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I think people are getting confused. [[WP:Notability]] specifically defines guidelines that "outline how suitable a topic is for its own article. They do not directly limit the content of articles". If this page was trying to be an encyclopedic list of tetris variants, then the criteria for inclusion in the list would be verifiability, not notability. However, as per the [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tetris variants|deletion discussion]], this page ought to be restricted to official variants only. This would avoid all debate over what makes a clone "notable". [[User:AndrewBolt|AndrewBolt]] ([[User talk:AndrewBolt|talk]]) 08:03, 13 April 2010 (UTC)


== Sex Tetris ==
== Sex Tetris ==

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Missing

off the bat, missing many arcade versions, i'll check back later to edit. Also, tetrinet would be located with the other clones, along with tetron, quadra, and some other more popular variants.

If it's an officially licensed Tetris product, it should remain in the table. Tetris.com had a partial list on its older site. Also, some games use the Tetris brand without using real Tetris gameplay. Any clone info to add to the bottom would be appreciated.
okay, tetrinet is a clone, for one. if you need a larger list of officially licensed tetris games, try:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/search/index.html?game=tetris&x=0&y=0 they're missing tetris grand master 2, and the not yet released third installment. more info on that can be found at http://www.arika.co.jp/ i'm also pretty sure there was a pokemon variation released for gameboy. i'll search for more sources later.

I believe the Pokemon Tetris game you're referring to is Pokemon Puzzle Challenge, also released for the N64, which used the same gameplay as Panel de Pon (the Japanese name of Tetris Attack. I don't think that would belong here, but feel free to add it.

no, the one i am referring to was released in 2001 i believe: http://marillsworld.com/pokemonmini.shtml / also, "net tetris" is an unlicensed clone-- i'll put it in the right place.

does anyone object to changing "unofficial" to "unlicensed"?

This may cause some confusion between "unlicenced" in the sense of the Tegen NES Tetris and "unlicenced" as in an unofficial variant. Y0u (Y0ur talk page) (Y0ur contributions) 20:17, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

(C64) Duotris added to the list.

I remember playing something called "Tetronix", althought it appears to have been Tetris Max, which apparently used pentominoes instead of tetrominoes. Is that listed and I missed it? Or is it considered a totally different game?--T. Anthony 05:29, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hah, it makes no difference. Tetris Max doesn't seem to be there either. Anyway as a kid I had an Apple IIGS so I played Apple related computer games. Tetris Max or Tetronix(whichever) was basically identical to Tetris accept it used three and five piece blocks. To be honest I kind of preferred it to regular Tetris as it had a greater variety of shapes. Anyway know what I'm talking about? Can it not be counted for legal reasons? Or did I just miss it?--T. Anthony 05:33, 30 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

The layout of this page makes little or no sense

What are the criteria for listing a version under one part of the page or another? Basically, what distinguishes a clone from a variant? Official from unofficial? And why are the two sections completely different in format - one a table, and the other a plain list?

Better would be to make a proper distinction between:

  • clones, by which I understand implementations of the original gameplay, with nothing added and nothing taken away (you could ask whether it's worth listing these at all)
  • implementations of the original game with various play modes, all of which are essentially plain old Tetris (e.g. Game Boy Tetris)
  • variants, by which I understand modifications of the gameplay to make what is essentially a different game (e.g. Dr Mario, Welltris, Columns or any of the 3D variants)
  • compendia of Tetris and variant games (e.g. Tetris & Dr Mario, Tetrix Classics)

And of the variants with variable-sized blocks, I'm surprised somebody decided to name one Pentis. No doubt several people (myself included) have coded up what that name logically means and probably even used that name: a version where all the pieces are pentominoes. Moreover, all Google gives me towards the Core Image version is Wikipedia and its mirrors. -- Smjg 18:17, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Super Tetris

Listed are Super Tetris 2 and 3, which I assume are sequels, but the only game I played and knew existed (until now) is Super Tetris, which seems to be missing. Maybe I'm missing something here, so I didn't add it. Retodon8 02:15, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Some of the games here don't seem to belong on a list of Tetris variants - see my above comment. Is Super Tetris any different in gameplay from normal Tetris? -- Smjg 12:56, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
No, from what I remember Super Tetris is simply Tetris looking prettier. I remember soundcard background music and a circus setting (background image), but I don't think it even had powerups or anything deviating from the original Tetris gameplay. Retodon8 15:00, 28 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Variants

Has somebody played Tetriller? A Swedish game from 1990, where the programmers added a little guy running around and who the player should avoid hitting with the falling block... One of the funniest semi-clones I have played is X-Tetris, though, where different male and female characters are falling down the playing field, and you are supposed to pair them up for intercourse, and orgasmical release. Very silly, but it should probably be an easier game if it had a queer mode. 85.226.122.194 13:29, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

korean tetris worlds

this probably doesn't belong in the authentic tetris listing. look at the site. it gives no recognition of tetris llc anywhere, and there's no "authentic tetris game" insignia. i doubt this to be authentic.

