User talk:A Sniper

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You're welcome

Re. User_talk:MrWhipple#Thank_you, I'm glad I could help. I've been out of the Wikipedia Mormon editing community for some time, mainly because of the frustration of dealing with people who create their own POV edits and then "camp out" to defend them. If we can pull together more editors knowledgeable in Mormon history (and historiography), I think we can turn a bad article into something helpful and balanced. --MrWhipple (talk) 22:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Jangle pop and lists

Hi, I agree with your criticism of the subjective list in the Jangle pop article. I relocated the list to a "List" article, because it undercuts the credibility of the article. Some Wiki editors seem to think that lists are exempt from the Wiki rules, but they are not. Some lists have a lot of random additions.,..... To improve the article, we need a few good sources. I'll see if I can track one down.OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 15:04, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

A civil law question

Could you provide some guidance regarding a article in which minor emancipation is being discussed?

We know that once a minor marries he/she attains emancipation by default (this would apply for example, to a minor that gets married with parent's consent). The question is actually this: If a minor wants to get married and his father is dead and the mother is unreachable, is it not the case that the minor needs to go before a court to request emancipation by filling a petition for emancipation so that he can then obtain a marriage license?

Could you please confirm this is the case? My understanding is that the Juvenile court judge assess proof of financial independence, adequate housing arrangements, and sufficient maturity to grant emancipated minor status to the applicant.

Your help would be much appreciated.

≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 01:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

No good deed goes unpunished. I'd like to fill in some blanks and see if it makes any difference to your opinion. Here are the Colorado statutes that appear most relevant:

• 14-2-108. Judicial approval.[1]
• (1) The juvenile court, as defined in section 19-1-103 (17), C.R.S., after a reasonable effort has been made to notify the parents or guardian of each underage party, may order the county clerk and recorder to issue a marriage license and a marriage certificate form:
• (a) To a party aged sixteen or seventeen years who has no parent or guardian, or who has no parent capable of consenting to his marriage, or whose parent or guardian has not consented to his marriage; or

• 19-1-103. Definitions. [2]
• As used in this title or in the specified portion of this title, unless the context otherwise requires
• (45) "Emancipated juvenile", as used in section 19-2-511, means a juvenile over fifteen years of age and under eighteen years of age who has, with the real or apparent assent of the juvenile's parents, demonstrated independence from the juvenile's parents in matters of care, custody, and earnings. The term may include, but shall not be limited to, any such juvenile who has the sole responsibility for the juvenile's own support, who is married, or who is in the military.

Finally, here is the account of the judgement from the Associated Press:

• The guru needed a court order to obtain a marriage license since he's too young to be married in Colorado without parental permission. Juvenile Court Judge Morris E. Cole issued the order and the license was obtained Friday from the city clerk's office. Cole interviewed the couple for 15 minutes in his chambers before issuing the court order May 7. The guru's father is dead and his mother couldn't be reached in India to give her consent. Cole said the boy "makes quite a bit of money and he seems quite mature—much older than 16." "Guru, 16, marries secretary" AP Tues. May 21, 1974 Greeley Tribune

It's my contention based on these sources that the judge ordered the issuance of a marriage license to a minor. The minor subsequently married and as a result of being married became an emancipated minor. He would also have been emancipated if his living parent had given consent. So the emancipation was an outcome of the wedding rather than being a precondition of the wedding. Is that correct? Your responses in this matter are appreciated. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 07:17, 18 July 2008 (UTC) (PS: You may respond on Jossi's talk page if you like, in order to keep the conversation orderly. -W.)

