Talk:Starvation

dicuss the problems which contribute to famine.{ un-equal distribution of food, draught,flooding,increasing population.}

Stats

Where do these statistics come from? The cited source, [1], does not have them.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.160.14.120 (talk) 17:22, 22 February 2007 (UTC).

i agree with this: i'd like to know where they come from too.... Boud 12:21, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

i found it - two of the statistics are from the last paragraph of the first section of the BBC report: The report's chapter on agriculture says about 25,000 people die daily from hunger, with an estimated 815 million people suffering from malnutrition. Of course, it would be good to get closer to the source of the data. i also found http://www.fao.org/worldfoodsummit/english/fsheets/malnutrition.pdf which is on the FAO's web pages, but if you look at the pdf file (as a plain text file) and scroll down to the bottom, you'll see that its last date of modification is in 2001: <xap:ModifyDate>2001-10-05T11:27:31+02:00</xap:ModifyDate> Anyone digging up more recent data would be most welcome... Boud 12:47, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

The mortality rates in the article are misleading. I think the page should really only mention deaths that are a direct result of starvation, or at least mention the difference between deaths cause by starvation and deaths where starvation was a factor. Most of the referenced material acknowledges that the given numbers reflect deaths where starvation was a factor, but not always the cause of death.Treshnell

Image

Hi, I have no account so i dont want to edit this page, but could we please get rid of the poor african child on the page? I dont care about who is starving I just want to read about this topic without having to feel grossed out or guilty.

                           -thanks

"Grossed out"? Aye caramba... if you feel guilty, why are you not at Oxfam making a donation? The picture is not only relevant to the physical manifestation of starvation but it does a little bit of service towards making folks like you aware of this dark side of the human condition. I didn't post the pic but I won't be the one taking it down, either. -Rolypolyman 15:19, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

i think that the person who write she dont care bout who is starving is a reli big bitch

imho 4 pictures of starving people is too many, no matter how important issue the 3. world starvation would be

I don't think the person who made the above statement was a woman, it sounds (unfortunately) more like an American male to me (I say 'unfortunately' because I too am an American). And we wonder why we're called 'the ugly American'. Worse yet, I hate to say it, but we Americans could very well be responsible for this child's condition -- it's likely to have been caused by war, which was possible only because someone sold large caches of weaponry in this child's region. And guess who would have done that.

If the picture of this child goes, I will find another to take its place. Athana 19:55, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

This is an informative article, not a political, moral, or social statement. The picture should be purly objective. I say we get rid of the little nig and find something more approporiate. And it isnt americas fault that africans are starving. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.78.176.45 (talk) 16:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

awwwww cmon i wanna see more pictures of starving people! starvin marvin in space!

Question

How long does it take to actually die from starvation? I have looked around and can't find a timeline. I just find 'starvation can be used to kill people', which is obvious. I would imagine the time would be about 3 weeks to a month. Hopefully not more. I don't think I can imagine staving for that long.

I suppose it does depend on how much mass you have. Piepants 10:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)Piepants

Yes, a highly obese person may survive several months with only water, since they have large stores of fat in their adipose tissue, which can readily be broken down into fatty acids and metabolized. It would also depend on other factors, for example proteins are also needed, which required amino acids. Some can be synthesized from basic monomers, but others are essential in the diet so would could only be created by breaking down existing muscle. More information is needed on this in the article, eventhough there can be no precise answer. Richard001 07:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

what exactly is malutriton? and how long doese it really take for the effects of starvation to show? this is for a homeeconomics homework assigment so pleeease help...x

Behavior Section

""Collecting recipes" is the most significant behavioral alteration due to starvation (for westerners). That is why it is the topic sentence of this paragraph. We sincerely hope you will finish reading this paragraph in spite of the poor choice of relevant or accurate information included."

Could someone please rewrite this? That's not encyclopedic style by any stretch... 134.82.97.14 22:06, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

Biochemistry of Starvation

Good day. I cleaned up the paragraph, but I wanted someone's opinion on my paragraph before I entered it in. I appreciate the time to look over my paragraph.

My paragraph:

The glycogen storage is used up and the level of insulin in the circulation is low and the level of glucagon is very high. The main means of energy production is lipolysis. The TCA cycle helps the gluconeogenesis convert [[glycerol and fatty acids the acetyl CoA produces the energy used. Two systems of energy enter the gluconeogenesis, proteolysis provides alanine and Lactate produced from pyruvate. Too much Acetyl CoA produces ketone bodies, which can be detected in an urine exam. The brain starts to use ketone bodies as a source of energy.

I took out during a starvation or prolonged fast because I thought it was already self explanatory with Biochemistry of starvation as a title. I added the two lactate and proteolysis sentences together because it sounded better to both systems that enter the gluconeogenesis. I also kind rewrote the citric acid sentence as well because it was a hard read. It was understandable, but a hard read.Rem Nightfall (talk) 16:38, 26 May 2008 (UTC)Rem Nightfall

cited material is to old

Cited facts in lead are much to old.

25,000 people died of starvation every day in 2003, and as of 2001 to 2003, about 800 million people were chronically undernourished.

Today numbers are more in the neighborhood of 100 000 - 150 000 with about 40 000 children per day.Go-here.nl (talk) 17:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Treatment and Recovery sections

The sections 'Recovery' and 'Treatment' need to be cleaned up, and merged.

Possibly more information and medical professional link to sources? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.5.162.99 (talk) 22:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Abuse

I didn't see anything about child abuse and neglect. This definitely happens. If nothing else, a link to neglect, abuse or child abuse in the 'see also' section should be there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.134.49 (talk) 00:19, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Merge

There seems to be too much overlapping information. It is suggested that we split the hunger article into hunger(motivation) and hunger(malnutrition). We could then merge the hunger(malnutrition) article with this starvation article. Nicehumor (talk) 19:34, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Bloated Bellies

Could someone add why children have bloated bellies when they are starved? Starved adults don't have bloated bellies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.42.33.38 (talk) 02:45, 15 October 2009 (UTC)