Dr. Matt Laquidara

Please present some sort of evidence for this inclusion. Google turns up nothing. 65.6.109.43 01:06, 24 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

he is famous --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.119.138.224 (talk * contribs) .

More Variants

Quadra, Yahoo! Towers, and Brick game. 128.6.176.54 20:54, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm. Yahoo! Towers and Gadgadsgame from Neopets kind of work. Although, Yahoo! Towers does NOT have rotating blocks - just blocks that change position. (A game on CalgaryPlanet has a game called "Sushi" that works the same way. Or last I checked.)
And Gadgadsgame, well, if a box of the same fruit is made, it grows bigger. There is a way to clear them, when a flashing background version of the fruit touches the same type of fruit when it lands. Anyway, I don't know if the Brick Game, in your context, counts. If you mean the one in Lego, it's more like Connect Four. --Addict 2006 04:32, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

11th April 2007

Please be aware that Wikipedia has an official policy against articles that are web directories: See WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a directory and Wikipedia:External links. The version of this article that an anonymous user is reverting to (citing 'vandalism') contains a list of unnotable clones referenced only by an external link to their respective official sites. This is external link spamming. If there is a particluar Tetris clone(s) that you are trying to highlight, let me know which ones and we can see if we can make a full article for them and add them to the table proper. Marasmusine 16:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What's wrong with adding games to the list without using external links? SharkD 00:55, 4 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing, as long as they follow Wikipedia's WP:V policy; although if such entries can do so it's probably worth making a full article for them. Marasmusine 19:49, 31 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Elements

I believe Tetris Elements has both Windows and Macintosh versions on the same disc. Look here: http://www.valusoft.com/tetris/elements/index.html Theclaw1 15:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well spotted, I added the reference. Marasmusine 17:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Frac

what about frac? not on the table. we're not encyclopedia britannica here. last i heard, wikipedia originated in america and in america we take everything to extreme including listing tetris variants. furthermore, all your base are belong to us. S.Riccardelli

Frac? The Food Research and Action Center? Furthermore, fnord. MarašmusïneTalk 18:49, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A copy of Frac can be found at this site.S.Riccardelli

Well, it's certainly a Tetris clone. Next thing to do is read WP:N and WP:V and ask yourself "is Frac" important and can the information be verified? MarašmusïneTalk 06:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding edit comment by anon user

It was mentioned by anon user 24.210.83.241 that this revision had been accepted by the Wikipedia community. Let me make a summary, based on the edit history:

  • For the old revision: One anonymous user.
  • For the new revision: Myself, DreamGuy, Momusufan, The Random Editor, ReyBrujo, Jonathansfox (the list goes on...)

Marasmusine 07:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Various different users added those links over a period of time, and there was a long period of time (many months, from before January to April), where all those links (except for Galactrix) were up...and they were accepted by the Wikipedia community, as various different users worked with the article. It was all up...until Marasmusine started removing them in April. 65.189.162.231 19:10, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Various spammers and others adding links and others not paying much attention to it and letting it slide does not acceptance make. Now that some editors who look into these things have shown up (six or more, per the count above) the links are deleted as against policies here. One solitary anonynous user doesn't get to overrule everyone else. DreamGuy 20:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Since the anon user is ignoring concensus, apparently ignoring pointers to our WP:V, WP:EL and WP:NOT policies, and good faith cannot be assumed (do to his various personal attacks), I have temporarily semi-protected this article again. Marasmusine 17:58, 8 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The Wikipedia community was well aware of this article -- the article was even nominated for deletion, and the result was Keep. Sweet Winged One 21:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

We'd prefer not to have unverified material and spam. Rather than blindly reverting can you tell us specifically which entries you object to the removal of, and I'll tell you exactly why it was removed. Also, since you've brought up the deletion discussion, here are some comments made in it by the Wikipedia community:

  • Keep as long as the list is restricted to games made/sold under the Tetris brand
  • ...it does need cleanup.
  • ...if this is limited to games released officially related to Tetris, then it could become definitive and useful. At the moment, it's not either.
  • A cleanup is needed, in example, removing the Clones and unofficial variants completely
  • This article resulted from everybody plugging their own version in the main Tetris article. People still plug their version on that page though. I believe the best solution would be to shave it down to the most interesting and important games