Thanks for your prompt and thoughtful response. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 08:48, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Congrats

		The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
		For exhibiting several acts of editorial bravery and courage in defense of NPOV. Keep up the good work! Eustress (talk) 16:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Surreal Barnstar
		"For adding 'special flavor' to the community by acting as a sort of wildcard." I realized after our latest round of volleys at Fanny Alger (which might be deleted anyway, but that is a different story) that the article is much better after the pressure and friction between us (not to mention several other articles we have edited over the last few months). Sometimes we don't see eye to eye, but I think that the Wikipedia is better for it - especially as you are able to remain civil when edits and consensus doesn't go your way. Thanks for challenging me to be a better editor! (and forgive me if I get frustrated with you in the future ;) ). Descartes1979 (talk) 06:55, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

historians

Hey Sniper. I am writing in regards to the Joseph Smith discussion page. I started a discusion titled 'historians?' three quaters of the way down. Can we get your point of view on this, as you seem to be pretty NPOV. thanks (Captain hoek (talk) 20:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC))

I just want to throw in a comment about JFoxe, the main "editor" of this article. A while back he said to you, "If you've like to see what Joseph Smith could (and in my opinion, should) look like, check out my handiwork at Fawn Brodie and Billy Sunday. And yes, there there was a considerable amount of "sniping" in the process of getting those articles together. But now they've been basically stable for more than a year." Well, I am the major "sniper" who disagreed with him about the Billy Sunday article. I am still displeased with the article. It definitely reflects JFoxe's interests (Sunday's conservative theological credentials) and ignores Sunday's importance as a cultural figure. The only reason the article became "basically stable" is that I finally quit--I just gave up fighting with him. I consider him a bully. He is tenacious and very focused. I just wanted to let you know that you probably cannot win your edit war, and you may as well just decide how much of his POV you can live with.--Rocketj4 (talk) 13:17, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Rosh Hashanah

Best wishes for a happy and healthy new year.

On the subject of Rosh Hashanah, is this edit right? — [[::User:Malik Shabazz|Malik Shabazz]] ([[::User talk:Malik Shabazz|talk]] · [[::Special:Contributions/Malik Shabazz|contribs]]) 06:04, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Recent edits

Yeah, I got a few of my grad school applications done, and had a couple of lazy evenings so I couldn't resist :). Best, --Descartes1979 (talk) 20:19, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh, Jesus (reprise)

Alright, maybe it was an understandable temptation considering the campaign for the Jesus picture, which I suspect was more about annoying people than actually getting his picture into the article. I suppose that any average Christian reading the talk page wouldn't bother getting the Hebrew translated anyway, so the potential for offense maybe was low. Perhaps it is best to not take the risk and resist the powerful temptation to mess with such captions. The harmless fun is over I guess.

You seem to have been here longer than I, so I have a question. I wanted to mention in Will Lee that he is Jewish (since I am pretty sure he is), but I couldn't find explicit mention of it in any news articles or on his Sesame Street profile. I know this place is big on using sources, but honestly this would be fairly uncontroversial. Do you suppose I could add it anyway? Chedorlaomer (talk) 16:07, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for finding a source. I guess I got lost in references to Mr. Hooper's Jewishness and somehow missed those that discussed Lee himself. By the way, I like the new caption on Talk:Jew's personal Jesus. Thanks again, Chedorlaomer (talk) 21:40, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Book

No problem, I was going to give it a few more days then email you since I hadn't seen it yet. Yeah, grad school apps are killing me right now - I am applying to 5 schools, and I have three of them done and submitted. The last two are due next Tuesday. Add that and the fact that we are in busy season right now and I don't have a ton of time on my hands. Yet somehow, I manage to log in to Wikipedia...Ironic isn't it ;). Can't wait for the book - catch you later.--Descartes1979 (talk) 23:57, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

ar wiki

Hi, can take a look to Talk:Arabic Wikipedia? about it's restrictions. regards. --Riyadi.asmawi (talk) 13:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

• Hello again, just to read the talk page in full, nd comment on it, better (Also with a bunch of Friends) , try to put what's been said about the arabic wikipedia..too fundamentalist. thank you for ur time. --Riyadi.asmawi (talk) 17:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

MJ

Thank you for your comment on MJ. I think I will take a breather. I just can't understand why SkyWriter has such a vendetta to push "clarifying" the article as "Christian" at the expense of marginalization of many Messianic Jews who reject the label not only nominally, but behaviorally and doctrinally as well. inigmatus (talk) 21:03, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Reform and Zionism

