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Can someone with access to the refernce material check whether [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sikh&diff=321749049&oldid=321706565 this recent diff] is in line with what Frank says in the cited ref? Thanks -- [[User:Timberframe|Timberframe]] ([[User talk:Timberframe|talk]]) 16:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
Can someone with access to the refernce material check whether [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sikh&diff=321749049&oldid=321706565 this recent diff] is in line with what Frank says in the cited ref? Thanks -- [[User:Timberframe|Timberframe]] ([[User talk:Timberframe|talk]]) 16:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)

== Really over the top ==

This article is full of crap. No disrespect meant to Sikhs, but this article is simply a one sided rant in praise of Sikhs talking about how brave they are. Moth brave this and most brave that. True, Sikhs are brave soldiers. But Thermopylae? Give me a break! Thermopylae was important not only because of the fact that a few thousand Greeks of various city states lead by 300 Spartans used terrain to their advantage to defend against a Persian army that vastly outnumbered them, but what made that battle so important in the terms of the future was that Greek civilization was allowed to continue. The history of the world from that point on was determined by Thermopylae. We today would be the inheritors of Persian, rather than Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian culture were it not for that battle. To compare a minor fight, no matter how brave and respactable the heroes, to Thermopylkae is the folly of a laughably amateur wanna be historian, probably around the age of 12. This whole article needs to be scrubbed of bias and self praise.

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Propoganda in the article

There is a lot of propaganda in the article utilizing links from similar propaganda stuff available in the internet. The Congress initiated riots is termed as Hindu. The BJP's and Sangh's action during the riots which included the rescue of Kushwant Singh and many other Sikhs is not even mentioned. Kushwant Singh himself has explained this that when he felt in Nazi Germany it was the Hindu Sangh that came to his rescue. So its time to remove those anti-Hindu version and put the things in right perspective.Politicalpandit (talk) 12:43, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As far as Wikipedia is concerned, the answer is to say what reliable sources say. If the sources portray two or more versions of the events then it is our role to say so, without adding our own assertions as to what is "propaganda" and what is the "right perspective". At the moment the issue that you mention cites a source, so the first thing is to check that the source has been accurately represented in this article (see below). If it has then it has the right to remain, albeit so do other reliably sourced versions. -- Timberframe (talk) 16:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

dude,whatever the first guy said is right.The BJP and the sangh did take protective action , this has even been said even by Khushwant Singh.59.180.142.138 (talk) 14:15, 3 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Can someone check Frank?

Can someone with access to the refernce material check whether this recent diff is in line with what Frank says in the cited ref? Thanks -- Timberframe (talk) 16:22, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Really over the top

This article is full of crap. No disrespect meant to Sikhs, but this article is simply a one sided rant in praise of Sikhs talking about how brave they are. Moth brave this and most brave that. True, Sikhs are brave soldiers. But Thermopylae? Give me a break! Thermopylae was important not only because of the fact that a few thousand Greeks of various city states lead by 300 Spartans used terrain to their advantage to defend against a Persian army that vastly outnumbered them, but what made that battle so important in the terms of the future was that Greek civilization was allowed to continue. The history of the world from that point on was determined by Thermopylae. We today would be the inheritors of Persian, rather than Greco-Roman and Judeo-Christian culture were it not for that battle. To compare a minor fight, no matter how brave and respactable the heroes, to Thermopylkae is the folly of a laughably amateur wanna be historian, probably around the age of 12. This whole article needs to be scrubbed of bias and self praise.