And so on. Marasmusine 21:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup was done right after that, months before your action. Example of one of the cleanup edits: [[1]] And an example of one of the comments you DIDN'T list:
71.72.73.170 21:48, 21 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

A comment made by a new, anonymous, user unaware of these wikipedia policies. Hey, you know what, here's another cleanup: [2] Show me one item there that shouldn't have been removed per Wikipedia policies. Also explain why the six established editors mentioned above agree that the old revision is garbage, with only (one, I suspect) anonymous user defending it? Marasmusine 08:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

can this d added as a source? can't do it.... http://www.tetris1d.org/tetris.php 123abcdoreme3 (talk) 16:44, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done, thanks. Marasmusine (talk) 16:50, 17 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Unsourced

Under Tetris Splash: "First Xbox Live Arcade title for Tetris. It is also the first game produced by Henk Rogers' Tetris Company after Rogers bought the rights to Tetris." This to my knowledge is untrue. "The rights to Tetris" is extremely complicated, and cannot be summed up that way. Henk purchased the license to Tetris on some platforms in the eighties, then went on to further market the game, but this statement is just weird. If there's no source, it should be deleted, as it is very misleading/inappropriate. 68.222.12.37 01:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

why it is protected?

? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.166.169 (talk) 04:38, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

There has been quite a bit of spam in the past, with anon users listing all kinds of unnotable home-brew tetris variants. Is there something you would like to change or add? Or perhaps you could start an account. Marasmusine (talk) 09:57, 27 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

i have an account. --CRAZY SCIENTIST (talk) 17:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Crazy, I hope you don't mind me saying, but the game you are trying to list doesn't look particularly notable. Can you review WP:N? Marasmusine (talk) 20:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

[3], why it doesn't look notable? you know an other 3D clone that's better? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.26.184 (talk) 10:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Are we talking about Crystal Cubes? Can you point to any coverage other than a two sentence mention on someone's blog? Marasmusine (talk) 13:42, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

it's not 'someone's blog'. it's one of the most respected websites about game remakes. the developer posted here. also another respected site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.166.51 (talk) 04:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

So there should be something other than trivial mentions and forum posts. Please read WP:Notability for the kind of coverage it needs. I thought I would have a look myself; since we don't allow forum posts as sources, I did a google search for +"crystal cubes" +tetris -forum" but I can't see anything suitable in those 40 hits. Marasmusine (talk) 09:48, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Seconding request for unlocking. Very much would like to change the wording of the Tetris Splash entry. It's funky and unsourced. Tetris isn't locked, so this shouldn't be either. 74.241.120.70 (talk) 20:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article is now unlocked. Marasmusine (talk) 21:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

marasmusine, this clone is notable and i've read those. it doesn't say that we can never use sources like these. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.167.195 (talk) 02:54, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Two sentences on Retroremakes is not significant coverage, there's no sign that the website has editorial integrity, and it's not the preferred multiple sources. Do you have any other sources that show that Crystal Cubes might be notable? Marasmusine (talk) 08:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

retroremakes and gamedev are respected websites. it is the best 3D freeware clone that exists. that's why it's notable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.26.113 (talk) 11:51, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you'd care to read WP:Notability again, you'll see that "I think that it's really good." is not a criteria, and there's that whole "significant coverage" thing. Marasmusine (talk) 12:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

wtf is wrong with you? it is. i want to improve it and you say no. it's over. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.166.54 (talk) 03:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Why is the page protected again? Tetrisfan (talk) 04:28, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Long history of spamming by anonymous users. Is there a change/addition you would like to suggest? Marasmusine (talk) 08:12, 24 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I wonder if this variation of Tetris played on a go board is worth noting: http://chesstris.com/2007/10/03/play-go-tetris-10/#more-52 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.197.12 (talk) 20:32, 4 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think people are getting confused. WP:Notability specifically defines guidelines that "outline how suitable a topic is for its own article. They do not directly limit the content of articles". If this page was trying to be an encyclopedic list of tetris variants, then the criteria for inclusion in the list would be verifiability, not notability. However, as per the deletion discussion, this page ought to be restricted to official variants only. This would avoid all debate over what makes a clone "notable". AndrewBolt (talk) 08:03, 13 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Sex Tetris

There is a variant, that's very well known and popular and it's called Sex Tetris (1996), it's not yet added on the list. The variant I meant is at http://members.chello.at/theodor.lauppert/games/xtet.htm What do you recon guys ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.59.13.178 (talk) 12:29, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It will need to be verified by a reliable, independent source. If it's well known, perhaps it's had a mention in one of the 90s PC magazines. Marasmusine (talk) 18:40, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]