Seeing the ongoing edit back and forth on the Reform Judaism page, I tried to be a neutral party adding additional info on Reform Zionism, correcting some HUC facts, and making the American Council for Judaism note have an "ending" - as it was it implied the Council was just as big and powerful as it was once upon a time. I took the wording that you fact-checked from the ACJ Wikipedia page where it seemed unchallenged and therefore ripe for copying. Before I go out and get other facts, I am curious what your goals/intentions are on this area so I can make sure my efforts might find a conclusion. Many thanks for your efforts to edit the various Jewish and Reform Jewish pages JerseyRabbi (talk) 02:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

BNR metal

I have put BNR metal on the Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. IF you want, you can try and contribute to the discussion.75.159.18.67 (talk) 19:28, 23 May 2009 (UTC)

DNA Spread Theory

Take a look at it as a shining example of OR. I've told the editor that he can expect it to be deleted. Dougweller (talk) 17:48, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

		The Guidance Barnstar
		Thank you for your revision. I am new to editing :) Ninja247 (talk) 18:27, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

RE: The overly quick finger

You're welcome, I've done almost the same thing myself twice in the last 10 minutes... Harland1 (^t/_c) 22:43, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

Question

I'm asking this as a sincere question, not as a challenge. Why was my edit "incorrect"? Unschool 18:29, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

Permission to use File:Sugarmonkey.jpg

The file File:Sugarmonkey.jpg states that it is a "public domain photo of sugarmonkey live, taken by Jen Owens, available for download at the band's myspace page (www.myspace.com/sugarmonkeyonline)". I can't seem to find Jen Owens' public domain release of this photo? Can you point me towards it? Thanks. (Feel free to respond here, to keep the discussion in the same place.)—C45207 | Talk 08:59, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I, in the real world, granted Owens the right & ability to take the photo in the first place, and the notice was up at the previous version of sugarmonkeyonline.com when the band was in existence, which (sadly) is no more. This is the only reason the photo was used by me at Wikipedia...and you can see I am a long-time, bona fide Wikipedian. The final version of the web site stated only that content was the property of sugarmonkey limited. If the only way to put the photo in the Commons is to re-edit the photo page with new info, just let me know and I'll do so. The point is that I have the authority personally to allow the photo free usage, as the proprietor and representative of said photo. Best, A Sniper (talk) 17:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

The best thing to do is probably to send an e-mail from an address associated with the original publication to permissions-en(at)wikimedia(dot)org or a postal message to the Wikimedia Foundation permitting re-use under the GFDL, and note that you have done so on the image's talk page. —C45207 | Talk 16:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

WP:Hornbook -- a new law-related task force for the J.D. curriculum

Hi A Sniper,

I'm asking Wikipedians who are interested in United States legal articles to take a look at WP:Hornbook, the new "JD curriculum task force".

Our mission is to assimilate into Wikipedia all the insights of an American law school education, by reducing hornbooks to footnotes.

• Each casebook will have a subpage.

• Over the course of a semester, each subpage will shift its focus to track the unfolding curriculum(s) for classes using that casebook around the country.
• It will also feature an extensive, hyperlinked "index" or "outline" to that casebook, pointing to pages, headers, or {{anchors}} in Wikipedia (example).
• Individual law schools can freely adapt our casebook outlines to the idiosyncratic curriculum devised by each individual professor.

• I'm encouraging law students around the country to create local chapters of the club I'm starting at my own law school, "Student WP:Hornbook Editors". Using WP:Hornbook as our headquarters, we're hoping to create a study group so inclusive that nobody will dare not join.

What you can do now:

1. Add WP:Hornbook to your watchlist, {{User Hornbook}} to your userpage, and ~~~~ to Wikipedia:Hornbook/participants.

2. If you're a law student,

• Email http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Hornbook to your classmates, and tell them to do the same.
• Contact me directly via talk page or email about coordinating a chapter of "Student WP:Hornbook Editors" at your own school.

(You don't have to start the club, or even be involved in it; just help direct me to someone who might.)

3. Introduce yourself to me. Law editors on Wikipedia are a scarce commodity. Do knock on my talk page if there's an article you'd like help on.

