but as described on the arbitration page, any enforcement action can be appealed to WP:AE or ArbCom.  Sandstein  17:22, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Come on, Kotniski. We all know what the EEML situation was about. Of course the terms of the topic bans are meant to cover the "Eastern European" situations in the sense of what the focus of disruption was in that case. Arguing that Poland, of all things, should fall outside those bans can hardly be taken seriously. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:38, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Tymek blocked?

Why Tymek was blocked? He is great and good editor. I dont see any reason to block him. Stop blocking start talking with users. Wikipedia is going to wrong way--Paweł5586 (talk) 17:51, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Please see my explanation immediately above.  Sandstein  18:04, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

And the irony is, that Paweł5586 currently is also under EE topic ban [2], this time it's WP:DIGWUREN. M0RD00R (talk) 18:20, 11 January 2010 (UTC)