Regards, Andrew Gradman ^talk/_WP:Hornbook 03:37, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Wikiquette alert

I have filed a wikiquette alert concerning your unilateral removal of a POV concern tag at Ashkenazi intelligence. ·Maunus·ƛ· 18:08, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Sorry i forgot to include the link. I decided that ANI was not the right forum as I hope there will be no need to use any administrative tools once input from other users have been heard. Here is the link Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#Ownership_issues_at_Ashkenazi_intelligence.·Maunus·ƛ· 18:29, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, THAT went nowhere! ;) A Sniper (talk) 19:26, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Sugarmonkey.jpg

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Sugarmonkey.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --εω (talk) 02:05, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

I couldn't care less. Delete it. Don't delete it. The band doesn't exist any more so the argument is more or less moot. A Sniper (talk) 03:42, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your donation!

Your release of File:Eric Greif at right, '85.jpg into the public domain is very generous. Thanks for doing that! —Mr. E. Sánchez (that's me!)^{What I Do} / _{What I Say} 04:05, 11 September 2009 (UTC)

Caption

I looked at the version of 12th September as this seemed to be the only stable version (it had sat for about a day unchanged, thus seemed to have achived some kind of consensus).Slatersteven (talk) 19:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

DKY

The Garlasco article was nominated for DKY on Sept. 10 and is under discussion.Historicist (talk) 15:43, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Ashkenazim talk page

We can built quick consensus around Golda Meir and/or Anne Frank if you want. More, Ashkenazim also made great contributions to American society and their history in Israel can't be ignored-so we have to include at least one American and/or Israeli-preferably by me both. If you agree we can make things faster.--Gilisa (talk) 06:41, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks, now we have to pass it on the talk page.--Gilisa (talk) 06:27, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

For the support. As I recall, you've helped fend off his POV pushes before. I recall (I hope correctly) that he was issued a topic ban, or at least article ban, for this exact same set of anti- 'Ethnic Jew/Secular Jew' attitude before. If so, can you help me find the links, I think we will need to renew that ban. I genuinely cannot tell why he's a POV pusher, but the antipathy towards Jews who aren't in accordance to his perspective of 'orthodoxy' is palpable. ThuranX (talk) 05:01, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

I saw your note, and have replied there, it's the same old 'Only Orthodox Jews are the real Jews' attitude as our other POV pusher. It'll be another equally long hassle. ThuranX (talk) 04:26, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

She's repeatedly admitted a POV< but she can't understand it's a POV, because it's HER view, I think she's trapped in the WP:TRUTH. ThuranX (talk) 00:59, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Marc Garlasco

I noticed your comments to the IP editor who is using many different addresses on that page and Talk page. I asked about this here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:New_contributors%27_help_page#Editing_with_an_IP_address and was told it is ok, and that editors should not be harrassed to get an account. I seems problematic to me. Millmoss (talk) 22:58, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

I am not sure what policy you feel I am in breach of, but I find it puzzling because you say you are familiar with policy and have removed tags four times in a day and inserted potentially libelous material in to a biography of a living person. For self-disclosure purposes, I'm not part of a cabal,I'm actually trying to improve the article, and I'd like to work with others to do so.--68.78.0.78 (talk) 13:22, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

You following the herd in diminishing the reliability of NGO Monitor with such statements, coupled with your reluctance to create a single user account, just acts to frustrate - cabal or no cabal. A Sniper (talk) 22:07, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Concerning Brutal Death Metal

I just read the talk page and I see absolutely nothing BUT people stating it should be included, I see no "general consensus that it be not included." You might as well take my information as professional original research, I've been in the extreme metal scene for over 15 years now. I know almost everything there is to know about metal. I was there when brutal death metal first began to form, and it is most definitely a real genre. I don't have any magazines or publications to cite for it, but I am sure I can find some online. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anathematized one (talk • contribs) 02:04, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Who is a Jew? reversion

There is not requirement to "go slow" in Wikipedia policy so far as I'm aware.
Please read the cited sources before reverting.
If previous editors choose to use ambiguous terminology that leaves the reader wondering what they mean, that's not my problem. Encyclopaedic articles tend to be explicit in defining what they are about.
If you have an interest in the article, then where were you while it remained unreferenced for at least a year since the last time I looked at it? No article while it remains unreferenced can be considered encyclopaedic by Wikipedia quality standards, as I'm sure you are aware.
As I said in the edit summary, if you disagree, use talk. If you dispute the source used, please find an alternative one, preferably accessible online. Thank you--Meieimatai? 05:08, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

I have replaced the reversion you made. As before, it has been done is sections so you are able, should you wish to do so, to engage in discussion of any content you find a problem with...on Talk first.

Your assertion that I present an orthodox-biased POV is something you will have to convince me of since, if this is the case, it was not intentional. However, that can be evaluated on the merits of your argument and proof.

Please note that calling in an administrator is a threat when delivered before any discussion has taken place. Please do not threaten me. It is counter-productive to say the least--Meieimatai? 00:33, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

RE:Joseph Smith Jr. Article revision that you undid Good morning, you just undid my revision to the Joseph Smith article and threatened to block me from Wikipedia. However, the only comment you left in your edit summary was: "(Undid revision 322684358 by Wmgcf (talk) rv vandalism)". In your edit summary you failed to respond to the content of my previous edit summaries explaining why I was making the change. You are the third person who has undid my revision without responding to the reason for my revision. I am very game for discsussion and debate, but if you are going to undo my revisions then please first respond to the content of my revision and edit summaries - perhaps even offering alternate edits. If you feel passionately about Joseph Smith's treasure hunting you could make a Joseph Smith peculiarities subpage.

For the record the Joseph Smith article had a very lengthy section about Joseph's early treasure hunting days, but no mention of the event that made him who he was: his first vision where he says God and Jesus appeared to him and spoke to him. Nobody hates or loves Joseph for being a treasure hunter, and his treasure hunting activities stopped as soon as he got responsibilities. Therefore, treasure hunting is out and the vision is in. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wmgcf (talk • contribs) 11:49, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Salutes

Just saying hi. Still listening to the Morbid Saint you sent me every once in a while. Thanks again for that. Hope all is well. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 09:02, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

In response to your comments on my page, that sounds exciting! As far as me I'm just fine. Quite busy with college and work. Always struggling financially. Life is pretty good, though, for a number of reasons. By the way, tahnk you for your support on Judaism's talk page. I'm not sure what they don't understand. I get their argument that Judaism is a religion AND ethnicity. But there IS an article for the Jewish ethnicity. The article I edited to say "religion" is the Judaism RELIGION article. Two different articles. Not to mention I'm just trying to put "religion" in the intro sentence. The article states that Judaism is a religion about 5 million times in other places, so I don't get the fuss. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 03:03, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

ARGH (or should I say Oy vey!)

The Judaism article. There seems to be some argument again. I posted a bunch of evidence on the talk page. Your thoughts and comments on the discussion would be much appreciated. Blizzard Beast ^$ODIN$ 21:59, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Yup - you started quite an interesting few days of debate. It was a lot of fireworks, and for a day or two, I was the only editor sticking with the word religion. It really defies logic. Then again, you have a few Orthodox (from their talk pages) editors who have agenda-pushing POVs. Slrubinstein referred to you and me as a "tag team". Hardy har.  :) A Sniper (talk) 22:02, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

Peace on Ashkenazim PB

Seem like your edit is the last for now. In a case of further attempts to change the status quo I will be there to assist you. Regards--Gilisa (talk) 09:31, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

AfD

I've nominated List of former Jews, List of former Christians, and List of former Muslims together for deletion: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of former Jews.Kitfoxxe (talk) 18:06, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Jewish Identity

Is there any chance of the name changing for Who is a Jew? I've read through the circular arguments that seem to constitute what people on the talk page consider a "strong consensus" but the name is not appropriate for an encyclopedia, is it? It's rhetorical. Jim Steele (talk) 20:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)

Brutal/Slam Death Metal

What's so wrong about it? You've removed the categories a few times now and I'm confident that they're real genres. Hell, if deathcore is a sub-genre of death metal, brutal/slam should be.